Public Smoking Ban in the Uk

[Razor]

Britain has recently banned smoking in any public place that serves food, going against what the British public want and against what's happening in Scotland and Ireland who have gone for a full ban.

The huge majority of British people want a full blanket ban covering all public places, whether they serve food or not, as they are sick of breathing in all the smoke of these disgusting, ill smokers.

What are your opinions on it, should Tony Blair go along with what the Scottish and Irish governments are doing and agreeing with the huge majority of British people and ban smoking in all public places, just ban it where they serve food and do you want it staying how it was?

edit: and if this isn't a leading political comment, i don't know what is .

 

[Sulkdodds]

If passive smoking is as dangerous as it's made out to be then yes, there should be a full public ban. People shouldn't have the right to kill eachother's brain cells just by walking past them.

 

[Kangy]

Even if it isn't as dangerous as it's made out to be, it's still the equivalent for me of somebody being both hugely disgusting and rude to me at the same time. The whole "there's no solid proof" bullshit argument about passive smoking doesn't work, because it's still goddamned unpleasant for the non-smoking majority.

 

[Absinthe]

I am a smoker and enjoy the thought of killing others.

I'll be honest. I want to smoke wherever I want for my own selfish purposes. **** everybody else.

But since that's not gonna happen... what's wrong with smoking sections and non-smoking sections?

 

[Razor]

I am a smoker and enjoy the thought of killing others.

I'll be honest. I want to smoke wherever I want for my own selfish purposes. **** everybody else.

But since that's not gonna happen... what's wrong with smoking sections and non-smoking sections?

Because there are non-smoking waiters and barstaff that have to go near vile people like you.

 

[Absinthe]

It'll put some hair on their lungs.

 

[The Monkey]

We did the same in Sweden six months ago, and it works out fine. The smokers can smoke in a designated, isolated room inside the bar.

 

[DeusExMachina]

Smokers should be sent to detainment camps .

Nah, I'm joshing ya. A simple designated room for them is fine. As long as they keep it away from everyone else.

 

[jondy]

Partial ban at least. I'm sick of playing gigs in pubs and coming back smelling shit. It's ****in' disgusting.

 

[Ren.182]

I can't stand smoking. Smells horrible. Tastes Horrible and it just fills your lungs with tar. Lovely.

I'd rather not breathe in everyone elses smoke.

 

[Link]

If passive smoking is as dangerous as it's made out to be then yes, there should be a full public ban. People shouldn't have the right to kill eachother's brain cells just by walking past them.

Why is big brother, and all variants of, allowed then?


Edit - Razor, either you are trying to get an accurate representation of what people think, or you are trying to make a point in an elaborate way as possible. If its the first one, change option 4. I do smoke, and I do not think the ban is required, just have smoking and non-smoking areas. I tend to try not to smoke all over non smokers, however, if I am at the pub, either live with it, or sit in the non smoking section.

 

[DeusExMachina]

Everyone knows smokers are immoral, baby raping communists.

 

[Absinthe]

Everyone knows smokers are immoral, baby raping communists.

*Ahem* I myself am a fascist, good sir.

Any way, like Link said. A full ban is not required. At least not if that means depriving me of the pub when I want to smoke.

Honestly, how is it even possible to have a pub without smoke? Doesn't that go against some natural way of life? In Ireland, no less?

ADDED: And why this bias? Why isn't there an option "I am a non-smoker and enjoy the thought of killing others". Because, y'know, I think that demographic exists.

 

[ComradeBadger]

I'm a non-smoker and think things are fine as they are

I honestly don't care that much.. :|

Bad as it sounds.

 

[Mutley]

I think the Government should put 200% taxes on all tobacco products... or some stupidly high cost rather than a public ban.

Other wise I strongly agree, a public ban is needed.

 

[lister]

I can't stand smoking. Smells horrible. Tastes Horrible and it just fills your lungs with tar. Lovely.

I'd rather not breathe in everyone elses smoke.

but u still breath in the lovely oxygen floating around our towns & cities, well done.

 

[lister]

public bans are not required, we have been snoking in all places far to long to now start bitching about it, if u dont like the smell ---- off sum where else. In a pub its not always smokey, there is usally a smoking/non smoking section anyways. Lets now do a full UK ban on oil & maybe vehicle fumes, yeh this stuff also friggin gets onto ur lungs & everybody bloody breaths it in.

