So apparently Rage is out tomorrow.

Me playing the start of the game with the texture fix in place (not running at 60fps cos of FRAPS):

 
Sweet vids. Looks like they atleast solved it.

Driver problems aside, I have to say this game looks gorgeous in motion. Maybe a bit too Borderlands' cartoony, but still looks amazing.

And id say they are bringing adjustable graphics settings (well they are working on it apparently).

We're currently working on an update that will allow you to more easily make configuration changes… should have more details on that shortly.
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http://kotaku.com/5847245/how-to-get-rage-to-run-on-your-pc-an-id-software-guide

Currently downloading the drivers now. Apparently they mess up the fix for the Battlefield 3 beta, but that finishes at the end of the weekend, and I have this and Dark Souls to play, so I wont be playing the beta again.
 
Did they really need to rush this game out, with all the driver issues and glitches?
 
What do you mean by rush? They spent like 4-5 years on the game.
 
Paulaner said:
I'm reading about bad graphical issues, needing emergency patches and immediate updates.
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The initial graphic corruption came from AMD's screw up with their drivers and Nvidia owners not being up to date with theirs. The texture popping is fixed with a .cfg file with a few commands in. Nothing that would indicate thay've rushed the game out, only that a texture streaming bug in certain hardware made it out at launch.
 
stemot said:
The initial graphic corruption came from AMD's screw up with their drivers and Nvidia owners not being up to date with theirs. The texture popping is fixed with a .cfg file with a few commands in. Nothing that would indicate thay've rushed the game out, only that a texture streaming bug in certain hardware made it out at launch.
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Call me naive but, in my opinion, these issues mean a very bad quality assurance department.
 
Paulaner said:
Call me naive but, in my opinion, these issues mean a very bad quality assurance department.
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Maybe so, or that they were entirely console focused but either way a few cfg commands aren't the big deal the gaming media seem to be making out of all of this.
 
Well, decrypted the Rage files this morning.

Fire it up.

Skip the DX install as that always takes forever in Steam for some reason.

Jesus. Pop-in like crazy. Getting a rofl 20fps. Hell I was getting 40-60 fps in the Battlefield 3 beta! And frigging 35-40 outside!

Realise I forgot to install new drivers, the 144mb ones, DOH! Install those without uninstalling the others (as, from my experience, that's never actually required...this may be the first time I will though in years). Restart.

Force Vsync on in the CCC and enable triple buffering.

Still loads of pop-in and now getting 24fps. Wow. Aha, I literally laughed out loud at how bad this was. TExture pop-in, black tears on the ground, colours look un-saturated.

***k me.

At work now looking up the fixes. Might re-install the drivers properly, update my DX and try again. Unless the ones I downloaded are the ones AMD said have old OpenGL files in them so dont download them. I dunno, got a link from a site and it may be the wrong ones.

Still shocked at the performance. Yes its a laptop but I still get The Witcher 2, BF3, Dead Island, Crysis 2 etc all running around and above 40 fps at max settings at 1680x1050.
 
stemot said:
either way a few cfg commands aren't the big deal the gaming media seem to be making out of all of this.
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Yes, because everyone who plays video games on computers is familiar enough with editing scripts/code to know how to, and feel safe editing files for their software they paid sixty dollars for.

I think you've spent too much time on the internet. The developer should have released a playable game, and not forced their customers to finish the developer's own ****ing work in order to use software the devs were paid to make. I'm going to start a restaurant where I deliver uncooked pizzas and charge the same amount as if it were cooked. I'll call it Stemot's Pizzaria, and I'll have a specialty pizza called the Id, where I deliver the uncooked pizza without sauce and instead give them a jar of it so they can spread it themselves.
 
Krynn72 said:
Yes, because everyone who plays video games on computers is familiar enough with editing scripts/code to know how to, and feel safe editing files for their software they paid sixty dollars for.

I think you've spent too much time on the internet. The developer should have released a playable game, and not forced their customers to finish the developer's own ****ing work in order to use software the devs were paid to make. I'm going to start a restaurant where I deliver uncooked pizzas and charge the same amount as if it were cooked. I'll call it Stemot's Pizzaria, and I'll have a specialty pizza called the Id, where I deliver the uncooked pizza without sauce and instead give them a jar of it so they can spread it themselves.
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Woah, hang on a minute. I never said it was acceptable to have these issues out the door, only that the fix is a minor one. Editing script/code? Really? Adding a config file with 4 lines is considered to much for a PC owner? Considering how many problems other games have on release (Fallout New Vegas, Dead Island, Black OPs, Arma/2 etc) you're getting upset over updating drivers and a .cfg file, basics any PC gamer should now how to deal with. Get a grip.
 
