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I'm running out of money I'm living off the thrill of substances and all I do is throw up my set. There's no escape and I dunno if I'll live a lot longer and I just realized most of this tonight. Shit in the past couple days has me thinking and just after last night I'm lucky to be around.

Tomorrow I'm just going to take off at noon and come back at night I might go to Vegas or Phoenix or just drive until gas makes me turn back.

Who else drives aimlessly to clear their head?
 
He has little money...

survive on hotdogs! and you can drive one to pheonix!
 
I recomment you strike out into the great american nowhere in a manner reminiscent of famous novel On the Road.
 
Damn man, hope you can get that shit sorted.

Also, <3 bliink. Tails f*cking ROCKS :D
 
Now all we need is some Bliink-freak to have a Sonic avatar.
 
I never really understood her old avatar anyway
 
CptStern said:
what ever ails you it's nothing compared to this existance ..no matter how bad it gets there's always hope you'll rise above your current problems. Oh and running away from your problems wont make them go away
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If you run fast enough, and thus ensure yourself time to change your identity... once your problems catch up they won't recognize you, and will end up searching the globe for something it'll never find.
 
it's better to face your chain saw wielding maniac then run away from him ..he'll catch up anyway
 
I drive to clear my head. I wish gas wasn't expensive, I'd drive forever....(...)
 
True Stern, I always like to think of dying children when things have me down :p

Or, at the very least, they can say to themselves "well, it's not all bad, atleast someone, somewhere is using me as an inspirational comparison to their own life."



Yeeeah...
 
Comparing yourself to starving children is silly. That would mean if you're homeless, broke, a drug addict your life is still better than Mr Boney McStarving's life in Africa because "Hey! At least you don't have AIDS and you got water + food!".

No, your life really does suck then. You gotta put things in perspective. Your life sucks compared to the rest of society. Comparing yourself to a completely different situation is, well... apples and oranges.

Compared to starving children, I live like a king. Does that mean I should always feel content about my life? Hell no.
 
You know what? Being told "**** you, other people have it worse" is one of the worst things to be told when depressed. It drives you deeper, because you start dwelling on thoughts of how you're selfish for being depressed, which makes you feel like a shitty person.

So don't say it.

-Angry Lawyer
 
Angry Lawyer said:
You know what? Being told "**** you, other people have it worse" is one of the worst things to be told when depressed. It drives you deeper, because you start dwelling on thoughts of how you're selfish for being depressed, which makes you feel like a shitty person.

So don't say it.

-Angry Lawyer
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I agree wholeheartedly.
 
I like to go for a walk to clear my head, or a bath.
Try and change something drastic if you don't like how things are atm.
 
Exactly the point I was trying to make... in my own little way :)

But yeah... no offense intended Stern, just hate when people do that.
 
Danimal said:
Now all we need is some Bliink-freak to have a Sonic avatar.
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>_>

Man, taking LONG drives to clear the mind is just an awesome idea. It works most of the time for me, and is very calming. I suggest it to everybody who is having some sort of problem...I hope you get through it though, man.
 
RakuraiTenjin said:
I'm running out of money I'm living off the thrill of substances and all I do is throw up my set. There's no escape and I dunno if I'll live a lot longer and I just realized most of this tonight. Shit in the past couple days has me thinking and just after last night I'm lucky to be around.
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Stop doing drugs?
 
PvtRyan said:
Comparing yourself to starving children is silly. That would mean if you're homeless, broke, a drug addict your life is still better than Mr Boney McStarving's life in Africa because "Hey! At least you don't have AIDS and you got water + food!".

No, your life really does suck then. You gotta put things in perspective. Your life sucks compared to the rest of society. Comparing yourself to a completely different situation is, well... apples and oranges.

