Serenity / Firefly

The greatest question of them all: Who's better?

  • Inara

    Votes: 9 18.8%

  • Kaylee

    Votes: 23 47.9%

  • River

    Votes: 9 18.8%

  • Saffron

    Votes: 3 6.3%

  • Zoe

    Votes: 1 2.1%

  • Other (specify)

    Votes: 3 6.3%
  • Total voters
    48
People, please! This is about the characters, not the actresses.

Summer Glau is the most egregious example, being as she looks extremely weird and gawky in the series, wherein Real Life she's much more attractive (as evidenced by the picture posted upthread).

I also heard (unconfirmed) rumor that Jewel Staite, the actress portraying Kaylee, is less impressive in real life. If I am wrong, someone please prove me as such.

On another note, I wonder how many times YoSaffBridge would have appeared had the series taken off. I have no problems with her being a recurring villain, but that would have meant her name would have gotten even longer than it is already...
 
Kaylee because she has a great smile. However Saffron (Christina Hendricks) is a fine looking woman. She's starring in Mad Men now and it's well worth watching imho.
 
Saffron has gigantic tits.

I'd do River. It would be fun watching her scream then her pussy would chop you wang off then her pussy would eat it and blood would be gushing out of everywhere.
 
God damn it.

I'm sorry folks, I try to remain the neutral Arbiter, but I just rewatched Trash.

Saffron has gorgeous hair, beautiful face, lovely soft white body, and freaking enormous, physically flawless breasts. I'm closing this poll. Waste of my time and yours when the obvious answer is staring me in the face from my computer screen.

Good afternoon gentlemen (or morning for our European friends).

I'll be in my bunk.
 
Mr-Fusion said:
Saffron has gigantic tits.

I'd do River. It would be fun watching her scream then her pussy would chop you wang off then her pussy would eat it and blood would be gushing out of everywhere.
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At least this wasn't weird.
 
^ I would have voted for her but I wouldn't want to wake up naked and alone in a desert the next day.
 
Operational said:
^ I would have voted for her but I wouldn't want to wake up naked and alone in a desert the next day.
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What worries me is that if I had been in Mal's shoes, I have no doubts that I would have fallen for her in an instant...and then woken up naked in the desert with my ship sold for scrap metal...


...and some part of me would still think it had been totally worth it.
 
Am I the only one who doesn't find Inara attractive? I voted River. Dark, mysterious, yummy....
 
I dont find either attractive. I'm a girl =.= And I'd either go for River {kick a$$, a bit insane, crazy, a genius. } or Inara. {smart a$$, pretty cool, knows how to shoot off a gun at least }. Either way, I vote River. ^^
 
Shigga-bump!


Just watched a weeklong marathon of Firefly and Serenity.

Whats the deal with Shepherd Book? This is the biggest reason why I am still pissed to this day about the cancellation of the show. Its the one story arc that wasnt really concluded with the movie, and we're just left guessing. ITS MESSING WITH MY BRAIN I CANT GET IT OUT.

Also I wish they would start the show up again on HBO or something. Just make it take place between the events of the last episode and the movie, so that way Wash is still around. Of course, Summer Glau is almost ****ing 30 now, so I dont know how well she'd be able to play a 17 year old girl anymore.
 
I recently rewatched Firefly and when I got to the end I remembered one of the main things that pissed me off about it being cancelled (amongst many) - just how bad the ''final'' episode is as a wrap up. Of course, this isn't Whedon's or any of the teams fault, but it's just so... bleh as a outro for such a fantastic cast of characters that it really upset me just how Fox could be so cold hearted to the show.

****.
 
If the show were to ever have another chance in hell at being on the air again, they'd have to go on the Syfy channel.
They would no doubt jump at the chance to revive it, but alas, Whedon is FOX's bitch. :|
 
Krynn72 said:
Whats the deal with Shepherd Book? This is the biggest reason why I am still pissed to this day about the cancellation of the show. Its the one story arc that wasnt really concluded with the movie, and we're just left guessing. ITS MESSING WITH MY BRAIN I CANT GET IT OUT.
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It kind of was concluded by the movie's end in a way because what it said was that it didn't matter where any of them came from, they all arrived at this once place with a very clear idea of what had to be done.

As far as Book's origins, there are lots of ideas. What I imagine is that he had been some kind of high ranking Alliance official and had come out of the war changed. The fact that he hid from the world in a monastery goes along with that, as well as the scene where he gets shot and the Alliance scan his Ident card and give him treatment.

The other thing that points in this direction is in the movie, where Book is talking to Mal about the Operative, and says "They'll come at you sideways, it's how they think. Saddle up alongside adn smile, hit you where you're weak" and Mal says "It's of interest to me how you know so much about that world" and Book replies "I wasn't born a Shepherd, Mal".

There's also his knowledge of weapon and adept usage, his knowledge of Niska, and other things. In the comic - that very poorly tried to bridge the show and the movie - there's a bit where Book punches Mal, which is when he decides he has to leave the ship. Mal says that he doesn't care that Book hit him, and Book replies "And eventually I won't care either" or something of that sort.

Book is a character that was a bad guy, and went on this redemptive journey to reach a point where he felt he could help people, spread faith and the word of God. The parallels to Malcolm Reynolds are clear, as someone who is a "bad" guy in this new society and is put in a position to really do the right thing. There's a point in the movie where Book says "Why is it that when I say faith you always assume I'm talking about God?" and "I don't care what you believe, just believe." Mal's a tormented, hopeless individual barely clinging on to a ship that's falling apart and a crew that's dying off and leaving. Book was a foil to him as someone who acknowledges how absolutely wrong the situation is, and how much hope can play a role in what one does.