I've got a Nvidia 560 ti, latest drivers and am getting frequent screen tearing and pop ins.
 
Wow, tried the cfg file fix and the game is smooth smooth smooth at last.

FusedCore should be knighted by id for doing what they couldnt. So much for Carmack.

http://forums.steamgames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2156747

Follow and enjoy.

You dont need to force anything in your settings, FusedCore has edited everything for that. Just change some of the multisampling figures etc from their max numbers to, say, 4 and then try it. If it works, re-edit the file in notepad and up the number and try again, rinse and repeat.

All you need to do is create 1 file in the sp data folder, copy that into the mp data folder as well, then create a folder in user/appdata/ called ''id software'' (note the space) and then in that create a new folder called ''rage''. And that's it. 3 things to fix id's incompetence for PC.

Just ensure you have the 'view hidden files' when searching for the AppData folder. That one stumped me.

And when you create the text folder to paste the config details in, leave it named as ''new text file'' or whatever, paste in the config list from the thread whichever settings you chose (High, medium ect) and you can leave the quotes and writing in, then go file, save as, name it rageConfig.cfg (case sensitive), save as ''All Files''. Otherwise you can potentially create a file called rageConfig.cfg.txt which wont work.

It's a REALLY simple fix that completely changes the way the game looks and runs.

Now they just need to release the high texture pack, as some of these textures up close are laughable.
 
Krynn72 said:
I'm going to start a restaurant where I deliver uncooked pizzas and charge the same amount as if it were cooked.
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pizza-back.jpg


Too late and the pizzas are awesome.

...Just being an ass, obviously your point is right. Also Papa Murphy's don't deliver.
 
stemot said:
Considering how many problems other games have on release (Fallout New Vegas, Dead Island, Black OPs, Arma/2 etc)
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Naw you didn't bud.

Arma 2 was poorly optimized upon release, but it ran. And BIS didn't expect users to do anything to fix their problems. BIS fixed it themselves, and they have some of the best ongoing, relentless product support I've ever seen.
 
Except it didn't really run for me (and many others) at all. In fact, it was far less playable than Rage in my case - haha. I'm pretty sure he's more than allowed to say that, Mr. White Knight.
 
You didn't even buy the game. How can you state how it ran for you?

Vegeta897 said:
And BIS didn't expect users to do anything to fix their problems. BIS fixed it themselves, and they have some of the best ongoing, relentless product support I've ever seen.
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Vegeta897 said:
Naw you didn't bud.

Arma 2 was poorly optimized upon release, but it ran. And BIS didn't expect users to do anything to fix their problems. BIS fixed it themselves, and they have some of the best ongoing, relentless product support I've ever seen.
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It ran for you dude, doesn't mean everybody were as lucky as you. The game had problems for people on launch, that's the point I was making. Besides, Bethesda have said they are on the case of restoring the graphics settings to the PC version and fixing the texture pop in. AMD are fixing their drivers. I understand peoples anger at AMD's drivers not working properly for whatever reason but people are singling out Rage because it has a few bugs (which can be fixed easily by the user in a lot of cases) when almost every PC game that comes along at the minute has them at launch (even PC exclusives like The Witcher 2 and Red Orchestra 2). I guess it doesn't count if it's a game you like huh? There is no excuse for a game to ship with bugs but it happens, and many of the game bugs here can be temporarily fixed until it's officially patched.
 
Point taken.

I admit I didn't really read much about this issue, but of course I never meant to say that a game shouldn't have problems on release. I thought everyone was angry because the developers expected people to fix game files and whatnot themselves, instead of releasing a hotfix or something.
 
Been playing it a bit on the PC, enjoying it, even though I haven't done much more than I did at the EG Expo. Getting a lot of textures popping in and out to say hi, not going to worry about getting fixes myself until next week when I have my new build PC set up.
 
stemot said:
It ran for you dude, doesn't mean everybody were as lucky as you. The game had problems for people on launch, that's the point I was making. Besides, Bethesda have said they are on the case of restoring the graphics settings to the PC version and fixing the texture pop in. AMD are fixing their drivers. I understand peoples anger at AMD's drivers not working properly for whatever reason but people are singling out Rage because it has a few bugs (which can be fixed easily by the user in a lot of cases) when almost every PC game that comes along at the minute has them at launch (even PC exclusives like The Witcher 2 and Red Orchestra 2). I guess it doesn't count if it's a game you like huh? There is no excuse for a game to ship with bugs but it happens, and many of the game bugs here can be temporarily fixed until it's officially patched.
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I guess its just a trend we have to get used to.

