Riddick is a better character than Gordon Freeman

[Darkside55]

I CAN'T TAKE A JOKE ON THE INTARWEB AND IN AN ATTEMPT TO TURN THE TABLES I WILL ACT SUPERIOR BY PULLING THE SAME TECHNIQUE AS DARKSIDE LOLOL INTERNET!!!!!!!!!

Calm down Zeus, don't get butthurt. I was just playing with you.

:cheers:

Seriously though, I'm not going to say Riddick isn't a badass character, because he is. Killed a man with a soup cup after all. But he's just not in the same category as Gordon Freeman. Gordon Freeman is unstoppable; he could take over the entire universe with his crowbar alone, were he so inclined.

And you guys talk about Gordon not having personality...hello? Didn't you see any of his personality? I'm not talking about what you the player makes of his personality, as you are Gordon Freeman, but you can see what type of a person Gordon Freeman is. He's not mute, he's just a man of few words. He's a decisive character who, in a situation where all the other scientists were cowering in their hidey-holes, he had the tungsten testicles to pick up a crowbar and beat the shit out of things that came his way. Since Gordon was 10 years old the only weapon he'd ever fired was an air-powered potato gun or something like that (Prima guidebook), but he certainly proved adept at wielding every single weapon--both human and alien--he came across.
You can see in his character that Gordon is a natural-born leader. People gravitate to him and he has the ability to use people to the best of their abilities, such as employing the technical know-how, medical skills, and security clearance of the scientists to get through the base. He used the security guards as backup. It was Gordon's chief responsibility to preserve their lives and clean up the mess that he inadvertently made, rather than turning tail and fleeing the instant he reached the surface.

Gordon Freeman, despite saying nothing, is charismatic. In C17 people are at ease when they are around the Freeman, and everybody wants to hang out with him because he is cool and sweet. And by sweet, I mean totally awesome.

Gordon Freeman takes care of his friends and would never shoot an ally.

Gordon Freeman doesn't take shit from you, me, an intergalactic combine of technologically superior races, giant alien testicles, head-humpers, space babies, zombies, marines, crows, G-men, or the internet.

Gordon Freeman wins.

 

[Zeus]

Calm down Zeus, don't get butthurt. I was just playing with you.

:cheers:

Seriously though, I'm not going to say Riddick isn't a badass character, because he is. Killed a man with a soup cup after all. But he's just not in the same category as Gordon Freeman. Gordon Freeman is unstoppable; he could take over the entire universe with his crowbar alone, were he so inclined.

And you guys talk about Gordon not having personality...hello? Didn't you see any of his personality? I'm not talking about what you the player makes of his personality, as you are Gordon Freeman, but you can see what type of a person Gordon Freeman is. He's not mute, he's just a man of few words. He's a decisive character who, in a situation where all the other scientists were cowering in their hidey-holes, he had the tungsten testicles to pick up a crowbar and beat the shit out of things that came his way. Since Gordon was 10 years old the only weapon he'd ever fired was an air-powered potato gun or something like that (Prima guidebook), but he certainly proved adept at wielding every single weapon--both human and alien--he came across.
You can see in his character that Gordon is a natural-born leader. People gravitate to him and he has the ability to use people to the best of their abilities, such as employing the technical know-how, medical skills, and security clearance of the scientists to get through the base. He used the security guards as backup. It was Gordon's chief responsibility to preserve their lives and clean up the mess that he inadvertently made, rather than turning tail and fleeing the instant he reached the surface.

Gordon Freeman, despite saying nothing, is charismatic. In C17 people are at ease when they are around the Freeman, and everybody wants to hang out with him because he is cool and sweet. And by sweet, I mean totally awesome.

Gordon Freeman takes care of his friends and would never shoot an ally.

Gordon Freeman doesn't take shit from you, me, an intergalactic combine of technologically superior races, giant alien testicles, head-humpers, space babies, zombies, marines, crows, G-men, or the internet.

Gordon Freeman wins.

I think they like gordon a little too much, I mean, I send them off to get out of my way, 5 seconds later its "Hey let's follow freeman!!". Must be that new cologne that Gordon has on.

