Remember Me - Memorial Day Tribute

[MRG]

Greetings all,

I would like to wish everyone here a "Happy" if not somber Memorial Day.

Regardless of how you feel about the United States of America or my countries political policies, please keep our soldiers in your prayers. The same goes for all of you here that live outside our borders. For each & every country has lost loved ones who have given the ultimate sacrifice for their country, in the name of Peace.

I leave you with this Video.
http://www.break.com/index/remember-me.html

-MRG

 

[Polaris]

In my prayers? Pray for them? Too bad that I never pray. I'm sure that many of those soldiers in desert far away doesn't need our prayers. There are atheists in foxholes.

I like many things in USA and I really honour American soldiers who fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan, and I think and care about them. I'm not sure if soldiers in Iraq now really fighting and dying for something, for their people or it's all just because of politics.

 

[Dan]

memorial day???

 

[MRG]

In my prayers? Pray for them? Too bad that I never pray. I'm sure that many of those soldiers in desert far away doesn't need our prayers. There are atheists in foxholes.

I like many things in USA and I really honour American soldiers who fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan, and I think and care about them. I'm not sure if soldiers in Iraq now really fighting and dying for something, for their people or it's all just because of politics.

Nor do I, but since there seems to be more people on this planet that are God fearing, than those like myself, that have "Doubts", that is the reason I said to pray for them. Now if you are an Atheists or agnostic, then simply hope our men & women in uniform stay out of harms way & to remember those that have fallen.

Of course, i'm just waiting for some immature member here to bad mouth our service men & women, so please don't let me down, because I know you idiots out there far outnumber those of us that are sane.

@ Dan,

Memorial Day was officially proclaimed on 5 May 1868 by General John Logan, national commander of the Grand Army of the Republic, in his General Order No. 11, and was first observed on 30 May 1868, when flowers were placed on the graves of Union and Confederate soldiers at Arlington National Cemetery. The first state to officially recognize the holiday was New York in 1873. By 1890 it was recognized by all of the northern states. The South refused to acknowledge the day, honoring their dead on separate days until after World War I (when the holiday changed from honoring just those who died fighting in the Civil War to honoring Americans who died fighting in any war). It is now celebrated in almost every State on the last Monday in May (passed by Congress with the National Holiday Act of 1971

 

[Pesmerga]

inb4 shitstorm

 

[Polaris]

Nor do I, but since there seems to be more people on this planet that are God fearing, than those like myself, that have "Doubts", that is the reason I said to pray for them. Now if you are an Atheists or agnostic, then simply hope our men & women in uniform stay out of harms way & to remember those that have fallen.
@ Dan,

Indeed. I will.

 

[Ennui]

Happy Memorial Day, here's to all the brave men and women who've died fighting for what they believed in.

Of course, i'm just waiting for some immature member here to bad mouth our service men & women, so please don't let me down

Me too, because then I can call it trolling and infraction or possibly ban them. /rubs hands together

 

[Dan]

Instead of having a day of regret for past wars, wouldn't it make more sense to just not have wars in the future?

It seems like everyone agrees that it was really sad, and lots of nice people died, but then how did they not realize that before the start of the Civil War? If you are going to have regrets, then don't repeat the same mistakes over and over. If you are going to have more wars, then it doesn't make sense to have regrets about all of the past ones. If the war was a necessity, then there is nothing to be sad about.

 

[Pesmerga]

Death is a necessity. Paying taxes is a necessity. I mourn both.

 

[repiV]

Instead of having a day of regret for past wars, wouldn't it make more sense to just not have wars in the future?

It seems like everyone agrees that it was really sad, and lots of nice people died, but then how did they not realize that before the start of the Civil War? If you are going to have regrets, then don't repeat the same mistakes over and over. If you are going to have more wars, then it doesn't make sense to have regrets about all of the past ones. If the war was a necessity, then there is nothing to be sad about.

I think you miss the point spectacularly. Unfortunately I also find your attitude typical of today's "me me me" generation.
There are never any winners in war, regardless of whether it's necessary or not. Some people just lose more than others. The essence of war is extreme violence, and everyone involved gets ****ed up psychologically if not physically. Families are torn apart, minds are damaged beyond repair, and national economies are destroyed by the war effort. It is merely a test of who can endure the most pain and suffering before capitulating.
Millions made these unimaginable sacrifices so that we may live free. Nowadays people really don't seem to give a shit, as evidenced not only by indifference or scorn towards the military but also indifference to our freedom and independence which we are now voluntarily giving away.

Maybe people need to suffer more so they appreciate how lucky they are and the value of that which we once sought to protect at all costs.

