President Bush says he takes responsibility for the federal government's failures

[No Limit]

This is not a joke. Everyone is shocked, CNN has it on their breaking news flash:

http://www.cnn.com/

Looks like Karl Rove is playing the old JFK Bay of Pigs card. If this is true he needs to resign.

 

[CptStern]

now would be a good time to resign

 

[Icarusintel]

lemme guess... you guys are gonna find some kind of fault in this
i say good for him, any man that can admit his shortcomings, even if only a few deserves the kudos

 

[No Limit]

lemme guess... you guys are gonna find some kind of fault in this
i say good for him, any man that can admit his shortcomings, even if only a few deserves the kudos

If he is responsible for not getting aid to about half a million people in time and thousands dying because of it he needs to resign. Since he admitted he is responsible that is his only option. Don't get me wrong, if he actually resigned I would gain a lot of respect for him; if he doesn't this is just another political move in this game he is trying to play and he should be impeached.

 

[Solaris]

Hmm, when he resigns who would take his place.

I hope to god not arnold.

 

[CptStern]

Hmm, when he resigns who would take his place.

I hope to god not arnold.

far far worse: cheney

 

[Direwolf]

Good move.
I think a resignation wouldn't be a good thing, for the reasons Stern just pointed out, and an admission of guilt doesn't mean that he's just out and out giving up.

 

[Absinthe]

Bush actually gained some of my respect. Not a lot, mind you. Certainly not enough for me to think of him as an acceptable president.

 

[Cole]

Oh, I feel so touched.
Now when will he take full responsibility for pissing off more than half the world?

 

[No Limit]

Good move.
I think a resignation wouldn't be a good thing, for the reasons Stern just pointed out, and an admission of guilt doesn't mean that he's just out and out giving up.

Cheney, Bush, Delay, Frist, any right winger politician, its all the same; they all follow what Rove tells them to follow. The important thing is to vote democratic in 06 so these people have no more power and then throw them out in 08.

 

[Raziaar]

far far worse: cheney

That'll never happen. Nobody in my republican family likes Cheney, and i'm sure its the same for many.

 

[OCybrManO]

far far worse: cheney

I think of THIS every time I see Cheney.

OMG! It's the Chenguin!

I keep waiting for him to do that laugh...

 

[No Limit]

That'll never happen. Nobody in my republican family likes Cheney, and i'm sure its the same for many.

Cheney is VP, he would automatically be president if Bush resigned. However, like I said, it wouldn't matter. They all are the exact same working under one machine.

 

[Raziaar]

Cheney is VP, he would automatically be president if Bush resigned. However, like I said, it wouldn't matter. They all are the exact same working under one machine.

LoL. They are 'not' the same. Cheney is an evil, evil bastard. I would consider bush more of a puppet than an evil co-conspirator.

 

[CptStern]

Cheney is VP, he would automatically be president if Bush resigned. However, like I said, it wouldn't matter. They all are the exact same working under one machine.

yes but I suspect it's Cheney's who's pulling the strings ..I mean look at this pic ...tell me he's not thinking "stick to the script you half-wit"

 

[The Monkey]

Who would become vice-president if Bush resigned and Cheney became president?

 

[Ikerous]

speaker of the house? or would he choose one? :/
But if the speaker moves up.. someone has to take his place and so on
So wouldn't he just pick a new one?

 

[OCybrManO]

The line of succession is currently:

1. Vice President
2. Speaker of the House
3. President Pro Tempore of the Senate
4. Secretary of State
5. Secretary of the Treasury
6. Secretary of Defense
7. Attorney General
8. Secretary of the Interior
9. Secretary of Agriculture
10. Secretary of Commerce
11. Secretary of Labor
12. Secretary of Health and Human Services
13. Secretary of Housing and Urban Development
14. Secretary of Transportation
15. Secretary of Energy
16. Secretary of Education
17. Secretary of Veterans Affairs

Spoiler

GOOGLE FTW!

 

[CptStern]

hmmm it's not likely there's going to be a plane crash with 17 casualties is there?

 

[OCybrManO]

hmmm it's not likely there's going to be a plane crash with 17 casualties is there?

We can only hope... I mean... I... uh... politicians are nice people. :angel: Move along, FBI... nothing to see here!

 

[Icarusintel]

it's really funny how you all want Bush to resign... so you get Cheney as President... maybe you should realize it's at least a bit better with him in office... I mean, even as a conservative Republican I'm still not too fond of Cheney, Bush is the better alternative

 

[No Limit]

LoL. They are 'not' the same. Cheney is an evil, evil bastard. I would consider bush more of a puppet than an evil co-conspirator.

