Prop 71: Stem Cell Research (School Project)

Do you support stem cell research?

  • Yes; I am for it.

    Votes: 32 86.5%
  • No; I am against it.

    Votes: 5 13.5%

  • Total voters
    37

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I'm doing a project for school about proposition 71 which is about stem cell research. I want your guys opinions about it and if you are for it or against it. Just vote yes you are for it or no you are against it in the poll. Give your opinions if you want too. I'm going to type out some information from the "Voter Information Guide" to provide more information.

Stem Cell Research

Summary
This measure establishes "California for Regenerative Medicine" to regulate and fund stem cell research, constitutional right to conduct such research, and oversight committee. Prohibits funding of human reproductive cloning research. Fiscal Impace: State cost of about $6 billion over 30 years to pay off both the principal ($3 billion) and interest ($3 billion) on the bonds. State payment averaging about $200 million per year.

What Your Vote Means
Yes
A YES vote on this measure means: The state would establish a new state medical research institute and authorize the issuance of $3 billion in state general obligation bonds to provide funding for stem cell research and research facilities in California.

No
A NO vote on this measure means: Funding for stem cell research in California would depend upon actions by the Legislature and Governer and other entities which provide research funding.

Arguments
Pro
71 Authorizes stem cell research to find new cures for cancer, heart disease, diabetes, and many other diseases, save millions of lives, and cut health care costs by billions. And, 71 prohibits cloning to create babies. Join non-profit disease organizations, Nobel Prize scientists, doctors, and nurses: Vote YES on 71.

Con
Add $3 billionof bond debt to California's massive debt load. Money would fund huge, new bureaurcracy to promote human embryo cloning. Few controls, no real account ability for how money is spent. Exempts new bureaucracy from aspects of "open meeting" laws. Opposed by women's groups, leading doctors, and medical ethnicists.


That's it. Just vote on the poll and give your opinion. And please, no flaming.
 
All the way for it. But , of course, I'm not californian, even America.
 
Just to let you know, the poll will not be very accurate because you do not distinguish between different types of stem cell research. For example there is adult spinal cord stem cell research and then there is embyonic stem cell research. Most people opposing stem cell research are against the use of embyos on the idea that life begins at conception, but often they are not opposed to the use of adult stem cells.

Perhaps you could explain just what exactly Proposition 71 entails?
 
its wrong, its the first step to genetically modified humans. doctors shoudlnt play god.
 
CTTcrew_MrBlue said:
its wrong, its the first step to genetically modified humans. doctors shoudlnt play god.

I think you're a bit confused about just what stem cell research is. Stem cell research examines stem cells which are able to grow into other types of cells. It is hoped that these may be used to repair or replace cells in the human body that have died or been damaged among other things. For example, with stem cells you might be able to grow new brain cells meaning a possible treatment for diseases which affect the brain. Or you could perhaps grow new nerve cells to treat spinal cord injuries. They can also be used in the treatment of some cancers.

The research is not about genetic engineering. Stem cells and stem cell research have nothing to do with modifying the human genome. I would recommend you read this as it's a good summary of all the aspects of stem cells and their potential: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stem_cell_research

Please learn a bit about it before condemning it.
 
CTTcrew_MrBlue said:
its wrong, its the first step to genetically modified humans. doctors shoudlnt play god.

1 vote for ignorance.
 
I don't have a problem with it. I'd rather them not use embryos though (They don't have to anymore either...so I guess my opinion doesn't really count anymore :p)
 
Farrowlesparrow said:
I don't have a problem with it. I'd rather them not use embryos though (They don't have to anymore either...so I guess my opinion doesn't really count anymore :p)

Well, they don't absolutely have to. But there are many in the field who think embyonic stem cell research is more viable than other kinds as embyonic stem cells can turn into any type of cell in the body and are thus not as limited as other types. Of course other's disagree. I don't think enough is currently known to really determine what the true difference is, with respect to the medical potentials.

Another point about embyonic stem cell research though, is that it is not actually necessary to obtain more embyos. There are already many that are frozen. They would either remain frozen or eventually be thrown out if nothing is done with them, which would be a great waste in my opinion.
 
I say standardize us. Make us all clones!!!