 

[Link]

I think the Government should put 200% taxes on all tobacco products... or some stupidly high cost rather than a public ban.

Other wise I strongly agree, a public ban is needed.

What is this thing with taxing bad stuff? If it is bad enough to stop people doing it, then fine, ban it, but don't turn it into a reserve of the rich. Then you have people pissed off that people smoke, as well as poorer people who want to smoke pissed off that they can't afford to.

Anyawy, wouldn't work, people would just start going abroad for them

 

[SAJ]

Just gave up smoking yesterday, so I want to kill everyone, regardless of full/partial ban.
In all honesty I was in favour of a full ban for a longtime, I dont think theres any excuse for inflicting your deadly habits on anyone .

 

[StardogChampion]

Full public ban.

 

[Llama]

I hate smokers. Simply because to smoke is to throw away both your common sense and your health. I'd love a public ban, but it won't happen :frown:

 

[Razor]

Why is big brother, and all variants of, allowed then?


Edit - Razor, either you are trying to get an accurate representation of what people think, or you are trying to make a point in an elaborate way as possible. If its the first one, change option 4. I do smoke, and I do not think the ban is required, just have smoking and non-smoking areas. I tend to try not to smoke all over non smokers, however, if I am at the pub, either live with it, or sit in the non smoking section.

What do you say to all the members of staff though who have to serve you, they're non-smokers and shouldn't be required to seriously harm themselves just so you can smoke infront of others.

Hopefully, Tony Blair goes along with what all the other countries are doing and what the British public wants and incites a full ban and not this utter rubbish ban.

 

[short recoil]

I personally hate smoking, if people want to smoke that's fine but they shouldn't recieve any medical help for the problems caused by their choice.
They should smoke where people welcome them to smoke, if anyone smokes near me i use the classic "do you wanna put that out before i put you out" line.
Shouldn't stop people doing something as long as its not affecting others.
Smoke only in smoke friendly places or away from other people.

 

[X-FacToR]

Smoking ban just passed in Washington state allong with Oregon state, being a ex smoker that makes it awesome news.

 

[gh0st]

recently in the state i live in there was a public smoking ban, as x-factor pointed out. as i work in retail and often have to come outside and look around i used to hate it as there were smokers all about the entrances and now there are none and its GREAT. one of the best pieces of law our we've passed.

i for one will not shed a tear when poor smokers cant suck ash in their favorite bar here. there should be exceptions though, like hooka bars you know . but in general, public restaurants, bowling allys, stores etc should not have smokers near them.

 

[JNightshade]

^Agreed.

 

[Absinthe]

No worries. We'll rise up and ****ing gut and rape your mothers.

 

[gh0st]

No worries. We'll rise up and ****ing gut and rape your mothers.

probably, youre already gutting and raping your health which, of course ends up costing joe taxpayer some of his money.

of course i say this as i eat my 2nd taco bell chalupa.

 

[Ren.182]

but u still breath in the lovely oxygen floating around our towns & cities, well done.

I have to breathe something. And our cities aren't really that badly polluted comapred to some American cities. Plus I live fairly close to the country so my air aint too bad.
But whenever i go into Birmingham i hate walking through the crowds because all you can smell is smoke and its really not that nice...

 

[lister]

I personally hate smoking, if people want to smoke that's fine but they shouldn't recieve any medical help for the problems caused by their choice.

& if this was the case we shud not have to bloody pay for the NHS then shud we? Also its like fat people, if they cant help themselves but be fat, do they also get removed from the list?

 

[Ren.182]

If people cant help being obese... like a medical condition, then i don't think they should be "excluded" from the list.
But people who damage their own bodies should not get medical help before those who didn't do the damage to their bodies on purpose.
For example, George Best. He got a new liver, then he just went out drinking again. I'm sure some other poor person would have put that liver to good use and looked after themselves...

 

[short recoil]

& if this was the case we shud not have to bloody pay for the NHS then shud we? Also its like fat people, if they cant help themselves but be fat, do they also get removed from the list?

