Ron Paul is my hero

[Geogaddi]

I can't believe I actually like a Republican... It feels so dirty.

Not that he shares the delusions of the GOP.

I get the feeling he's just a libertarian who has wised up to the fact that choosing one of the big two is the only way he stands a chance.

I was originally slanted a little more towards Obama, but this guy seems to be even more representative of my opinions.


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Discuss.


EDIT: Also Ron Paul is an awesome porn star name.

 

[clarky003]

Rachel agrees

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8rsMhQUFkA[/YOUTUBE]

 

[Niosis]

I get the feeling he's just a libertarian who has wised up to the fact that choosing one of the big two is the only way he stands a chance.

He pretty much admitted that on the daily show.

"Paul, who is more of a libertarian than a Republican...."
-CNN.com

 

[DeusExMachina]

I think I'm in love.

*Boots Giuliani and Obama*

 

[MiccyNarc]

I love ron paul. I've got a man crush on him.

 

[Kadayi]

Rachel agrees

Very eloquent it has to be said. I'm another Ron Paul junkie (and I'm not even American)

Go Ron Paul!!!!

 

[staticprimer]

While I don't agree with his desire to privatize many government services, I do agree with him completely on many other issues, especially foreign policy. He also seems to be the only candidate with true integrity, something this country needs more than anything else in its next president.

 

[Qonfused]

GO GRAVEL.

Cough.

 

[Kadayi]

GO GRAVEL.

Gravel is as sensible as Paul, but I'm not seeing him beating Clinton or Obama to the candidacy unfortunately.

 

[Qonfused]

Gravel is too liberal to even consider him defeating the news train that Clinton and Obama are. I mean check out this clip of him...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3203456327880318781&q=gravel

 

[Stigmata]

Gravel is too liberal to even consider him defeating the news train that Clinton and Obama are. I mean check out this clip of him...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3203456327880318781&q=gravel

Ehh, I don't really understand how he's going to manage to simultaneously withdraw troops and then take an "aggressive" stance towards instating Iraqi democracy.

Here, watch this: http://youtube.com/watch?v=_fFX4V23FVo?search_query=mike+gravel+interview+chris+mathews

 

[Baratos]

Im voting for Al Gore. I dont care if he has a heart attack and dies before election day, he gets my vote.

 

[Qonfused]

My prediction is that he won't run for this term. Maybe the next one.

 

[BaconIsGood4You]

Not that I'm not happy that many Democrats are excited about Paul, but what do you think of his goal of killing government (Departments of Education, Energy, Homeland Security, etc.)?

Are you just more concerned about foreign policy and his integrity (which is really remarkable. It doesn't seem he's a politician at all but a statesman) or do you take faith in his assurances of a transitional period that will make slow and reversible change?

Me I'm a libertarian so I'm naturally in love with the guy, I'd like to hear more specific reasons for why more mainstream people do.

 

[Stigmata]

Not that I'm not happy that many Democrats are excited about Paul, but what do you think of his goal of killing government (Departments of Education, Energy, Homeland Security, etc.)?

Are you just more concerned about foreign policy and his integrity (which is really remarkable. It doesn't seem he's a politician at all but a statesman) or do you take faith in his assurances of a transitional period that will make slow and reversible change?

Me I'm a libertarian so I'm naturally in love with the guy, I'd like to hear more specific reasons for why more mainstream people do.

I think he's right about killing those departments. They're there to improve things, but if you look at the actual state of what each is trying to improve, it's just awful. The education system, as we've seen, is absolute shit, Homeland Security is fundamentally flawed and is nothing but a massive monetary sinkhole, and... as for the department of Energy, I'm not quite informed about that one. But on a cursory check it seems that the only part of its job that it's doing is nuclear weapons research, while quietly sidestepping energy conservation and alternate energy research, though it does seem to fund a lot of scientific research outside the dept.

I actually would like to see him win.

... I feel dirty.

 

[MiccyNarc]

I swear we just need to get the word out about him more...Seems as soon as someone hears what he has to say, they instantly support him. It's scary, it's like a virus.

 

[Baratos]

Oh, also, I would like to point out why I will never vote for Ron Paul: this.
David Duke, who as far as I can tell leads the Ku Klux Klan, loves the guy. Also, look at this gem posted by a neo-nazi:

Anyone who doesn't vote for Paul on this site is an assclown. Sure he doesn't come right out and say he is a WN [white nationalist], who cares! He promotes agendas and ideas that allow Nationalism to flourish. If we "get there" without having to raise hell, who cares; aslong as we finally get what we want. I don't understand why some people do not support this man, Hitler is dead, and we shall probably never see another man like him.

 

[Stigmata]

Well this is new.

I'm starting to really not like him anymore.