No, really, individuality is good. But this has nothing to do with it. the UK has banned human cloning but they allow this. Because it's good for mankind.
 
I dont care, tbh if they cloned id be for it. I never see any negatives of such research people are just whiney
 
Is this embrionic stem cell research? If so, them yes I'am against that. Other forms of stem cell research are gg.
 
Fat Tony! said:
I dont care, tbh if they cloned id be for it. I never see any negatives of such research people are just whiney


Heres the problem for us folks who believe in God. If you artificially create a person, does he have a soul? I think it would be ok to clone, if did it the way they did in Star Wars episode 2. IE taking away indivuality. Basically making them non-human,
 
Death.Trap said:
Heres the problem for us folks who believe in God. If you artificially create a person, does he have a soul? I think it would be ok to clone, if did it the way they did in Star Wars episode 2. IE taking away indivuality. Basically making them non-human,

Yes, clones have a soul. The sooner they clone someone, the sooner they prove that to you.

Actually making an artifical human would be better. That is, a human with every single gene chosen by machines.
 
I am for stem cell research. All you religious naysayers can take your comments elsewhere, when you have a family stricken by diabetes you might see things different.
 
Ghost Freeman said:
I am for stem cell research. All you religious naysayers can take your comments elsewhere, when you have a family stricken by diabetes you might see things different.


The only reason any religious people have a problem with stem cell research is if it involves embrionic tissues. Use embrionic tissues and you create a demand for aborted babies. And yes, I believe that's a bad thing. As for stem cell research that doesn't involve embrionic tissues, then I'm all for it.
 
Ghost Freeman said:
I am for stem cell research. All you religious naysayers can take your comments elsewhere, when you have a family stricken by diabetes you might see things different.

Actually this forum is for all who wish to use it.

My family is in the same boat with you but they are still strictly against certain ways of obtaining steam cells.
 
Death.Trap said:
The only reason any religious people have a problem with stem cell research is if it involves embrionic tissues. Use embrionic tissues and you create a demand for aborted babies. And yes, I believe that's a bad thing. As for stem cell research that doesn't involve embrionic tissues, then I'm all for it.

Couldnt have said it better myself.
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Thanks for voting and giving your opinion guys. If anyone else can also vote and comment I would really appreciate it. I want to try and get a bit more people if I can. Thanks.
 
S**tty poll.

Many people differentiate between stem cell research done with adult stem cells and stem cell research done with human embryos.

Close thread. Restart with proper poll.

Also, include, a "no opinion" option.
 
I'm for it. Maybe then they'll have better luck trying to find a cure for my bone disease, but that wont happen during my lifetime
 
Death.Trap said:
The only reason any religious people have a problem with stem cell research is if it involves embrionic tissues. Use embrionic tissues and you create a demand for aborted babies. And yes, I believe that's a bad thing. As for stem cell research that doesn't involve embrionic tissues, then I'm all for it.

That's great and all, except your basing your opinion on a false premise I think. The research is not going to create a "demand for aborted babies."

First of all there is a reason they call them embryonic cell lines. Once you have one embryo you can continue to produce more stem cells from that line. It's not like you just obtain a few stem cells and then have to have another embryo as you seem to be implying.

Furthermore, there is also this to think about:

stem cell research uses discarded embryos and that fertility clinics that routinely destroy thousands of embryos are not controversial at all
 
Heres the problem for us folks who believe in God. If you artificially create a person, does he have a soul? I think it would be ok to clone, if did it the way they did in Star Wars episode 2. IE taking away indivuality. Basically making them non-human,
AHah I get it now, if you clone someone and they clearly are normal in everyway technically they dont have a "soul" therefore it proves the whole religion idea wrong and people dont want to be told that their ideals that they have held for all their lives is just a load of crap. You know im right. Or you can go by what sprafa says and that they will have a sould if they are cloned, but then there is no problem. And again like sprafa says being an artificial human a super human may be quite good. But then you have to think about it from a different view, if this occurs then would that mean that the whole meaning of life or whatever would not apply to you? You exist as a success of science? I can see some problems there however in that case what about cloning sheep? Or the fact that bacteria multiply themselves by cloning? Does that mean that they are unworthy or lesser?
 
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