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Yep I feel exactly the same way. HL2/HL2DM ragdolls are generally gimmicky/over the top and while immensely fun lose impact over a short time. CS:S on the other hand have far more acceptable ragdolls/weights and only occasionally do the bodies do cool looking moves. Which drastically extends their enjoyment and fills the game requirements of "realistic", perfectly balanced ragdolling.stigmata said:I prefer CSS's ragdolls over HL2DM's. The ones in DM are more "flashy" while the ones in CSS are more realistic.