 

[DeusExMachina]

White Nationalists always praise Libertarians, that's no surprise.

All that other stuff doesn't matter. His voting pattern has always reflected he is a strict constitutionalist and never goes against his own word like so many other politicians. Yes, he is anti-choice, and anti-gay marriage, most unfortunate, but he doesn't want to outlaw or demonize them. I'd imagine his views on some of these issues have changed since 1996. 2007 is a completely different monster to 11 years ago. Christ, the guy does pro bono medical care for people. When he actually starts displaying these kind of sentiments, then I'll punch myself in the face. For now, he's the one I'll be supporting.

 

[No Limit]

All that other stuff doesn't matter. His voting pattern has always reflected he is a strict constitutionalist and never goes against his own word like so many other politicians. Yes, he is anti-choice, and anti-gay marriage, most unfortunate, but he doesn't want to outlaw or demonize them. I'd imagine his views on some of these issues have changed since 1996. 2007 is a completely different monster to 11 years ago. Christ, the guy does pro bono medical care for people. When he actually starts displaying these kind of sentiments, then I'll punch myself in the face. For now, he's the one I'll be supporting.

So you want to have a guy that believes there is no serperation of church and state as president? Really??? He didn't say this 11 years ago, he said this in 2003.

Edit:

This doesn't look so good eighter:

First, there's Tom DeLay. Paul may be loudly anti-corporate and anti-GOP establishment; but that didn't stop him from taking $6,000 from DeLay's ARMPAC. According to the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, Paul returned the favor by voting to weaken House ethics rules when DeLay proposed doing so as GOP Majority Leader; and to allow DeLay to continue to serve after an indictment. Since DeLay is easily the biggest corporate whore Washington has seen since Mark Hanna, we're not wrong to wonder about Paul's true enthusiasm for curbing corporate excess.

Look, like you I thought this guy was a breath of fresh air. Then I started to read some racist things he said back in 1992. Like you at first I said that was a long time ago, its nothing. But come on, you simply can not ignore all those other things he said/did. We don't can't afford another psycho in the white house.

 

[Krynn72]

Ewwww. Republican coodies!!

At first I felt like I might vote for Obama, because he seems like he would fix a lot of things in our country, Ron Paul seems like a much more realistic guy who doesnt seem afraid of stopping bad ideas. A lot of these guys think that more time and more money will fix eventually make things better... but so many things that the Bush administration introduced are so fundamentally flawed that there is no light at the end of the tunnel for them. Our foreign policy is shit. Complete and utter shit. Im American, and I hate our government because of our foreign policy... so I can only imagine what its like for the people who are actually influenced by our governments bullshit antics. We need to gtfo out of other people's lives first, so that we might get a chance to fix all the wrong in our own country.

 

[Baratos]

Well this is new.

I'm starting to really not like him anymore.

I think I just proved the existence of negative publicity.

 

[Geogaddi]

Meh, I haven't seen any evidence that he is racist, other than an idiot who supports him, which does not make Ron Paul racist.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul68.html

http://www.freemarketnews.com/Analysis/134/7587/high alert.asp?wid=134&nid=7587

Not sure about these sources, but it's better than some random person's blog.

 

[No Limit]

Meh, I haven't seen any evidence that he is racist, other than an idiot who supports him, which does not make Ron Paul racist.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul68.html

http://www.freemarketnews.com/Analysis/134/7587/high alert.asp?wid=134&nid=7587

Not sure about these sources, but it's better than some random person's blog.

http://www.chron.com/content/chronicle/aol-metropolitan/96/05/23/paul.html

 

[Kadayi]

http://www.chron.com/content/chronicle/aol-metropolitan/96/05/23/paul.html

From what's been said about this on other sites, this was written by an aide, not Paul himself and the aide was subsequently fired. If it was truly out there as valid then the Fox news rabid Neocons would of used it to bury Paul by now. That they haven't, speaks volumes tbh.

Personally I'd like to see the entire article as was written, rather than some choice lines with a bit of salacious commentary on them tbh, before remotely making any sort of judgement, but given Paul is for individual liberty and freedom as defined through the constitution and has been from the off, I'm not seeing him remotely being the racist bigot this article purports (did you even read the links Geo posted.....) :dozey:

 

[delusional]

I think Ron Paul has the best foreign policy out of all the candidates. Everything else he believes, a lot of people may not agree with. Still hopes he wins though.

 

[Absinthe]

Rachel agrees

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8rsMhQUFkA[/YOUTUBE]

Ah, a prime candidate for a face****.

 

[MiccyNarc]

I hope everyone understands the whole state's rights thing that Ron Paul believes in.

Basically, Massachusetts, Texas, California, and Kentucky can now do all the crazy crap they want and it won't affect the rest of us unless we choose to visit them.

