Should the DC sniper be put to Death?

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Death penalty for sniper Muhammad

A US judge has sentenced Washington sniper John Allen Muhammad to death for his role in the October 2002 killings.

The formal sentencing in Manassas, Virginia, came four months after a jury found the 42-year-old Army veteran guilty and recommended his execution.

Circuit Judge LeRoy Millette Jr said Muhammad's actions were "so vile that they were almost beyond comprehension".

Muhammad and his accomplice, Lee Boyd Malvo, shot dead 10 people in a three-week killing spree.

Their actions spread terror throughout the Washington area, leaving people afraid to go shopping or visit petrol stations because of the risk of attack.

The shootings were carried out from the back of a specially converted car.

No leniency

Judge Millette set the date of Muhammad's execution for 14 October, but correspondents say it is likely to be postponed to allow appeals.

If the death sentence is ultimately upheld, Muhammad will have to decide whether it is by lethal injection or by the electric chair.

Muhammad was convicted of the killing of Dean Meyers on 9 October 2002 and of murdering "at least one other person".

In court for the sentencing, he continued to deny that he was involved in the killings.

"Just like I said at the beginning, I had nothing to do with this, and I'll say again, I had nothing to do with this," he said.

Defence lawyers acting for Muhammad had argued for leniency, saying that his lack of a previous criminal background and the effect of an execution on his children should be taken into account.

Muhammad's accomplice, Malvo, was tried in a separate case and is due to be formally sentenced on Wednesday in the nearby town of Chesapeake.

The jury recommended that Malvo, 18, should face life in prison without parole.

The judge has no power to impose a harsher penalty, but Malvo could still be sentenced to death for other killings.
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Yes or no?
 
Absolutely. His crimes were far above and beyond what should be necessary for death. He's a disgusting human, and a terrorist.
 
No, i think they should let him free.
He would probably end up dead or tortured, if he is good enough he survives.
 
short recoil said:
No, i think they should let him free.
He would probably end up dead or tortured, if he is good enough he survives.
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What are you talking about?

And yes - they should be put to death.
 
CptStern said:
no, two wrongs dont make a right
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But it is opinion as to what is right and wrong.
Many people think putting him to death is right, many think it is wrong.
From your post i presume you object?
 
He should be shot with the same rifle he used on his victims.
 
CptStern said:
no, two wrongs dont make a right
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It's not wrong. Killing the innocent is wrong. Killing the guilty is not wrong.

The murderer is guilty and should be executed.
 
Yes, let's show him compassion and rehabilitate him.

Or not. This is just kind of rare case where I would advocate the death penalty. There are no mitigating circumstances. No doubt over his guilt.

The problem? It is stupidly slow and expensive to execute someone, even someone like this. You'd have to pour even more money into the system than you would sheltering him for the remainder of his life.
 
Edcrab said:
Yes, let's show him compassion and rehabilitate him.

Or not. This is just kind of rare case where I would advocate the death penalty. There are no mitigating circumstances. No doubt over his guilt.

The problem? It is stupidly slow and expensive to execute someone, even someone like this. You'd have to pour even more money into the system than you would sheltering him for the remainder of his life.
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Hence they should give him the punishment as i stated earlier.
Release him.
 
Put him in solitary confinement for life. That's a fate worse than death.
 
CptStern said:
no, two wrongs dont make a right
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Haha. Doesnt that go against the driving principle of your islamo-fascist butt buddies? "Oh he raped my daughter, better cut his johnson off". Of course, it makes sense when Americas enemies do it :LOL:
 
Pfft, I've never been bothered about punishment when considering unrepentant offenders beyond rehabilitation- merely prevention. If the death penalty just involved a large gun and a middle-paid executioner it would be the most viable option in this sort of case.

Hell, you want some horrible fate to make him pay? Lock him in a room and forget about him. He'll starve to death, and his corpse will be found in a pile of excrement, and it'll be cheap!

In case someone didn't notice, that was a horrible over-assertion of the punishment side of the argument- I don't actually advocate that. I just favor getting them out of the way for good- no chance of them ever repaying their debt to society.

Thieves? Yep, can easily renumerate what they've stolen. Generic violent thugs? Even then they can do something constructive to make up for their pointless attacks and intimidation.

Mass murderers? Not so sure. I'd be "happy" if he gets a genuine life sentence mind- not a cop out twenty years- it's just that in an ideal world we could cheaply and humanely dispose of him.

Actually, in an ideal world he wouldn't have existed, so discount that last remark...
 
Kill him. I don't care how, but just do it.

Why would we want this person around? What can he possibly do to "repay his debt to society?" You pro-life people say there is no way to pay for a human life, than why do you want him to live?
 
What can he possibly do to "repay his debt to society?"
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How about rotting in jail for the rest of his miserable life, uncared for, unloved. To finally die an old man and be buried in an unmarked grave.
Death is an easy way out for murderers. Give them the future they deserve, no future, no hope.
 
baxter said:
How about rotting in jail for the rest of his miserable life, uncared for, unloved. To finally die an old man and be buried in an unmarked grave.
Death is an easy way out for murderers. Give them the future they deserve, no future, no hope.
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He wants to live though. And he'll end up being part of the prison community and just enclosed in the compound, cases of solitary confinement for life only really happen .. on death row- as they stay there until their execution date comes.
 
The only time a criminal should die for their crime, is when its as a direct consequence of their actions, not a punishment. So they might try blowing someone up, and end up vaporising themselves... Or being shot by someone they just tried to rob. But then its not a moral thing, its just as I say...a consequence. A reaction to the action.
 