But again, you are just looking at personal character. I agree, Cheney I don't think should even be considered human. But my point is the Republicans all have the same agenda. It all starts with Karl Rove and other political advisors in the background. Then the information spreads to talking heads like Rush and Hannity then every Republican idiot that can't think for themselves (not all Republicans do that, just most) repeat it. Bush, Cheney, whatever, they are all just symbols ran by the same machine. Nothing will change if another republican is elected in 08; you will see the same exact policies and the country will continue to go down the same shitty path it is on now.

Can any republican on this board (if you guys come out of your hiding for a second) show me any republican leader that has a different position than Bush on important issues facing this country? These would include abortion, Iraq, taxes, deficit spending, etc...

 

[satch919]

Good. It's about time this administration takes responsibility for their actions. However, this doesn't redeem Bush of any wrong doing in the past. I still don't like him or those he surrounds himself with.

 

[No Limit]

Good. It's about time this administration takes responsibility for their actions. However, this doesn't redeem Bush of any wrong doing in the past. I still don't like him or those he surrounds himself with.

The problem with this is yes, he said he takes responsibility. But what the hell does that mean if you don't fire anyone, you continually try to blame local officials, and you will not say what you did wrong. This is just him finally figuring out that pretending he has never made mistakes didn't work for his poll numbers so this might. In the end nothing will change for the better.

 

[Raziaar]

But again, you are just looking at personal character. I agree, Cheney I don't think should even be considered human. But my point is the Republicans all have the same agenda. It all starts with Karl Rove and other political advisors in the background. Then the information spreads to talking heads like Rush and Hannity then every Republican idiot that can't think for themselves (not all Republicans do that, just most) repeat it. Bush, Cheney, whatever, they are all just symbols ran by the same machine. Nothing will change if another republican is elected in 08; you will see the same exact policies and the country will continue to go down the same shitty path it is on now.

Can any republican on this board (if you guys come out of your hiding for a second) show me any republican leader that has a different position than Bush on important issues facing this country? These would include abortion, Iraq, taxes, deficit spending, etc...

Do you bathe yourself with your dogma? Cause you reek of it. I don't think there'll ever be a day in your life when you view people as human beings, rather than as either democratic or republican.

You're so mired in whether a person is a republican or democrat or not, you're blind to the qualities of that individual, and just how great of things they can accomplish. For example... FDR was a democrat, but I think he was an amazing president. I don't automatically dismiss him because he was a democrat, like you seem to do with republicans.

 

[No Limit]

Do you bathe yourself with your dogma? Cause you reek of it. I don't think there'll ever be a day in your life when you view people as human beings, rather than as either democratic or republican.

You're so mired in whether a person is a republican or democrat or not, you're blind to the qualities of that individual, and just how great of things they can accomplish. For example... FDR was a democrat, but I think he was an amazing president. I don't automatically dismiss him because he was a democrat, like you seem to do with republicans.

Like I seem to do? You know nothing about me and it is clear you haven't been paying any attention at all.

I'll go ahead and humor you. What great things has Bush accomplished in the last 5 years that you would like me to point out?

 

[Raziaar]

Like I seem to do? You know nothing about me and it is clear you haven't been paying any attention at all.

I'll go ahead and humor you. What great things has Bush accomplished in the last 5 years that you would like me to point out?

I'm not talking about bush here man. I'm talking about your comments that if another republican was put into the white house, nothing would change. You're thinking in black and white here. Things are not black and white... I just wish you weren't so thick headed to see that. There can no doubt be fantastic leaders that come from the democratic side of the political spectrum. Same can be said for the Republican side.

 

[No Limit]

I'm not talking about bush here man. I'm talking about your comments that if another republican was put into the white house, nothing would change. You're thinking in black and white here. Things are not black and white... I just wish you weren't so thick headed to see that. There can no doubt be fantastic leaders that come from the democratic side of the political spectrum. Same can be said for the Republican side.

You say this without any back up. I am saying that the majority of republicans are the same and I asked you to provide examples that prove otherwise. You didn't give me any examples, you attacked me, and said I was wrong but couldn't prove it. So I'll try again, give me an example of any republican leader that has prospects to be president in 08 ever criticising Bush's policies. They are all exactly the same.

