Should the DC sniper be put to Death?

[Pericolos0]

i like to put myself morally superior to the killer and say no to death penalty

 

[Lemonking]

no, two wrongs dont make a right

its about paying he has to be pay with his life cuz he stole many other lifes

 

[Lemonking]

so then the 7 US soldiers that murdered Iraqi civilians and 2 fellow soldiers should be executed as well?

source


a murder is a murder right?

damn stern this has nothing to do with this topic
Iraq is a ****in warzone jeez man u really bug me sometimes with ur crap :frown:

 

[The Monkey]

No. 10 murders have already been committed. The US government should not commit the 11th.

 

[kirovman]

I want to know how a state sponsored killing is any different from murder.

At the end of the day, it's one or more humans deciding another should die, for whatever the severity of the reason.

What's wrong with them spending their life in jail to think about what they've done?

If you execute them, their problem ends there and then, but it doesn't bring back the victims.

 

[Absinthe]

damn stern this has nothing to do with this topic

Contrary to what you may think, it was gh0st's Islamo-Fascist comment that kicked off this derailing.

 

[CptStern]

damn stern this has nothing to do with this topic
Iraq is a ****in warzone jeez man u really bug me sometimes with ur crap :frown:

then dont read it, simple as that


and it has EVERYTHING to do with this topic ..it's hypocrisy to scream for the execution of one murder suspect and turn a blind eye to another just because he happens to be a US soldier

 

[el Chi]

Er, you don't have to be fighting in the name of fundamentalist Islam or simply use explosives to be a terrorist. You have to be planning/operating a campaign of harming -any- people in an area in order to create panic/chaos/death.

Generally - if not all the time - "terrorists" have poltical or ideological agendas. As far as I know, this man did not and I would've thought that rendered him in the category known affectionately as "violent crazies".

 

[kirovman]

Generally - if not all the time - "terrorists" have poltical or ideological agendas. As far as I know, this man did not and I would've thought that rendered him in the category known affectionately as "violent crazies".

Terrorist is the new widely thrown about buzzword, before it was commies, before that witchcraft.

It won't be long before the political parties are calling their opponents terrorists.

"You want to lower taxes? TERRORIST!"
"Booooo hisss! Burn the scum!"

"Officer! A terrorist broke into my house earlier and nicked my DVD player!"

"Your honour, this terrorist molested my children. Despite the fact I was stupid enough to leave my child at his Neverland ranch, M'Lord".

 

[el Chi]

Terrorist is the new widely thrown about buzzword, before it was commies, before that witchcraft.

You forgot "un-American". Ugh.

 

[gh0st]

I withdraw my terrorist comment, it wasent appropriate. See definition

adj : characteristic of someone who employs terrorism (especially as a political weapon); "terrorist activity"; "terrorist state" n : a radical who employs terror as a political weapon; usually organizes with other terrorists in small cells; often uses religion as a cover for terrorist activities

Everything else in what I said was utterly correct though.

 

[Lemonking]

then dont read it, simple as that


and it has EVERYTHING to do with this topic ..it's hypocrisy to scream for the execution of one murder suspect and turn a blind eye to another just because he happens to be a US soldier

*chokes stern
:flame:

 

[Kebean PFC]

Originally Posted by CptStern
then dont read it, simple as that


and it has EVERYTHING to do with this topic ..it's hypocrisy to scream for the execution of one murder suspect and turn a blind eye to another just because he happens to be a US soldier

You moron! We have not been turning a blind eye! Almost everyone here said death for the soldiers. Please don't pull that crap again. I support justice, maybe on a different level, but i still support it. You act as if we don't care. Stop your crap please.

The soldier that shot the teen in the first place should be punished, not the one who ended his life. He put that guy out of his misery, that is what i would ask. No medical aid could have saved him. Now that said, i wouldn't have shot him, but pulled out my morphine packet and ODed him. No pain, and he would have gone somewhat peacefully.

Probably gonna get BBQed for this post .