Consoles are clearly the focus for devs as that's where the money is. Im just surprised id sold out so quick. Then again, the Bethesda whip was probably keeping them all Oliver Twist.
 
Dynasty said:
I guess its just a trend we have to get used to.

Consoles are clearly the focus for devs as that's where the money is. Im just surprised id sold out so quick. Then again, the Bethesda whip was probably keeping them all Oliver Twist.
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I watched a machinima series about ID and if what they say in it is true then I can kind of see why they went the big publisher route. It says they were finding it hard to keep developing new tech and games based on that tech in a timely fashion with such a small independent studio. Whether that's true or not I'm not sure but it makes sense.
 
stemot said:
you're getting upset over updating drivers and a .cfg file, basics any PC gamer should now how to deal with. Get a grip.
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If you seriously think all PC gamers even know what a .cfg file even is then you've not only lost your grip, but you're free-falling from the ****ing stratosphere. You've clearly hung out on the internet with other enthusiasts and have begun assuming that all the people who play computer games are like you.

Its shit like being forced to edit .ini or .cfg files that makes people flock to consoles, because most people don't know how to do it or what it even means.
 
I forgot that they got rid of the cap filter.
 
Krynn72 said:
If you seriously think all PC gamers even know what a .cfg file even is then you've not only lost your grip, but you're free-falling from the ****ing stratosphere. You've clearly hung out on the internet with other enthusiasts and have begun assuming that all the people who play computer games are like you.

Its shit like being forced to edit .ini or .cfg files that makes people flock to consoles, because most people don't know how to do it or what it even means.
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Seriously, if you think the kind of person who plays top of the line games and can tell the difference between an ATI and Nvidia card can't change a .cfg file then it's you who's, once again, full of shit. I would agree if it was your average joe playing facebook or browser games but anyone who plays high performance games is going to know about these things, or at least be able to do these things with instructions. Your overreactions to a simple file are incredibly amusing and you still didn't address the fact that other games had worse issues at launch but hey, I guess you didn't play them because you only play games by perfect developers who get it right first, every time. Am I right? It's a temp workaround until the patch hits, get over it. People can't do it, they wait for the patch. Simple. Oh and I guess they won't be able to grab the new AMD driver containing fixes either seeing as how people don't know how to do this, still running their 3 year old drivers they got with their cards. Damn ATI, don't you know PC gamers don't know how to update drivers you monsters!

Temp solution for people who know what they are doing before the patch comes. Games have bugs. Deal with it.
 
I've set up the custom config Dynasty posted and everything...

So...vsync off, horrific tearing - the likes of which I've never seen, anywhere, ever. Vsync on, horrific microstuttering which makes the game all but unplayable. *sigh*
 
Another game waiting for the Christmas sale, fully patched and for a lower price.
 
Finished it in 9 hours, (I did all the races in wellspring and a few in Subway town, and a few side missions).

Other than the graphical problems, my only other gripes were that the melee system doesn't seem to connect very well and the endgame is a bit lame.

I played it on normal and found the game got very easy when you started to have money.

I also end up playing almost the entire game with a 360 controller as I hated driving with a keyboard and mouse.
 
PC Version has it's first patch:-

RAGE Patch Release Notes - October 8th 2011
-------------------------------------------

RAGE defaults to lower video settings to allow the game to work on a
wide variety of hardware and software configurations.
Unfortunately, it is not possible to anticipate all possible graphics
driver issues in combination with unique end user hardware and software
configurations. For this reason RAGE does not automatically increase
video/graphics settings as this could result in negative side effects
on specific hardware and software configurations. The original release
of RAGE does not expose many video/graphics options for people to tweak
because some of these settings, although desirable from a quality
perspective, simply will not work on specific configurations either due
to hardware limitations and/or driver bugs. Due to popular demand for
more video and graphics options, this patch updates the video settings
menu and exposes several quality and performance settings. However, not
everyone may be able to increase the settings due to hardware limitations
and/or driver bugs.


VSync
-----

The new "VSync" option in the video settings menu allows you to remove
screen tearing. There are three options: ON, OFF and SMART.

When VSync is turned OFF you may experience screen tearing.