Well the fact is we all pay tax, people who smoke, are fat or generally unhealthy will use more of the NHS's money.
I pay tax yet i don't think i have ever used a hospital, i may do one day but it is unlikely to be due to something purposely self inflicted.

Smoking is obviously not good for you.......i mean if i kept taking mercury supplements continously i'm sure the NHS wouldn't like to treat me continously for mercury poisoning.
Fat people who are fat because they can't help themselves are an extremely rare occurance, people like to use it as an excuse.
It's our own duty to look after our health, i hate people with the attitude "oh i'll eat all the shit i want and smoke because the doctors will help me"
Those who can't be assed to look after themselves do not deserve the help of others, those who cannot help themselves need the help of those who CARE.

Sorry for my right wing views, this is natural for someone who is superior, i don't like carrying the weight of those below me.

 

[Flyingdebris]

I have no problem with smokers. Nor am i one of those people who believe that just passively smelling cig smoke in the air will give you the cancer.

Way i see it, if you are going to smoke and ruin yourself, you might as well be able to enjoy yourself without some uppity know it all marching up to you and give you the same tired old lines about smoking in a holier than thou manner.

 

[ة الأسئلة الشائع]

I dont think they need a full ban if the public places if you did not have to walk through the somking section to get to non-smoking!

 

[OvA]

I have asthma and just about choke when I enter a smoky room. Ban pls.

 

[OvA]

Well the fact is we all pay tax, people who smoke, are fat or generally unhealthy will use more of the NHS's money.
I pay tax yet i don't think i have ever used a hospital, i may do one day but it is unlikely to be due to something purposely self inflicted.

Smoking is obviously not good for you.......i mean if i kept taking mercury supplements continously i'm sure the NHS wouldn't like to treat me continously for mercury poisoning.
Fat people who are fat because they can't help themselves are an extremely rare occurance, people like to use it as an excuse.
It's our own duty to look after our health, i hate people with the attitude "oh i'll eat all the shit i want and smoke because the doctors will help me"
Those who can't be assed to look after themselves do not deserve the help of others, those who cannot help themselves need the help of those who CARE.

Sorry for my right wing views, this is natural for someone who is superior, i don't like carrying the weight of those below me.

Quoted for truth and sigged for short recoil attitude

EDIT: crap double post D:

 

[Dekstar]

Non-smoker, and I don't expect to start in my lifetime.

Ban, ban, ban. Short Recoil put it Perfectly.

 

[gh0st]

I have no problem with smokers. Nor am i one of those people who believe that just passively smelling cig smoke in the air will give you the cancer.

"passively"? "smelling"? uh you mean inhaling carbon monoxide and 100s of other poisons and chemicals from some other douchebags lungs? sorry that does cause cancer, just like breathing in car exthaust will cause all sorts of respiratory problems.

Way i see it, if you are going to smoke and ruin yourself, you might as well be able to enjoy yourself without some uppity know it all marching up to you and give you the same tired old lines about smoking in a holier than thou manner.

actually its more self defense. its your right to smoke, but it isnt your right to blow it in other peoples faces and cause health problems for others. in case you didnt know, second hand smoke IS bad for you.

 

[Dr. Freeman]

i am a non-smoker and have no problems with full public bans on smoking
hey...its not good for people and something that can be avoided so..um.. a public ban should help in the long run i hope.

 

[Shasta]

I am a smoker, and until recently was a DJ / Manager at a local Niteculb. ( I live in NZ). One year ago, our government took it upon themselves to introduce a smoking ban in all workplaces (except hospitals????!!!!!), WITHOUT any public consultation, voting, polls, or anything. Who the hell are these people to decide things for everyone, without asking the people they represent? There is no option to have "seperate ventilated areas", so everyone must go outside to smoke, be it in a niteclub, office or restaraunt. There are many problems with this, like many people getting sick from smoking outside in winter, huge loss of business in niteclubs, (and it turns out the smoke smell was covering the smell of sweat and spew in most bars, so they actually smell worse), all done without asking anyone, or trying to find a compromise.

If there had been a public vote called for, and as a nation we had decided this, I could live with that. But we didn't.

We already have about 200% tax on tobbacco by the way. Smokes are not cheap here.