 

[No Limit]

I hope everyone understands the whole state's rights thing that Ron Paul believes in.

Basically, Massachusetts, Texas, California, and Kentucky can now do all the crazy crap they want and it won't affect the rest of us unless we choose to visit them.

So bascially split everything into 50 different countires.

I think this whole states rights bullcrap is an excuse to allow big corporations to run around unregulated. It does nothing to benefit us personally.

 

[xX NoTe 2 SeLf]

k im 17 and tend to swing towards the liberal side of things ... so naturally i was planning on registering as a democrat

but this guy has got me ready to register republican just to vote for him in the primary where he needs it... the only thing your party affiliation has an effect on anyways is the primary

 

[A.I.]

Ron Paul is my hero too. I think that those allegations misinterpretations about him being a racist 'n' stuff can't hold against the fact that he's been neglected and shunned away by the mainstream media. Thus, we can easily conclude that he doesn't fit into the equations that corporations set for 2008. There is too big discrepancy between the internet and the mainstream media to ignore it.

 

[xX NoTe 2 SeLf]

Like the girl said on the video on the first page of this, he actually gets people excited about the future and thinking that it's not a lost cause. He's the only candidate that I have seen that stands up for what is truly right and doesn't regurgitate bad solutions to problems with added sugar coating. I think in the latest presidential elections people vote for the candidate with the best of the bad solutions/policies. Now we have someone to vote for with an actual good policy.

 

[delusional]

I think this whole states rights bullcrap is an excuse to allow big corporations to run around unregulated.

Last I heard no big corporations support States Rights, I'm pretty sure they are extremely happy how things are run now.

 

[No Limit]

Last I heard no big corporations support States Rights, I'm pretty sure they are extremely happy how things are run now.

If you eliminate the IRS as well as all federal government regulations of big business corporations will be the only ones to benefit from that. They absolutely love this idea.

 

[Geogaddi]

Oh yeah, new videos and ones I forgot to post before.

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[Yorick]

Like the girl said on the video on the first page of this, he actually gets people excited about the future and thinking that it's not a lost cause. He's the only candidate that I have seen that stands up for what is truly right and doesn't regurgitate bad solutions to problems with added sugar coating. I think in the latest presidential elections people vote for the candidate with the best of the bad solutions/policies. Now we have someone to vote for with an actual good policy.

Definitely. I didn't vote on the Bush/Kerry election because both candidates were sacks of potatoes. I'm hoping Ron Paul gets up there because he'd really be worth voting for.

 

[delusional]

If big corporations today want States Rights then why arent they supporting candidates who do? Don?t you think If they loved states rights they would be lobbying to achieve this goal? I personally think big corporations don?t want States Rights or no regulations. I think Corporations are happy about their situation now. Especially when they receive government subsidies. And influence Congress to make laws that benefit them at the cost of American citizens. For example,

The Archer Daniels Midland Corporation (ADM) has been the most prominent recipient of corporate welfare in recent U.S. history. ADM and its chairman Dwayne Andreas have lavishly fertilized both political parties with millions of dollars in handouts and in return have reaped billion-dollar windfalls from taxpayers and consumers. Thanks to federal protection of the domestic sugar industry, ethanol subsidies, subsidized grain exports, and various other programs, ADM has cost the American economy billions of dollars since 1980 and has indirectly cost Americans tens of billions of dollars in higher prices and higher taxes over that same period. At least 43 percent of ADM's annual profits are from products heavily subsidized or protected by the American government. Moreover, every $1 of profits earned by ADM's corn sweetener operation costs consumers $10, and every $1 of profits earned by its ethanol operation costs taxpayers $30.

http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/pa-241.html

Do you really think Corporations want the government subsidies to stop rolling in?

And when Ron Paul talks about getting rid of the IRS, that means getting rid of individual income taxes not corporate income taxes, so I don?t see the connection between corporations and the IRS.

 

[clarky003]

There is no direct connection, unless some of the same corporate bosses work for the Federal Reserve bank, as the IRS is definately the guard dog of the FED.

But there is definately no law for US citizens to be taxed on income, it is enforced by the IRS. not enforced democratically but instead enforced

1. By fooling you into thinking you have to pay it

2. Through the obsurd use of lower courts not being under any apparent influence by the supreme court as to the illegality of the income tax under the consitution.

and

3. through the use of threats and excessive force to illegally seize your property and illegally put you in jail.

Just watch Aron Russo's 'America Freedom to Facisim' , that also features Ron Paul.

The IRS is a criminal organisation, and so is the FED and Ron Paul is the first politician to have the guts to tell the truth.

 

[xX NoTe 2 SeLf]

yay 4 reviving this thread!

 

[Sheepo]

Colbert is the only reason Ron Paul is well known. Colbert is GOD!!