When VSync is turned ON you should not see screen tearing. However,
any time your frame rate drops below 60 frames per second you will
get a sudden more severe drop to 30 frames per second. This is how VSync
inherently works. If your computer cannot maintain 60 frames per
second and you miss the synchronization to the vertical retrace of
your monitor then you will miss a whole frame and synchronize to
the next frame instead.

Some graphics drivers now support a so called "swap-tear" extension.
You can try using this extension by setting VSync to SMART.
If your graphics driver supports this extension and you set VSync
to SMART then RAGE will synchronize to the vertical retrace of
your monitor when your computer is able to maintain 60 frames per
second and the screen may tear if your frame rate drops below 60 frames
per second. In other words the SMART VSync option trades a sudden drop
to 30 frames per second with occasional screen tearing. Occasional
screen tearing is usually considered less distracting than a more
severe drop in frame rate.

If your graphics driver does not support SMART VSync and you set VSync
to SMART in the video settings then RAGE will automatically fall back to
turning VSync OFF and you may experience screen tearing. The "swap-tear"
extension is brand new and may still present some issues on certain
graphics hardware. If you experience any problems using SMART Vsync
then set VSync to either ON or OFF. We are actively working with the
graphics hardware vendors to improve the "swap-tear" extension.

If changing VSync in the RAGE video settings menu does not appear to
make any difference then make sure you are not overriding the VSync
setting in the graphics vendor control panel. You can find the
graphics vendor control panel by right-clicking on the Windows desktop
and selecting the " control panel" option from the pop-up menu.

If you force VSync to the 'on' setting in the graphics vendor control
panel then you should not see any screen tearing in RAGE but you may
get a more severe drop in frame rate if your computer cannot maintain
60 frames per second.

If you force VSync to the 'off' setting in the graphics vendor control
panel then you may experience screen tearing no matter what setting you
use for the VSync option in the RAGE video settings menu.


Texture Cache
-------------

The new "Texture Cache" option in the video settings menu allows you
to increase the texture cache size to keep more texture data in
video memory.

If the Texture Cache is set to LARGE then RAGE will keep more texture
data in video memory. This may not only significantly reduce blurry
textures and texture popping, it will also allow complex scenes to be
rendered with more texture detail.

However, this may not work on computers that do not have enough system
or video memory, or you may experience a significant drop in performance.
If you experience issues due to hardware limitations you will have to set
the Texture Cache back to SMALL.

If after changing the Texture Cache to LARGE you experience a crash or
texture corruption (like a partially or completely blue world) then
the graphics driver may have run out of memory.

We are actively working with the graphics card vendors to resolve
any crashes.

If you do not experience a crash but you see texture corruption then you
may be able to get the large Texture Cache to work by accepting the change
and restarting the game. If you still experience texture corruption after
restarting the game you will have to set the Texture Cache back to SMALL.

You may also be able to improve the memory situation on your computer by
changing the Windows paging file management. Note that making changes to
the Windows paging file management may change the performance characteristics
of your computer. Any changes you make to your system configuration are
at your own risk. Always make backups of your system and revert these
changes if you notice undesirable side effects.

To change the paging file management on Windows Vista and Windows 7, first
press the "Start" button, then right-click on "Computer" and then select
"Properties" from the popup menu. Then select "Advanced system settings"
on the window that appears. Select the "Advanced" tab on the
"System Properties" window that is displayed and press the "Settings"
button under "Performance". Select the "Advanced" tab on the
"Performance Options" window that shows up next and press the
"Change..." button under "Virtual memory". Now uncheck the option
"Automatically manage paging file size for all drives" and make
sure that the option "System managed size" is selected on the
"Virtual Memory" window. Confirm the change by pressing the "OK" button
on each window. After making this change you will have to restart your
computer for the change to take effect.

To change the paging file management on Windows XP, first press the
"Start" button, then right-click on "My Computer" and then select
"Properties" from the popup menu. Select the "Advanced" tab on the
"System Properties" window that is displayed and press the "Settings"
button under "Performance". Select the "Advanced" tab on the
"Performance Options" window that shows up next and press the "Change"
button under "Virtual memory". Make sure that the option
"System managed size" is selected on the "Virtual Memory" window.
Confirm the change by pressing the "OK" button on each window.
After making this change you will have to restart your computer for
the change to take effect.


Anisotropic Filter
------------------

The new "Anisotropic Filter" option in the video settings menu allows
you to increase the anisotropic texture filtering.

Anisotropic filtering is a method to enhance the image quality of
textures on surfaces that are at oblique viewing angles.