Yes, they should put him to death. He should share the same fate as his victims. Unfortunately we don't use the electric chair anymore or firing squads. :sniper:

Besides, he's going to continue eating up tax payers money rotting in prison.
 
Just send him over to Iraq.

He shoots people there - noone cares.
He gets blown up - noone cares.

You Americans are really missing a trick here.
 
RakuraiTenjin said:
He wants to live though. And he'll end up being part of the prison community and just enclosed in the compound, cases of solitary confinement for life only really happen .. on death row- as they stay there until their execution date comes.
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Let him live. Imagine if you can everything in front of you and around you removed. No assess to anything you take for granted. I could at this moment in time get up from my PC , go for a pint, socialise, if I was really lucky get laid( I wish ) I take it for granted, it's my liberty. Remove my liberty and life is pointless. No future, no hope.. :p
 
RakuraiTenjin said:
It's not wrong. Killing the innocent is wrong. Killing the guilty is not wrong.

The murderer is guilty and should be executed.
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KebeanKFC said:
Kill him. I don't care how, but just do it.

Why would we want this person around? What can he possibly do to "repay his debt to society?" You pro-life people say there is no way to pay for a human life, than why do you want him to live?
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so then the 7 US soldiers that murdered Iraqi civilians and 2 fellow soldiers should be executed as well?

source


a murder is a murder right?
 
Oh boy.... bring in Iraq... do you ever give it up?

Yes if the two Americans shot the Iraqis and soldiers in cold blood, then they should get the death penalty. But from the source provided, it is unclear. I would have to listen to these soldiers, becuase i was not there. But in the case of the DC sniper, he was caught red-handed, there is no shred of proof to his innocence.
From the moment they enter the military, soldiers are trained to be killers. They march to slogans such as “What makes grass grow? Blood, blood, bright red blood.”
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No shit sherlock! Is this guy just stupid? Of course people in the military are trained to kill, that would be the point. It just cracks me up. What should we have? A pacifist military?
 
they were sentenced to 3 years and 1 year in jail respectively ....on only one of the murders ...the other 5 are facing murder charges but are expected to get off lightly ...except of course the 2 US soldiers that murdered 2 fellow soldiers ...I'm sure they'll get something much more severe
 
Again, depending on the circumstances, they should get the death penalty.
 
short recoil said:
No, i think they should let him free.
He would probably end up dead or tortured, if he is good enough he survives.
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I'm sure someone's already mentioned this, but: That's one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard. This week.
 
el Chi said:
I'm sure someone's already mentioned this, but: That's one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard. This week.
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A woo ga!
 
No.
Death is too lenient a punishment. The only reason I am against the death penalty is because I believe letting a criminal rot in prison for the rest of his life is a harsher punishment than death.
 
Kebean PFC said:
Again, depending on the circumstances, they should get the death penalty.
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"Romriell has exposed two other incidents that took place just over a week later, on August 28, also in Sadr City.

In the first, Williams and his men entered a home of an Iraqi man and discovered an AK-47 rifle. According to a law authored by the American-backed regime in Iraq, each person is allowed to possess one AK-47. Nevertheless, Williams ordered the man, who was handcuffed and kneeling outside the house, to be taken inside. Soldiers involved in the incident testified that Williams removed the handcuffs, declaring, “I feel my life has been threatened,” and shot the man in the head. After being told that the man was still alive, he said, “I’ll take care of it,” and shot him again."


btw Romriell was a soldier who witnessed it and reported what he saw
 
Tr0n said:
A woo ga!
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Being from' Bama, you won't know the hilarity that is Kriss Akabusi. SpongeBob'll be back, but for the time being...


On topic - gh0st called the Sniper a "terrorist" in his first post. Is this a substantiated claim or a broadbruch nonsense statement?
 
CptStern said:
so then the 7 US soldiers that murdered Iraqi civilians and 2 fellow soldiers should be executed as well?

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a murder is a murder right?
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Yes. They'd also get charged with treason, too, as it goes beyond murder into aiding the enemy with that situation- but that carries the same sentence anyway. (I didn't read the article, took your word for it being murder, but if there are circumstances in that where they weren't premeditating murder or friendly fire accident, that's not what I mean)

el Chi said:
On topic - gh0st called the Sniper a "terrorist" in his first post. Is this a substantiated claim or a broadbruch nonsense statement?
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Er, you don't have to be fighting in the name of fundamentalist Islam or simply use explosives to be a terrorist. You have to be planning/operating a campaign of harming -any- people in an area in order to create panic/chaos/death.
 
RakuraiTenjin said:
Yes. They'd also get charged with treason, too, as it goes beyond murder into aiding the enemy with that situation- but that carries the same sentence anyway. (I didn't read the article, took your word for it being murder, but if there are circumstances in that where they weren't premeditating murder or friendly fire accident, that's not what I mean)
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treason? who? the 2 soldiers who killed the other 2 soldiers? they'll be tried for murder not treason ..the only 2 soldiers sentenced thus far received 3 and 1 years respectively for murdering an iraqi teen
 
I'd have to say no to the death penalty.

What I'd like to know is what possessed this man (and his accomplace) to take part in these brutal acts. Is it possible that this is from some sort of psychological trauma from battle? A mental illness?

I'd like to find out why this guy had to resort to these assassinations so that this type of behaviour can be treated better in the future. Wouldn't that be more valuable in the long-run?
 
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