EDIT:

One more point I forgot. I mentioned Bush because you seem to think that I have a vendetta against any republican. This is total bullshit you pulled out of your ass. When I talk about Republicans I attack their policies, not the actual character of the person (unless that person is a total ass). Every person I work with is a Republican. That doesn't mean I come in to work every day pissed off ready to take them on; usually we never even mention politics and many times I'll go grab a beer with them after work. This is a political board where I share my political views; if you don't like it I have no idea why you continue to post here.

 

[Raziaar]

You say this without any back up. I am saying that the majority of republicans are the same and I asked you to provide examples that prove otherwise. You didn't give me any examples, you attacked me, and said I was wrong but couldn't prove it. So I'll try again, give me an example of any republican leader that has prospects to be president in 08 ever criticising Bush's policies. They are all exactly the same.

EDIT:

One more point I forgot. I mentioned Bush because you seem to think that I have a vendetta against any republican. This is total bullshit you pulled out of your ass. When I talk about Republicans I attack their policies, not the actual character of the person (unless that person is a total ass). Every person I work with is a Republican. That doesn't mean I come in to work every day pissed off ready to take them on; usually we never even mention politics and many times I'll go grab a beer with them after work. This is a political board where I share my political views; if you don't like it I have no idea why you continue to post here.

I dunno. I think your threads about how "republicans are lying scum shit" speak for themselves. <chuckles> And you're right. I don't know why I continue to post here. I hate politics. I'm just addicted to reading your bull, I suppose.

 

[No Limit]

I dunno. I think your threads about how "republicans are lying scum shit" speak for themselves. <chuckles> And you're right. I don't know why I continue to post here. I hate politics. I'm just addicted to reading your bull, I suppose.

There we go, another irrelevent post from Raziaar. I stand by my statement in that thread I made but this has nothing to do with anything. I am asking you to backup what you said about me and how I was wrong, yet you can't. So please, keep it to yourself next time.

Well you did get one fact right, you simply dunno.

 

[Tr0n]

Dick Cheney has a big one. :O

 

[gh0st]

every out of character for him to do that. i dont think he had to, but i'm glad he can take blame for something that went wrong.

 

[baxter]

If you were a real sceptic you could see it as a form of desperation.
If you are boxed into a corner and everything is falling down all around you, what better way to rally the faithful, admit you were wrong, show everybody what kind of upstanding character you are. After all who could possibly find fault with somebody who openly admits they made a mistake?
Of course only a real sceptic would look at it this way.

 

[Mechagodzilla]

I agree with whoever said that an apology is admirable but not enough. Admitting that you have a problem is only the first step, as they say.

I'll respect the guy once I see some actual changes. 'Till then it's all talk.

 

[No Limit]

I agree with whoever said that an apology is admirable but not enough. Admitting that you have a problem is only the first step, as they say.

I'll respect the guy once I see some actual changes. 'Till then it's all talk.

But again, taking this admission of responsibility seriously is missing the point entirely. How many times has this president made mistakes? Lets just count a few.

9/11 HUGE mistake #1, he was warned of Osama using planes to attack the US 1 month before it happened. He stayed on his vacation and didn't think twice about the warning. Nobody was fired eventhough he blamed our intelligence and he never admitted he made a mistake when he ignored the warning.

Iraq war, HUGE mistake #2. Everything Bush does wrong he blames on intelligence. Instead of people getting fired and him asking for reform he gives promotions to his top aids that promoted the Iraq were and were dead wrong.

Remember, up to this point he claims he has never made a single mistake.

Katrina, HUGE mistake #3. After being put in a corner he can't get out of he finally says I take responsibility 2 weeks after the fact because his political advisors saw this as his only move. Yeah, Mr. President, you have an admirable character. :dozey:

It should never be a breaking news alert simply because the president finally admits his mistake.

 

[Korgoth]

well it seems to be working just like he had hoped:

"Aww bushy, you've made so many mistakes and just lied them away, but this one you owned up to! We'll forget the mistakes themselves and focus on how great of you it was to admit fault... forget actually doing a ****ing thing about it"

 

[Direwolf]

hmmm it's not likely there's going to be a plane crash with 17 casualties is there?

Awww...what do you have against the secretary of Veterans Affairs?

 

[CptStern]

Awww...what do you have against the secretary of Veterans Affairs?

nothing, but we cant have him becoming president ...anybody but him :O

 

[Lemonking]

and we all know If he resigns all problems would disapear

 

[CptStern]

it's about accountability lemonking ..bush is a puppet, the neo-cons would still be in charge