 

[Crash]

Okay, let me try to say this in the right ways:
I was in Desert Storm, not to mention a little thing in Europe in the late 80's that you'll never hear about. The vast majority of soldiers I was in combat with realised that what they were doing was what they signed up for. I'm not saying not to wish them well, but what I am saying is not to pity them. Some of the things most service men and women believe in is pride, duty and honor. Support, yes; sympathy, in extreme cases; but most of them don't need or want pity....
As far as war is concerned, as long as people disagree on things, there will be war. Until everyone on the planet has enough food and shelter, there will be war....

Happy Memorial Day, here's to all the brave men and women who've died fighting for what they believed in.

Think about what Ennui said here....He didn't say anything about what country, or who was wrong or right. Very well put, I must admit.....
There is more I can go into about all of this, and I will if it's necessary....but I'll get off my soap box for now....

 

[elkaebee]

And if my hands are stained, forever...

And the altar should refuse me.

Will you let me in? Will you let me in?

Should I cry "Sanctury"?

{John, Elton Herculese:Book Two, Chapter Ten, Verse Five}

 

[highlander]

Happy memorial day (apparently)

 

[MRG]

Happy Memorial Day, here's to all the brave men and women who've died fighting for what they believed in.
Me too, because then I can call it trolling and infraction or possibly ban them. /rubs hands together

"Pulls up a chair & hands Ennui a Beer..."

Instead of having a day of regret for past wars, wouldn't it make more sense to just not have wars in the future?

It seems like everyone agrees that it was really sad, and lots of nice people died, but then how did they not realize that before the start of the Civil War? If you are going to have regrets, then don't repeat the same mistakes over and over. If you are going to have more wars, then it doesn't make sense to have regrets about all of the past ones. If the war was a necessity, then there is nothing to be sad about.

Very well said Dan & I agree.

Sadly though, I don't ever see that happening.

Okay, let me try to say this in the right ways:
I was in Desert Storm, not to mention a little thing in Europe in the late 80's that you'll never hear about. The vast majority of soldiers I was in combat with realised that what they were doing was what they signed up for. I'm not saying not to wish them well, but what I am saying is not to pity them. Some of the things most service men and women believe in is pride, duty and honor. Support, yes; sympathy, in extreme cases; but most of them don't need or want pity....
As far as war is concerned, as long as people disagree on things, there will be war. Until everyone on the planet has enough food and shelter, there will be war....

Think about what Ennui said here....He didn't say anything about what country, or who was wrong or right. Very well put, I must admit.....
There is more I can go into about all of this, and I will if it's necessary....but I'll get off my soap box for now....

It's not pity that i'm offering them or asking for. It's simply respect for them that are serving or have served. Not all people join the military, knowing exactly what they are getting themselves into. Some join it thinking they will get a free ride for school, while others join it knowing full well they will be handed a gun & told to pull the trigger, while others join for many different reasons. Regardless of the reason they joined, once they are in, it's not so easy to get out before your appointed time. I'm sure a large minority of those in todays armed forces, & i'm not talking just about the US armed forces either, often do not believe in whichever military "cause" they are engaged in, such as our forces overseas, but because they are in, so many are just doing what they are told to do, just "Following Orders". That does not mean they agree.

Anyways, I too have many family members that have served. Many years ago before he died, my grandpa, gave me a shell casing almost as big as my leg, that was fired from the battleship he served on during WW1. "1918 was stamped on the shell casing. I wish I still had it. Ever since then, I have had a profound respect for all those men & women that have served or are serving. I have.. surprised I guess you could say, more than one soldier when I saw him in uniform on the street or store for one reason or another, as I walked up to him & her, to shake their hand and tell them "Thanks." Thats not pity. Thats appreciation.

-MRG

 

[Saturos]

My father served in the U.S. Marine Corps as an airwing mechanic.

My grandfather was an Army Drill Sergeant during the Korean War.

My other grandfather served in the NAVY,

...and so will I by the end of the year or sooner.

That's right, I'm entering the NAVY, so remember me as I scratch my way to a top MOS position in the computer science field.

...Hopefully anyways. Wish me luck. I'll be needing it.

 

[Sulkdodds]

Millions made these unimaginable sacrifices so that we may live free.

That's going a bit far. Just as many made sacrifices so that we could live in bondage. Perhaps more.

It only really makes sense to say "oh well I wish nobody ever had to get shot again and I wish people didn't get shot in the past." Which, having just said, I feel it not amiss to note that actually being grateful for nonspecific 'sacrifices' would simply be ignorance of the facts.

 

[Tagaziel]

I suggest learning from the mistakes of the past.

 

[repiV]

That's going a bit far. Just as many made sacrifices so that we could live in bondage. Perhaps more.

