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im thinkin of updatin for HL2 umm.... i got 512 ddr ram, GeForce5600, and 1.67ghz :\ Im gonna get some more ghz but i dunno wut i should get. Heres a list of processors http://www.laumar.com/inventory.htm#PROCESSORS

My questions are:
-wut the hell is FSB,
-wuts 640k and .13m,
-wuts barton and boxed,
-and xp2800 for amd means 2.8ghz??,
-and y are amd's cheaper :\
Someone answer these questions for this noob (me) lol

I just wanna be able to play HL2 with everything on high :\ with 1.67ghz i think im gonna have looow fps..... when i played the DOOM III demo my fps was about 3 sometimes when i was near a monster. Im thinking about 2.8 would do the trick
 
-wut the hell is FSB
FSB= Front Side Bus
-wuts 640k and .13m
I don't know what 640k means, but .13(micron, not meters!) referese to the size of the pcb board and the materials used.
-wuts barton and boxed,
Barton is a core of an AMF processor, boxed means the processors comes in a box, and not OEM which is usally a little bag.
-and xp2800 for amd means 2.8ghz??,
No, it means it's supposed to be equivilent to a 2.8Ghz p4, but intel; is usally faster.
 
Originally posted by SidewinderX143
-and xp2800 for amd means 2.8ghz??,
No, it means it's supposed to be equivilent to a 2.8Ghz p4, but intel; is usally faster.
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I thought it was the opposite, AMD was faster than "intel eqvivalent" rating... I know according to tests the 2400+ is faster than the 2.5ghz. Maybe that's not true for the newest generation though, havent really checked it.
 
640k is the combined cache of the L1 and L2 caches on new CPUs. BTW upping your proc. wont do much, your vid card would be a bottleneck.
 
Originally posted by SidewinderX143
-wut the hell is FSB
FSB= Front Side Bus
-wuts 640k and .13m
I don't know what 640k means, but .13(micron, not meters!) referese to the size of the pcb board and the materials used.
-wuts barton and boxed,
Barton is a core of an AMF processor, boxed means the processors comes in a box, and not OEM which is usally a little bag.
-and xp2800 for amd means 2.8ghz??,
No, it means it's supposed to be equivilent to a 2.8Ghz p4, but intel; is usally faster.
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.13 micron has nothing to do with the PCB actually, it refers to the silicon chip itself (the core, the little chip in the center of the board under the heatsink/fan), which is then attached to the PCB along with all the ic's and thus becomes a videocard.

and in actuality amd's rating system isnt meant to compare to intel cpu's, it even says on amd's site that the ratings are meant to compare to the original athlon cpu's, meaning an athlon xp 2800+ is equivelant performance to an athlon 2800 Mhz, even though the xp 2800 run at a lower clockspeed.
 
well put xtasy

chris listen to this guy
 
well i just noticed i actually have a amd athlon xp2000+ and i only have 1666mhz y is this :(
 
Its made to compete with intel "equivelants". AMD XPs have lower Mhz, but a higher frequency. A 2000+ XP should outdo a P4 2.0ghz
 
lol the only people who should be worry some about cpu's are the ppl who have below 1.5 or 1500+
 
http://www.bulldogdigital.com/faqs.html
"What is a Front Side Bus?
The best explanation is this. Imagine the computer as an automobile. The CPU is the engine and the RAM is the drive wheels. In an automobile, we transfer that power from the engine to the drive wheels using a "Drive Shaft". In the computer world we use a Front Side Bus. The Faster the Front Side Bus (the larger the number), the faster the computer will run."
This makes me think that FBS is what makes the copmuter run faster.. not the mhz :\ im confused

by the way my amd athlon xp2000+ only has 1666mhz and 133FSB wut the? i now know im going with a intel 2.4 with 800fsb or intel 2.6 with 533fsb
 
well, a high fsb won't make a slow CPU faster (I guess). It still comes down to the CPU, but the FSB determains how fast the data transfer from and to the CPU is. if you have a fast CPU, but slow FSB, that can slow down the overall performance. Correct me if I'm wrong.
 
In lamen terms, the higher the FSB the better. If I were you I would get a P4 2.4c with 800mhz FSB and HTT. With those cards people with good Heatsink/fan can get them to do 3.5ghz. With the right motherboard and ram of course. If you are tight on cash, I suggest getting a 2500 barton. Very good for the price.
 
gj...lets just say one product's advantage but not the others. lame
 
Originally posted by chris_3
im thinkin of updatin for HL2 umm.... i got 512 ddr ram, GeForce5600, and 1.67ghz :\ Im gonna get some more ghz but i dunno wut i should get. Heres a list of processors http://www.laumar.com/inventory.htm#PROCESSORS

My questions are:
-wut the hell is FSB,
-wuts 640k and .13m,
-wuts barton and boxed,
-and xp2800 for amd means 2.8ghz??,
-and y are amd's cheaper :\
Someone answer these questions for this noob (me) lol

I just wanna be able to play HL2 with everything on high :\ with 1.67ghz i think im gonna have looow fps..... when i played the DOOM III demo my fps was about 3 sometimes when i was near a monster. Im thinking about 2.8 would do the trick
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FSB = front side bus
640k i is the size of the L1 and L2 cache on a barton core put togehter.
i dont understand the 3rd question.
xp2800 is The pr rateing assigned to that cpu by amd. Because amd chips run so much faster at a lower clock rate it would be impossible to sell them other wise.
Amd chips are cheaper because they arent as big as intel and can't afford it rip people off.

Best amd cpu to get is the 2500+.
 
Amen to that, im getting one, gonna OC it to 3000+
 
Originally posted by dawdler
I thought it was the opposite, AMD was faster than "intel eqvivalent" rating... I know according to tests the 2400+ is faster than the 2.5ghz. Maybe that's not true for the newest generation though, havent really checked it.
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with the newer 800fsb chips.....it is most definatly not true.
 
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