Compared to starving children, I live like a king. Does that mean I should always feel content about my life? Hell no.
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you're putting faaaar too much importance in the meaning behind my post ...the image is meant to conjure one single fact:

"at least I'm not as bad as him" ..it's completely selfish but it has a two pronged effect ..it shows you how meaningless everyday problems are when faced with someone who represents survival at it's pureset form and two it gives the person a sense of shame that they would fret over a mundane problem when's there's people out there who's every breath is a fight for survival
 
CptStern said:
you're putting faaaar too much importance in the meaning behind my post ...the image is meant to conjure one single fact:

"at least I'm not as bad as him" ..it's completely selfish but it has a two pronged effect ..it shows you how meaningless everyday problems are when faced with someone who represents survival at it's pureset form and two it gives the person a sense of shame that they would fret over a mundane problem when's there's people out there who's every breath is a fight for survival
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That would fit for, " Story of my ****ing life, they've run out of my favourate pack of ****ing buiscuits" but not for "My life has no direction".
 
you're just guessing ..for all we know he could be escaping anything under the sun ..there's also a distinct possibility that he's not really being literal in som eof the things he saying


oh and I've worked with the mentally handicapped ..in some cases their depression is more real that a dozen teenagers sucking down ritalin like it was freakin candy. When they're in a depressed state (which almost always was followed by violence) they need a jolt/sobering reminder to keep them from spiraling into further depression ...now I'm willing to bet there's at least one person reading this who's thinking to himself "did stern just call rakurai retarded?" ..the answer is ...no
 
Angry Lawyer said:
You know what? Being told "**** you, other people have it worse" is one of the worst things to be told when depressed. It drives you deeper, because you start dwelling on thoughts of how you're selfish for being depressed, which makes you feel like a shitty person.

So don't say it.

-Angry Lawyer
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QFT

People who say those kinds of things are far more detrimental to somebody's well-being if they're already in a shitty state.
 
I give up ..I dont know why I bother trying to explain legitimate crisis intervention methods that from experience I know works. The majority of you have already decided what my intent was ..I couldnt be bothered to try to change your minds
 
CptStern said:
"did stern just call rakurai retarded?" ..the answer is ...yes
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fixed. :p

Anywho... I agree with everyone else. Giving them a "sense of shame" on top of their depression isnt usually a good idea. Maybe in a few people's cases, but for the vast majority of the time... its not.
 
I'm preeetty sure what Stern was trying to say was "well, look on the bright side- at least you're not in that situation!" as opposed to "you should be ashamed of yourself for feeling bad when there are people like that out there."
 
CptStern said:
it gives the person a sense of shame that they would fret over a mundane problem when's there's people out there who's every breath is a fight for survival
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He said it himself.
 
crisis prevention intervention ..cold reality usually sobers someone one up rather quickly ..usually it has to be face to face ..since I cant do that on the internets ......


btw for shame guys ..rakurai could be reaching out here yet some of you would rather split hairs about what I may or may not have said/meant
 
No, cold reality is very likely to make them feel even worse. Feelings of depression are not rational. You can't tell somebody that others have it far worse and expect the person with a gun to his head to snap out of it and say "Gosh, you're right! What was I thinking?".

I'm not saying it's not valid, or that such intervention has no use ever. But I know it never worked for me. If you flashed pictures of starving children in front of my face while telling me to get a grip, it wouldn't be sobering. I'd feel even worse. To be honest, that kind of comparative method seems cheap compared to a strict focus on resolving the individual's problems.
 
I know it wasn't Sterns intention to hurt, but when you're depressed, you can't really see that people are trying to help you. It's like falling down a pit.

It's very much like "Plenty more fish in the sea" after your girlfriend/fiancue/wife splits with you. You don't think "yeah, you're right", you think "I don't WANT any other fish, I want her." It's not upset at not having a woman, it's upset about losing something special, something unique. Because every relationship is different.

There might be a point somewhere in there.

-Angry Lawyer
 
Absinthe is absolutely right. One of the bad things about depression is that you're not rational, like Absinthe said. You can't explain logical reasons as to why you shouldn't be depressed. It was hard for me to accept this fact when I was trying to help some people in the past but it's all too true.
 
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