It only really makes sense to say "oh well I wish nobody ever had to get shot again and I wish people didn't get shot in the past." Which, having just said, I feel it not amiss to note that actually being grateful for nonspecific 'sacrifices' would simply be ignorance of the facts.

I was referring mainly to World War 2, and those involved in keeping communism contained.
The point is that people expect to have everything handed to them on a plate, and by doing so are choosing to "live in bondage". It's not just a cliche that many surviving WW2 veterans are now wondering what the hell they bothered to fight for.

 

[<RJMC>]

prayers? who the hell is praying on my faroms?!

 

[Shakermaker]

I was in (...) a little thing in Europe in the late 80's that you'll never hear about.

Do elaborate.

 

[Crash]

Do elaborate.

I apologize if that part of my post came across as bragging, it wasn't meant that way. I just wanted it to be understood, that I had a little bit more than average military background, and had a basis for my opinion.
Now I've put myself in a no-win situation here. If I go into more detail, it will really be out of place, and sound extremely conceited. On the other hand, if I don't post something, it will sound as if I'm making shit up.
So allow me this, it was 5 years after the Beirut bombing, and information was still being gathered as to who was really responsible for the attacks.
I hope that is enough. Going into any more detail here, about a story I've only told my son (after a few beers, I must add), would be inappropriate.

 

[MRG]

I apologize if that part of my post came across as bragging, it wasn't meant that way. I just wanted it to be understood, that I had a little bit more than average military background, and had a basis for my opinion.
Now I've put myself in a no-win situation here. If I go into more detail, it will really be out of place, and sound extremely conceited. On the other hand, if I don't post something, it will sound as if I'm making shit up.
So allow me this, it was 5 years after the Beirut bombing, and information was still being gathered as to who was really responsible for the attacks.
I hope that is enough. Going into any more detail here, about a story I've only told my son (after a few beers, I must add), would be inappropriate.

I may be wrong, so therefor the following is my own personal opinion, but when a man or woman wears the uniform from any branch of the armed forces, there is no such thing as "bragging." That is, only as long as you are telling the honest truth.

Anyways, you have my thanks for the time you spent in the service. Regardless if you loved it or thought it a waste of time.

-MRG

 

[Lucid]

My heart goes out to all the families affected by war.
And to the safe return of our men and women.

 

[Atomic_Piggy]

/badmouths men and women

I kid I kid, happy (or er, sad) memorial day, may we never have to fight again.

 

[Glirk Dient]

My father served in the U.S. Marine Corps as an airwing mechanic.

My grandfather was an Army Drill Sergeant during the Korean War.

My other grandfather served in the NAVY,

...and so will I by the end of the year or sooner.

That's right, I'm entering the NAVY, so remember me as I scratch my way to a top MOS position in the computer science field.

...Hopefully anyways. Wish me luck. I'll be needing it.

I wish you best of luck. The military can be a great experience for some and a very bad one. Don't go in expecting it to be a cake walk. I am also hoping to get into the Navy but was already disqualified from MEPS and am not trying to make my way on my own and barely affording to live yet alone find time or money for college. So good luck!

 

[Tagaziel]

I managed to avoid serving in the military. My virginity and integrity of my personality is saved!

 

[Iliketobenaked]

you serve in the military and you loose your integrity ?

http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/05/25/slideshow.memorial.day/index.html

 

[Shakermaker]

*snip*

Forgive me for being nosy. It's just that I couldn't imagine a battlefield in Europe during the late 80s. Your post makes sense though, thanks.

 

[Solaris]

RIP all those who fought for just causes.

 

[Kula Meenur]

When i was a kid i wanted to be in the Internal Troops

massive respect

 

[The Monkey]

Greetings all,

I would like to wish everyone here a "Happy" if not somber Memorial Day.

Regardless of how you feel about the United States of America or my countries political policies, please keep our soldiers in your prayers. The same goes for all of you here that live outside our borders. For each & every country has lost loved ones who have given the ultimate sacrifice for their country, in the name of Peace.

I leave you with this Video.
http://www.break.com/index/remember-me.html

-MRG

LOL

Anyway, RIP and all that.

God only knows how many more people will die before this fiasco is over.

 

[Saturos]

I wish you best of luck. The military can be a great experience for some and a very bad one. Don't go in expecting it to be a cake walk. I am also hoping to get into the Navy but was already disqualified from MEPS and am not trying to make my way on my own and barely affording to live yet alone find time or money for college. So good luck!