 

[Tinneth]

Another...pointless...arguement.

 

[Darkside55]

Followed...by...another...pointless...post.... GJ Tinneth, postcount +1.

They could be reverant in a different way than following me around though. Zeus is right, if you tell them to go somewhere a few seconds later they get impatient and try to follow you. They were beginning to piss me off during one area where I had to bypass some turrets, and I specifically told them, "STAY PUT." Hop over the laser tripwire, get close to the turrets...what happens?
"HAY GUYZ LETS FOLLOW FREEMAN!"
*Idiots trip the wire*

 

[Synthos]

I'll say this again because I think you guys missed my point the first time.

SEE PITCH BLACK BEFORE YOU PASS JUDGEMENT ON VIN DEISEL & THE RIDDICK CHARACTER

I'm not saying he's good.. I'm just saying that a person can do really well in a role and script that suits them.

btw, If you have seen pitch black then you're free to speak your mind.

It's just stupid if people start passing judgement while not looking at all the facts. Yes, he has made some bad appearances in other movies. He worst appearance I'd say was XxX and Chronicles of Riddick presented the plot and characters a bit poorly. I'd say the third Riddick movie will determine my final opinion on Vin Deisel. Perhaps Pitch Black was just a stroke of luck or a very strick director.

 

[Asuka]

Both games are good. Can we stop comparing games?

 

[NapalmAndFriends]

Both games are good. Can we stop comparing games?

Blasphemy! Have at thee!! *pang*

I have no clue as to what the hell Riddick is supposed to be, but as for the gun-flipping, Gordon does that the first time you meet someone in H2H with a crowbar.
Oh, BTW, crowbars rule. I love it how in ALIEN3 that black guy pwns the others with a crowbar.

COMEDY GOLD

 

[mortiz]

Too bad the movies that set up Riddick’s character sucked, Pitch Black? - Sucked, Chronicles of Riddick? - Sucked. In fact nearly all of the movies Vin Diesel has been in have been generic action movies that mostly sucked or were very ordinary (with the exception of Saving Private Ryan, but that's only because he dies half-way through and didn't have a leading role), thus I can't take Vin Diesel seriously at all.

 

[destrukt]

Gordon Freeman sucks, because I said so.

Yeah .. he sure does suck.

 

[Zeus]

Pitch Black was a good movie what are you talking about?

 

[Warbie]

I thought Pitch Black was pretty good too - not great, but worth a watch.

 

[mortiz]

In my opinion Pitch Black was anything but good, maybe vaguely entertaining for a while, in a mindless kind of way. Technically, i.e. how good the direction and acting was, it was rubbish.

 

[Asuka]

Too bad the movies that set up Riddick’s character sucked, Pitch Black? - Sucked, Chronicles of Riddick? - Sucked. In fact nearly all of the movies Vin Diesel has been in have been generic action movies that mostly sucked or were very ordinary (with the exception of Saving Private Ryan, but that's only because he dies half-way through and didn't have a leading role), thus I can't take Vin Diesel seriously at all.

WTF! Pitch Black was ok. The story wasnt great, but the acting done by Vin diesel for the Riddick character was amazing.

About Chronicles of Riddick, that movie was just great. Funny thing is i dont think many people know its a trilogy. There will be a Chronicles 1 2 and 3.

Pitch Black being a side story that happened before the Chronicles. So a total of 4 movies.

Chronicles of Riddick had a amazing story, good acting, good action, good cgi. Whoever hasnt seen this movie should really go get the dvd its great.

 

[Kyorisu]

lol, I guess your right about that. But still. Riddick has a developed history. There are those who respect him and those who hate him. He has a mind to think. He knows what he's doing. Once again, Gordon is us, the player. Nothing special. We aren't covert MIT graduates with a Ph.D in Alien ass kicking. That's all Gordon has.

Now for Riddick being generic, I have to disagree. Most FPS heroes aren't anything like Riddick. Most FPS heroes are trying to save the world or help someone. Riddick is just trying to survive.

Gordon may be the player, but so far he has an excellent storyline following him.