 

[CptStern]

You moron! We have not been turning a blind eye! Almost everyone here said death for the soldiers. Please don't pull that crap again. I support justice, maybe on a different level, but i still support it. You act as if we don't care. Stop your crap please.

The soldier that shot the teen in the first place should be punished, not the one who ended his life. He put that guy out of his misery, that is what i would ask. No medical aid could have saved him. Now that said, i wouldn't have shot him, but pulled out my morphine packet and ODed him. No pain, and he would have gone somewhat peacefully.

Probably gonna get BBQed for this post .

and so you should be...not because of your choice of words but rather because YOU DIDNT READ A FREAKIN WORD OF WHAT I POSTED!!!



the guys who were charged with killing the teen received 3 and 1 years in jail ...THAT"S IT ..3 years for murder ..oh and the mercy crap was bullshit ..read the goddam article before you shoot your mouth off.

 

[Kebean PFC]

I did read the article, and i unlike you am not sinking to personal insults.

You of all people should understand that SINCE I AM NOT A FREEKING JUDGE there is NOTHING I can do! We are agreeing with you goddammit!

 

[CptStern]

I did read the article, and i unlike you am not sinking to personal insults.

really?

You moron!

 

[Kebean PFC]

Couldn't even quote my name right... and you are so supierior to me.

Lets debate the issue not start a stupid flame war. Which seems to be what you are trying to do.

 

[Tr0n]

Couldn't even quote my name right... and you are so supierior to me.

Lets debate the issue not start a stupid flame war. Which seems to be what you are trying to do.

I think he did it on purpose...Kebean Kentucky Fried Chicken.

 

[kirovman]

You forgot "un-American". Ugh.

"The Democrats are Un-American! In light of these new circumstances, I hearby declare all opposition political parties illegal. Such is the will of Patriot Act 2.2 and the Lord Jesus Christ."

Anyway I agree with the point that governments could at least be consistent. Treat the US soldier who has killed with the same standards as this sniper. They've both commited the same kind of attrocity.

And I disagree with the death penalty, it is not a solution to the problem. Rotting in jail is a far worse punishment than death anyway. Gives you a few decades to reflect on your actions.

 

[Kebean PFC]

Still makes no sense... but whatever.

 

[PvtRyan]

Just lock him up and throw away the key. Don't see a reason to kill him, other than a feeling of revenge, which is by all standards medieval.

 

[oldagerocker]

I agree with PvtRyan. Life in the same 4 walls, seeing noone, is far worse a punishment than death, death is the easy way out.

 

[CptStern]

maybe they should look into people being discharged out of the military ...maybe give them a psychological examination before they're put back on the street. Anyways the guy is obviously sick ..killling him serves no purpose ..rehabilitation probably wont work ..so the only real alternative is life without chance of parole


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[Lemonking]

stern I give up ur like a big wall I never make a comment on ur posts again

 

[Kebean PFC]

maybe they should look into people being discharged out of the military ...maybe give them a psychological examination before they're put back on the street.

??? Why? These murders were committed in Iraq by one person with a pshycological problem. Why make everone else pay for this mans fualts??

 

[CptStern]

I was talking about the sniper guy Williams ...oh and the iraqi murder was one murder in about 4-5 that same day by the same battalion ..read the goddam article ..is it really too much to ask that you read something before discussing it?

 

[Danimal]

Put him in solitary confinement for life. That's a fate worse than death.

Agreed. (If he is guilty that is)

 

[Kebean PFC]

Stern, can you not fathom that i READ THE DAMN ARTICLE and chose to drawn different conclusions from it?

4-5 people out of an Army of what... couple 100 thousand?

 

[Bodacious]

Stern, can you not fathom that i READ THE DAMN ARTICLE and chose to drawn different conclusions from it?

4-5 people out of an Army of what... couple 100 thousand?

More like 500k acive and a couple of million inactive.