Thank you Glirk. It's gonna be a huge lifestyle change for me for sure. The part I worry about the most however is not getting up at 4:00A.M., the physical training, or the drill instructor(s), but the whole teamwork during emergency situations thing. When other(s) lives depend on you, it really puts on the pressure. I've worked in teams in a more laid back environment before, but nothing like this. Everything else about boot camp I know will pale in comparison, but I have confidence in myself that I can adapt and overcome any situation. Confidence is definately key, and I know if I don't focus, (my biggest character flaw) I'll be eating those words if I'm not vigilant.

 

[Qonfused]

My grandfather was a soldier in World War II and my dad was a MP in Vietnam. It seems I'm the one to break this tradition and go to college.

Memorial Day means a lot to me for the above reasons, and I really do hope that our troops get home safe.

 

[joule]

I wish you best of luck. The military can be a great experience for some and a very bad one. Don't go in expecting it to be a cake walk. I am also hoping to get into the Navy but was already disqualified from MEPS and am not trying to make my way on my own and barely affording to live yet alone find time or money for college. So good luck!

If you don't mind me asking, what were you disqualified for?

 

[Saturos]

If you don't mind me asking, what were you disqualified for?

I was going to prv msg him that actually. He may not want everyone else to know.

 

[CptStern]

If you don't mind me asking, what were you disqualified for?

he failed his flag waving to In the Navy test

 

[Glirk Dient]

Thank you Glirk. It's gonna be a huge lifestyle change for me for sure. The part I worry about the most however is not getting up at 4:00A.M., the physical training, or the drill instructor(s), but the whole teamwork during emergency situations thing. When other(s) lives depend on you, it really puts on the pressure. I've worked in teams in a more laid back environment before, but nothing like this. Everything else about boot camp I know will pale in comparison, but I have confidence in myself that I can adapt and overcome any situation. Confidence is definately key, and I know if I don't focus, (my biggest character flaw) I'll be eating those words if I'm not vigilant.

My twin bro went through bootcamp and yeah it's stressful. After the first couple weeks though it gets very easy. Not so much in that it's actually easier...your just over the initial shock of it and getting used to the change. After boot it all depends on your job. Some are more stressful/more difficult than others but it's all about how you handle it. Oh and don't mess up a lot...you will get your butt kicked haha.

If you don't mind me asking, what were you disqualified for?

When I went in they thought I had a curved back. Since then I have been to doctors and chiropractors saying I have a perfect back...so much so they wanted to use my x-ray as an example. So since I got disqualified I have been trying to get the military to re-examine me and it's pretty much impossible once they already have turned you down.

he failed his flag waving to In the Navy test

Actually they don't let openly gay islamic flag burning extremist in the military. Maybe I shouldn't have told them.

 

[CptStern]

Actually they don't let openly gay islamic flag burning extremist in the military. Maybe I shouldn't have told them.

I dont see why not ..I mean they already have gay uniforms ..you'd think they'd take it to the next level

 

[joule]

My twin bro went through bootcamp and yeah it's stressful. After the first couple weeks though it gets very easy. Not so much in that it's actually easier...your just over the initial shock of it and getting used to the change. After boot it all depends on your job. Some are more stressful/more difficult than others but it's all about how you handle it. Oh and don't mess up a lot...you will get your butt kicked haha.
The first few weeks are the worst, with the first being hell. After that, then it gradually becomes home. Friends are formed, and you just roll with each day's bullshit. It may seem like you're in forever, but it will be over before you know it. "Damn, only one week left!" And once you march your way through the drill hall for Pass-in-review in front of your friends and family, it'll all be worth it. Every last minute of it. Looking back on it, it was nowhere near as difficult as I had anticipated. In fact, boot camp was easy. What gets you ****ed over is when you fail to pay attention to detail. That's all boot camp is. "Oh, this ****er missed a belt loop." "What the ****, recruit?! Are you ****ing stupid?! DROP!" But believe me, boot camp is NOT the Navy. It's a transitioning phase, from civilian to basic recruit. And remember, they can't touch you. This ain't Full Metal Jacket. You'll do well, if you do make it that far. Just don't make yourself noticed negatively, and if you think something is wrong.. it probably is. Use your head. If you end up being put in the spotlight, take what your "drill instructors" say with a grain of salt.

When I went in they thought I had a curved back. Since then I have been to doctors and chiropractors saying I have a perfect back...so much so they wanted to use my x-ray as an example. So since I got disqualified I have been trying to get the military to re-examine me and it's pretty much impossible once they already have turned you down.
Ah, that's sucky. I'm assuming you've tried other branches to be re-evaluated. Good luck with that.

Bold.

 

[Escaep]

I dont see why not ..I mean they already have gay uniforms ..you'd think they'd take it to the next level

Isn't this how the Canadian Navy fights?