should I be a decoy?

[Sulkdodds]

Hmm. Dilemma. Goad Lemonking into getting himself killed by angry alcoholic teenage gangsters, or try to protect him from himself?

-Sulkdodds

 

[Angry Lawyer]

Goad him. Its the only way he'll learn.

-Angry Lawyer

 

[Lemonking]

Goad? is that some brit slang?

 

[Sulkdodds]

Yes. It means 'force at gunpoint'.

-Sulkdodds

 

[Angry Lawyer]

Goad means "Encourage". Its in the dictionary, it's not slang.

-Angry Lawyer

 

[Lemonking]

but only u brits use it right?

 

[Sulkdodds]

No, I'm pretty sure everyone does.

-Sulkdodds

 

[RakuraiTenjin]

my dad offered me that I could be a decoy for his Sherriffs Department.
going in 2 Liquer shops trying 2 buy alcohol (Im only 17)
so it sounds cool BUT I think I would feel bad for the people working there
so Im not really sure If can do it without feeling bad.but then again whats so hard about asking for ID?
I thought I should make a thread cuz its a moral thing, I wanna know what you guys think.:cheers:

Do it, that's pretty cool and it could help you learn some ins and outs (not a lot but hey experience is experience) if you want to go into any similar law enforcement field later on.

And I don't see why you'd feel bad. They're not asking for ID and that's pretty bad.

 

[DreadLord]

but only u brits use it right?

No, just people who are fluent in English, unlike certain kings of lemon.

I say do it, you getting shot would be for the good of the community.

 

[Ikerous]

Don't do it :|

Some guy could end up losing his business because of that. If he loses his job, he could lose his car and house too. I realize it's his fault, but come on, someone has to sell us alcohol

 

[RakuraiTenjin]

Don't do it :|

Some guy could end up losing his business because of that. If he loses his job, he could lose his car and house too. I realize it's his fault, but come on, someone has to sell us alcohol

Don't report crime because the criminal might get in trouble?

Right...

 

[Ikerous]

Don't report crime because the criminal might get in trouble?

Right...

Yea.. I realized that.. thats why i added my last comment XD

Plus i just wanted to point out that what he might do could have serious long term repercussions for someone.
I know i couldn't do it :|

 

[Lemonking]

No, just people who are fluent in English, unlike certain kings of lemon.

I say do it, you getting shot would be for the good of the community.

yeah you go **** yourself you ass

 

[Dan]

except that as a 17 year old, I'd imagine that you and most of your friends would realize that the 21 drinking age is a silly law that has no real bearance to maturity. It's also a rather arbitrary age. Most of the world is 18, and a loosely inforced 18 at that. I've never heard of police officers sending in decoys to buy alcohol underage in any other country than the US. And I don't think they could press any charges seeing how the whole thing is essentially entrapment, and the seller could just say he thought you were 26 unless you went up to them and said "I am 17, I would like to illegally purchase this alcoholic beverage. Please acknowledge your willingness to perform this illegal transaction."

 

[Sulkdodds]

21 is ridiculous so I say don't do it on moral grounds! Make a statement! Stick it to the man!

(that's a good point about the entrapment thing.

)

 

[Dan]

Personally I think that the drinking age thing is more of a rite of initiation like hazing and that nonesense. It's a way for older people to say, yeah I had to put up with that crap. Now you have to too. It's a way for "adults" (I mean people who are 21-25. To justify that they are somehow better than "kids" (<21). "Yeah I can drink, you can't. I'm more mature than you. " I worked this summer in the states and the most humiliating thing is going to a bar with over 21 friends and getting marked with x's on your hand and being told to drink soda all night.

Even at a small local pub we were pretty much the only people there on Thursday night, and chatting with the owner, telling jokes and such. She was a nice woman. But she said even if she'd like to, she just can't even look the other way if someone buys me a drink because the law enforcement is so anal about that stuff that you can lose your business essentially if they walk in on that.

 

[bassport]

Well... accept the offer, but when you have gotten the alcohol do the classic movie thing: drop the package, draw your weapon, aim with two hands and shout: "FREEZE! Federal Agent! Don't move! Everybody on the ground, NOW!"

That should do it >:]

:dozey:

 

[bassport]

Here in Switzerland, you can buy beer(s) from 16 on and harder alcohol from 18 on and we DO have masses of drunken kids... but they're all peaceful, it seems.

I can't help you, sorry.

 

[SimonomiS]

"I am 17, I would like to illegally purchase this alcoholic beverage. Please acknowledge your willingness to perform this illegal transaction."

I can imagine Lemonking going in and reading that off a bit of paper.

-SimonomiS

 

[Hectic Glenn]

hehe thats indeed what would happen SimonomiS, then he'd soon reply with...

yeah you go **** yourself you ass

And that would win him his first bust, in the eye from the shop keeper with a baseball bat. Good job.

-Hectic Glenn

 

[Ennui]

goad is most certainly used in american english.

and don't do it.

 

[CookieCuttah]

hehe thats indeed what would happen SimonomiS, then he'd soon reply with...


And that would win him his first bust, in the eye from the shop keeper with a baseball bat. Good job.

-Hectic Glenn

First and last... Yeah but drinking laws are ridiculous. You can go kill people at 18 but not have a beer? Ridiculous.

 

[RakuraiTenjin]

21 is ridiculous so I say don't do it on moral grounds! Make a statement! Stick it to the man!

(that's a good point about the entrapment thing.

)

Hey it means we don't have a major chav problem alright?

I will privy myself to a few drinks sometimes but I fully support the 21 legal age. Generally it's more enforced as far as sales go than desperately searching for underage drinkers (except when driving which is good to stop that.)

 

[Reaktor4]

Hey it means we don't have a major chav problem alright?

does it?

 

[Dan]

How exactly would you be a decoy by doing this? You're not diverting someone's attention from anything. A better term would be mole, or snitch, or informant

 

[CyberPitz]

Do it. If I have to follow the law, so does everybody else.

 

[Raziaar]

I say do it. People shouldnt be selling alcohol to minors.

 

[RakuraiTenjin]

does it?

Yes it does. We definately don't have the rate of juvenile assault and such. Doesn't mean we aren't worse in other youth crime/etc areas but at least there we got that covered.

 

[Danimal]

It would be better to do it then just leave liquor stores selling alcohol to three year old kids with Insta-Old spray!



Insta-Old spray is a copy right of Munrofl industries. Copying this product would lead to extensive hours of reality TV. Bitch.

 

[Kyorisu]

Personally I think that the drinking age thing is more of a rite of initiation like hazing and that nonesense. It's a way for older people to say, yeah I had to put up with that crap. Now you have to too. It's a way for "adults" (I mean people who are 21-25. To justify that they are somehow better than "kids" (<21). "Yeah I can drink, you can't. I'm more mature than you. " I worked this summer in the states and the most humiliating thing is going to a bar with over 21 friends and getting marked with x's on your hand and being told to drink soda all night.

Even at a small local pub we were pretty much the only people there on Thursday night, and chatting with the owner, telling jokes and such. She was a nice woman. But she said even if she'd like to, she just can't even look the other way if someone buys me a drink because the law enforcement is so anal about that stuff that you can lose your business essentially if they walk in on that.

Hmm lets see now. 18-21 seems to be a time where many people would still be in school. So it seems to make sense that they can't get smashed off their heads during this time.

Anywhoo lol at America the restriction should be 18 like many other countries.