Resonance Cascade - All the other stuff in Hl1 - Killed Nillilanth - Put in Stasis - Woken from stasis - Escapes from combine - Survives Ravenholm - Kills a few Gunships - Commands an entire antlion army assualt on a prison complex - FIghts along side with the rebels - Takes down the combine gateway building - Kills a few striders - Sneaks into Citadel - Gets Uber suit and Uber Grav Gun - Kicks combine butt - Chases Breen - Destroys combine portal - Put back in stasis

All Ridick has is

Stuff - Survive and kill npcs

There may be objectives in Riddick, but as you said he's just trying to survive. Gordon has no idea whats happening and in noway is the "Free man"

 

[Zeus]

Gordon may be the player, but so far he has an excellent storyline following him.

Resonance Cascade - All the other stuff in Hl1 - Killed Nillilanth - Put in Stasis - Woken from stasis - Escapes from combine - Survives Ravenholm - Kills a few Gunships - Commands an entire antlion army assualt on a prison complex - FIghts along side with the rebels - Takes down the combine gateway building - Kills a few striders - Sneaks into Citadel - Gets Uber suit and Uber Grav Gun - Kicks combine butt - Chases Breen - Destroys combine portal - Put back in stasis

All Ridick has is

Stuff - Survive and kill npcs

There may be objectives in Riddick, but as you said he's just trying to survive. Gordon has no idea whats happening and in noway is the "Free man"

I don't know if you played riddick EFBB but I'll give you a little timelime

Arrives at prison-Defeats prison gang leader and his gang-Puts himself into DNA databank-blasts through tons of guards-survives the Pit-gets eyeshine-sneaks into guard quarters (snapping necks in the process)-sneaks into guard captains apartment-shoots him down- gets put in double max (the mines) - fights through 5 really tough guys - fights guard captain again (w/ no interruption this time) kills him - sneaks into the work mines - puts up bomb, letting out creatures- fights his way to the spaceport- defeats a heavy guard (HUGE armored mech) gets to ship- gets caught - sent to TRIPLE MAX (cryo storage)- escapes- hijacks a heavy guard- fights his way to the ship- fights hoxies special guards- gets hoxie killed- Escapes from Butcher Bay.


And that's just the game.

 

[Burn]

Compairing an npc in a game, too an actor?

Thats ****ed up, yo.

 

[mortiz]

Sorry man, if you think CoR or Pitch Black were good movies then in my opinion you have bad taste in movies.

 

[Zeus]

Sorry man, if you think CoR or Pitch Black were good movies then in my opinion you have bad taste in movies.

Yes, in your opinion.

 

[IchI]

Hmmm.... Tortured Prison guy with kewl night vision eyes as he stalks and kills his enemies and just people in general or a geek with glasses who works in a labatory and gets dragged into fighting aliens.

WTF! is wrong with you people, who in the right mind would vote for Gorden Freeman. My god everyone knows Freeman is a crap character but that doesn't make Half-Life a shit game, stop sticking up for it. I hate it when people just blatently bum the **** out of Half-Life.

Anyway, I have strongly gone to one side because of other people doing the same the other way which is quiet ironic. But it is very anoying

NOTE: remember this is the Rid character, not the film. Just the character concept in general. Hense why the topic says CHARCTER and not FILM!

 

[mortiz]

Hmmm.... Tortured Prison guy with kewl night vision eyes as he stalks and kills his enemies and just people in general or a geek with glasses who works in a labatory and gets dragged into fighting aliens.

WTF! is wrong with you people, who in the right mind would vote for Gorden Freeman. My god everyone knows Freeman is a crap character but that doesn't make Half-Life a shit game, stop sticking up for it. I hate it when people just blatently bum the **** out of Half-Life.

Anyway, I have strongly gone to one side because of other people doing the same the other way which is quiet ironic. But it is very anoying

NOTE: remember this is the Rid character, not the film. Just the character concept in general. Hense why the topic says CHARCTER and not FILM!

The ignorant logic astounds me. So you're saying if we disagree with Riddick being a better character than Freeman were automatically "bumming" Half-Life 2? There are better characters in video games than Gordon Freeman, but I just so happen to think Riddick isn't one of them. Aren't we allowed to have our opinions now?