Oh, in short: His origin being vague still leaves enough clues

Lucid said:
If the show were to ever have another chance in hell at being on the air again, they'd have to go on the Syfy channel.
They would no doubt jump at the chance to revive it, but alas, Whedon is FOX's bitch. :|
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Doesn't Fox own the Scifi channel?
 
I just wish we got to see Book's story play out. Sure, we can speculate on the hints and subtle bits of information we got, but it wasnt played like River/Simon's histories were. It just seems like there was so much they had planned for his character, and it was never realized.
 
Yorick said:
Doesn't Fox own the Scifi channel?
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Nope, NBC Universal does.
Also, I think we all know how much we can speculate at his past and how obvious it is that he was with the Alliance at some point but it's like we all just wanted to see it unfold in the show itself and get it confirmed.

Instead they left us hanging with more hints and then just kill him off.
Extremely cruel to the fanbase, tbh.
 
Ah I get you.

Yes I, too, felt like there was a lot more that could have been done with the character.
 
Hey! Wow. I think this is the first thread of mine that ever got rezzed. Neat!

Aaaanyway... I always liked the idea that Shepherd was the commanding Alliance officer at the Battle of Serenity Valley. IIRC from the first episode, it was the name of the ship that caught his attention. Why would it do that unless he had been there?

As an aside, I was thinking the other day, and I realized how horrible Jayne's situation is. He is surrounded 24/7 by four beautiful women (and in "Our Mrs. Reynolds", five), and he can't touch any of them or he'll be airlocked. It'd drive a lesser man mad.
 
TheAntipop said:
I recently rewatched Firefly and when I got to the end I remembered one of the main things that pissed me off about it being cancelled (amongst many) - just how bad the ''final'' episode is as a wrap up. Of course, this isn't Whedon's or any of the teams fault, but it's just so... bleh as a outro for such a fantastic cast of characters that it really upset me just how Fox could be so cold hearted to the show.

****.
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Yeah, I know what you mean. But even still, I think that was one of my favorite episodes. Early was a great character.
 
I loved Early's character, but I wish that episode didn't follow so chronologically with the movie, because there are similarities there.

Thunderclap said:
Aaaanyway... I always liked the idea that Shepherd was the commanding Alliance officer at the Battle of Serenity Valley. IIRC from the first episode, it was the name of the ship that caught his attention. Why would it do that unless he had been there?
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I don't remember it playing out that way but it has been some time since I watched it. I thought it was more:

Kaylee: "You're gonna come with us."
Book: "What?"
Kaylee: "You're gonna come with us. You're not looking at destinations."
Book: "How you get there's the worthier part."
Kaylee: "You like ships, and mine's the best"
Book: "She don't look like much."
Kaylee: "Eh she'll fool you"

then they talk ships. then she asks if he can pay. then he says I'm Book, and she says I'm Kaylee, and this here's Serenity. It seemed like he was interested in going with them before hearing the name.
 
TheAntipop said:
I recently rewatched Firefly and when I got to the end I remembered one of the main things that pissed me off about it being cancelled (amongst many) - just how bad the ''final'' episode is as a wrap up. Of course, this isn't Whedon's or any of the teams fault, but it's just so... bleh as a outro for such a fantastic cast of characters that it really upset me just how Fox could be so cold hearted to the show.

****.
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It wasn't meant as a wrap up. It also wasn't the last episode broadcast, the pilot was the last episode broadcast, I think.
 
Yeah. FOX played the series completely out of order.
They thought that the Train Job had more action and would be what people wanted to see first, so they used that as the pilot.
Although, the opening to Serenity had plenty of action to keep the ADHD tv viewers entertained, imo.

I don't see the logic at all, personally... the show was about the characters and FOX really ****ed it over by not letting them get introduced properly.
 
Hey faygits, THERE IS A POLL AND A SPECIFIC THREAD TOPIC.

Inara.
 
This thread is now about Firefly and Serenity in a general.
 
AJ Rimmer said:
It wasn't meant as a wrap up.
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I know, that's what pisses me off - how badly placed it is.

It also wasn't the last episode broadcast, the pilot was the last episode broadcast, I think
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...but, this I didn't know. I never caught the broadcast, I got the DVDs a year or so later.
 
TheAntipop said:
I know, that's what pisses me off - how badly placed it is.



...but, this I didn't know. I never caught the broadcast, I got the DVDs a year or so later.
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Me too, but you'll be hearing Joss Whedon bitch about it on most of the commentaries (and rightfully so).
 
Why is Whedon still fox's bitch? I was quite pissed when I found out he was doing Dollhouse for Fox. He really needs to get away from them.
 
I've long been of the opinion that Book was an ex-operative, much as Chiwetel Ejiofor's character becomes by the end of the movie.
 
Eejit said:
I've long been of the opinion that Book was an ex-operative, much as Chiwetel Ejiofor's character becomes by the end of the movie.
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This. I don't think there was anything more profound to it than that.
 
I typically prefer to remain very quite, sitting in the background listening to you guys ever so polity discuss the various topics you do has proven, at least for me, proven to be much more entertaining. Heck I even waited a year after discovering this site to create a profile here. However, having said that, upon running across this poll I felt compelled to add my two cents.

ZOEY FRIGGIN' ROCKS!
 
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