The anisotropic texture filtering in RAGE defaults to a low value to
accommodate for low-end graphics hardware. However, the anisotropic
filtering can be increased for high-end graphics hardware by setting
the Anistropic Filter option to HIGH in the video settings menu.

Do not force anisotropic filtering to the ‘on’ setting in the graphics
vendor control panel because this may cause rendering artifacts in
the game.

Note that increasing the anisotropic filtering may improve the
texture quality while it may also decrease the frame rate.


Patch Changes / Fixes
---------------------

- Implemented workaround for AMD driver crash right after intro cinematic
on Win 7 32-bit systems.
- Disabled UBOs because they are causing animation issues with AMD drivers.
- Don't allow swap-tear to be enabled on AMD while the extension is not
exposed because it may crash.
- Support for new video settings: "texture cache", "vsync" and
"anisotropic filter"
- Automatically adjust vt_maxPPF based on the number of available cores.
- Improved performance for SLI cards when GPU transcode is enabled.
- Fix for GPU Transcoding option being disabled after exiting gameplay.
- Added safe mode to restore video settings to default values.
- Allow g_fov to be changed from the RAGE launch options in Steam.
- Server now forwards text chat from clients to all other clients while
in-game.


Known Graphical Issues
----------------------

The following issues were found using NVIDIA graphics hardware with
the GeForce R285 Driver or AMD graphics hardware with the AMD Catalyst
11.10 Version 2 Preview Driver.


- If you turn up both the screen resolution and anti-aliasing settings
to high values in the video settings menu and/or you enable
"GPU Transcode" then the screen may no longer update on some hardware
configurations. This means your system does not have the necessary
video memory to run with these high settings. You can re-enter the video
settings menu and lower your settings to restart screen updates.

- If you turn up both the screen resolution and anti-aliasing settings
to high values in the video settings menu you may experience a crash
if your system does not have the necessary memory to run with these
high settings. To avoid this problem you will have to re-enter the
video settings menu to lower the settings. If you can no longer launch
the game after changing the video settings to high values you can add
the following to your RAGE launch options in Steam:

+com_safemode 1

The launch options can be found by right-clicking on RAGE in Steam
and selecting "Properties". Then click on "Set Launch Options" in
the dialog that pops up. Adding this option will reset your video
settings to the default values the next time the game is launched.
When the game is launched in safe mode the game will show "safe mode"
in the corners of the screen. Do not forget to remove the safe mode
launch option after launching the game once to make sure you do not
lose your video settings each time you launch the game.

- Using a NVIDIA graphics card on Windows XP 32-bit or XP 64-bit, you
may experience a crash or hang when changing the screen resolution in
full screen mode or switching from windowed mode to full screen mode.
This has been identified as a graphics driver problem. We have spent
significant effort trying to work around this problem and were
successful in reducing the frequency of occurrence but a driver update
is necessary to completely fix the problem. We are actively working with
NVIDIA to make a solution to this problem available as soon as possible.

- Using an AMD graphics card, you may experience black flickering
artifacts on flags, banners and zip-lines if you run in full screen
mode. This has been identified as a graphics driver problem. We are
actively working with AMD on a solution to this problem.

- Using an AMD graphics card, you may experience black grid lines on
some graphical user interface (GUI) elements like the in-game mini-map.
This has been identified as a graphics driver problem. We are actively
working with AMD on a solution to this problem. If you find the grid
lines particularly distracting, you can add the following to the RAGE
launch options in Steam as a temporary workaround.

+vt_maxAniso 1

The launch options can be found by right-clicking on RAGE in Steam
and selecting "Properties". Then click on "Set Launch Options" in
the dialog that pops up. However, note that adding this setting will
lower the general texture quality in the game.

- If you have an AMD graphics card with a dual core CPU system you may
experience severe hitching and low frame rates. This has been
identified as a driver problem. We are actively working with AMD on
a solution to this problem. As a temporary workaround you may add the
following to the RAGE launch options in Steam:

+jobs_numThreads 0

The launch options can be found by right-clicking on RAGE in Steam
and selecting "Properties". Then click on "Set Launch Options" in
the dialog that pops up.

- If you are running RAGE in full-screen mode and you ALT-TAB to a
different application you may lose your VSync setting. When you
switch to a different application VSync stops functioning.
RAGE detects that VSync is no longer working and automatically switches
back to synchronizing to real-time to make sure the game time advances
in a consistent manner. We are actively working with the graphics
vendors on a solution to this problem.
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