Freeman may not speak throughout Half-Life 1 & 2 but that doesn't make him a rubbish character, it's how the other characters react to him that makes him a good character. You can argue till the hills collapse about which character would be better "outside" of the game world, but at the end of the day it's the game that makes the character. Freeman is an example of a hero that is made by the events in the game.

 

[ailevation]

:dozey: If you think about it, out of all the arguments, we look like gay dudes debating which one looks better, with disguised meanings.

"Riddick is so badass" = "Gosh, Riddick is so sexy with his muscles and his hardcore sexy attitude".

"Gordon is cool because he's a quiet cool ass scientist" = "I like a quiet type of man that's super smart, very sexy."

 

[Zeus]

:dozey: If you think about it, out of all the arguments, we look like gay dudes debating which one looks better, with disguised meanings.

"Riddick is so badass" = "Gosh, Riddick is so sexy with his muscles and his hardcore sexy attitude".

"Gordon is cool because he's a quiet cool ass scientist" = "I like a quiet type of man that's super smart, very sexy."

What's this "we" stuff? You got a turd in your pocket?

 

[ailevation]

:O Oh yeah, not we, YOU. Sorry about that.

 

[Zeus]

:O Oh yeah, not we, YOU. Sorry about that.

Hey, you're the one that came up with idea.

 

[ailevation]

Hey, you're the one that came up with idea.

:hmph: What can I say? I'm GAY, nobody told you...? Gosh.

 

[<RJMC>]

Yes, in your opinion.

amen to that

well CoR wasnt great but was okay and enjoyable

and pitch black better

btw why is comparing gordon freeman whit Vin Diesel?

is Riddick the on that is suposed to be compared not Vin Diesel

 

[thehunter1320]

riddick had a bump-buddy in butcher bay, thats for the director's director's cut version, tho

 

[Top Secret]

Pitch Black is my favorite movie.

 

[mortiz]

Now that you mention it, Gordon is pretty sexy !

I don't know about Riddick, there's something about bald dudes!

 

[Zeus]

riddick had a bump-buddy in butcher bay, thats for the director's director's cut version, tho

Where? I beat EFBBC and didn't see anything like that.

 

[oldagerocker]

:dozey: If you think about it, out of all the arguments, we look like gay dudes debating which one looks better, with disguised meanings.

"Riddick is so badass" = "Gosh, Riddick is so sexy with his muscles and his hardcore sexy attitude".

"Gordon is cool because he's a quiet cool ass scientist" = "I like a quiet type of man that's super smart, very sexy."

Quoted for emphasis.

This is a silly topic... c'mon. its like 2 children debating who'se Action Man or Barbie doll is the coolest. Who cares? Every fps needs a hero, if they have big bulky, incredibly sexy muscles or glasses it doesnt matter.

 

[mortiz]

Quoted for emphasis.

This is a silly topic... c'mon. its like 2 children debating who'se Action Man or Barbie doll is the coolest. Who cares? Every fps needs a hero, if they have big bulky, incredibly sexy muscles or glasses it doesnt matter.

This is nothing like that debate, everyone knows Action Man is cooler, to say otherwise would be plain wrong!

 

[Synthos]

OMFG SHUT UP!

kthxbye

 

[destrukt]

This is nothing like that debate, everyone knows Action Man is cooler, to say otherwise would be plain wrong!

I actually do miss Action Man, with his water pistol guns

 

[NapalmAndFriends]

OMFG SHUT UP!

kthxbye

Perfect example of the common internet idiot. I think someone coined it when they said "The internet is proof that 99% of education is pointless. The little ****ers'll never learn."


*No offense meant, it's just that your response was idiotic and badly spelled.

 

[Fat Tony!]

uh oh spoilers must burn my eyes out

 

[Ghost Freeman]

This thread is the epitome of intarweb entertainment.

 

[Zerox]

Riddick is an badass character.

 

[<RJMC>]

OMFG SHUT UP!

kthxbye

some can explain why this was for?

 

[Synthos]

it meant to be a spoof on the internet's bad slang
but also.. I think it's time people stopped fighting about this topic..