 

[CptStern]

Stern, can you not fathom that i READ THE DAMN ARTICLE and chose to drawn different conclusions from it?

4-5 people out of an Army of what... couple 100 thousand?

no, you didnt read the article ..how could you have reached a "different conclusion" after reading this?

"Romriell has exposed two other incidents that took place just over a week later, on August 28, also in Sadr City.

In the first, Williams and his men entered a home of an Iraqi man and discovered an AK-47 rifle. According to a law authored by the American-backed regime in Iraq, each person is allowed to possess one AK-47. Nevertheless, Williams ordered the man, who was handcuffed and kneeling outside the house, to be taken inside. Soldiers involved in the incident testified that Williams removed the handcuffs, declaring, “I feel my life has been threatened,” and shot the man in the head. After being told that the man was still alive, he said, “I’ll take care of it,” and shot him again."

 

[Kebean PFC]

It was ONE MAN! ONE MAN, I REPEAT, ONE MAN!!

This guy has some obvious psycological problems, but he does not represent the rest of the Army. Do you know how much a specialized Psyc problems.

When i say i can draw different conclusions, i mean that i see this was an isolated insident. The majority of the Army is not walking around shooting innocents. If it was then i would say that a better psyc test is needed. But when an isolated incident like this happens, you cannot turn around and apply it to every serviceman.

 

[CptStern]

It was ONE MAN! ONE MAN, I REPEAT, ONE MAN!!

This guy has some obvious psycological problems, but he does not represent the rest of the Army. Do you know how much a specialized Psyc problems.

When i say i can draw different conclusions, i mean that i see this was an isolated insident. The majority of the Army is not walking around shooting innocents. If it was then i would say that a better psyc test is needed. But when an isolated incident like this happens, you cannot turn around and apply it to every serviceman.

you're jumping to conclusions ..please point out where I said the "Army is walking around shooting innocents"

 

[bliink]

Topic please

 

[MarcoPollo]

Let's put him to a very seductive death. As long as you're gonna kill someone, you might as well make a movie out of it.

 

[shumlya4012]

don't generalize and put one man's face on the rest of the Army, he was a criminal and he should be persecuted, i wanna see him rotte in jail, i'm against executions

 

[Kebean PFC]

Stern you just implied by stateing that "everyone in the Army should undergo pysc tests."

The DC sniper should die, i wouldn't want him to live in our cushy jails until he dies peacefully. This BS about the "cost of execution" is bullcrap, use his rifle and ammo and shoot him. It would just as painless and effective as lethal injection.

Again I ask all you pro-life people this question:

Why would we want this person around? What can he possibly do to "repay his debt to society?" You pro-life people say there is no way to pay for a human life, than why do you want him to live?

Why do you want him to live, eat our food, drink our water, use your money!

 

[kmack]

Stern you just implied by stateing that "everyone in the Army should undergo pysc tests."

The DC sniper should die, i wouldn't want him to live in our cushy jails until he dies peacefully. This BS about the "cost of execution" is bullcrap, use his rifle and ammo and shoot him. It would just as painless and effective as lethal injection.

he should die and probably will. prison for people like him is not cushy, that is the biggest misconception people have, supermax level prisons are about as close to death as you can come, a lifetime there is more punishment than death (look at micheal ross, who i might add, was almost killed several time by the general inmate population in the "cushy" prison).

Again I ask all you pro-life people this question:


Why do you want him to live, eat our food, drink our water, use your money!

because they are pro life

 

[A True Canadian]

I still don't see what's wrong with placing this man under scientific observation. Finding his true motives and narrowing it down to a source so this type of behaviour can be treated and prevented in the future. Wouldn't killing him be a waste in that we'll lose the potential for a unique scientific and psychological study (as this man is quite sick).

 

[Kebean PFC]

By cushy i mwan that you are kept at a healthy level. There is no real starvation, or other discomfort.

Keeping him as a scientific tool would be interesting, but fruitless. Right now there is no way to medically alter a persons brain without causing unforsee affects.