"Social Security Will Go Broke in 1988" - Bush

[Bodacious]

No, the inspectors were still doing their assigned job when Bush told them to get out. Thats what I said That is blocking an investigation. What did you expect him to do? Start bombing with those guys still in there? That is like when a cop comes to search your house and half way through the job before anything is found the DA tells them to simply arrest you and stop the search. And again, Saddam did nothing to defy the inspectors in 02-03.

So we are supposed to trust saddam when he has a history of defying the weapons inspectors?



HOW? He didn't have what BUSH wanted (WMDs). We know that now and we didn't then did we? Again, are we supposed to trust Saddam after over a decade of defiance?


Then why did it list the names of companies outside the US? Because countries outside the US aren't subject to US laws rules and regulations. I will tell you why, to make it look like the countries that disagreed with the invasion were helping Saddam while Americans weren't.

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[CptStern]

bodacious stop it already ..either respond to his posts or ignore them all together, stop spamming

 

[No Limit]

Thats what I said That is blocking an investigation. What did you expect him to do? Start bombing with those guys still in there?

OMFG you are completely ignoring my questions. WHY DID BUSH GO IN TO IRAQ BEFORE THEY COULD FINISH THEIR JOB@!!!!! I expected Bush to let them finish their work before bombing them, why is that so complicated for you?

So we are supposed to trust saddam when he has a history of defying the weapons inspectors?

Show me one example of Saddam defying the inspectors in 02-03 for the 10000000000000th time, this isn't about the 90s. Bush went in to war in 03.

We know that now and we didn't then did we? Again, are we supposed to trust Saddam after over a decade of defiance?

The point is there was nothing Saddam could do to stop war even if he was fully complying with the UN because Bush didn't care if he did or didn't have WMDs, he simply wanted a regime change.

Because countries outside the US aren't subject to US laws rules and regulations.

If you don't list companies here but you list companies of only countries that disagreed with you you are spearding nothing more than propogenda.

 

[No Limit]

bodacious stop it already ..either respond to his posts or ignore them all together, stop spamming

You have to look in the quote, he bolds his response. I think it would be much easier for him to quote each part but whatever.

 

[No Limit]

bodacious stop it already ..either respond to his posts or ignore them all together, stop spamming

And my patience is running thin as he wont admit when he is wrong, I think you will have to take over soon or I'm going to put a bullet in my head.

 

[CptStern]

heh, patience ..I dont want to see anymore red numbers by your name

bodacious, my mistake on the spam thing ..but you could try making it a bit more legible

 

[Bodacious]

nope we can see the effects today right now ...march there was an average of 30 attacks a day, there is now 70-80 attacks on coalition forces ..how many will there be 2 months from now? 2 years from now? 2 decades from now ...like I said, all you have to do is look at palestine as an example

You just gotta have faith. Its not like the germans just let us march in and take them over without a fight. The japanese had to be nuked before they would give up.

you're still avoiding the question

OK



this is quite indicative of your state of mind

So what?

..what would you have said if it was 500,000 blond haired blue-eyed american children thrown away as if they mean nothing? No matter the colour of the skin, no matter the race if even one child suffers because of an ideal it is wrong. Bodacious I thought better of you ..now I'm not so sure

Depends on the circumstances. If my leader was being defiant according to the rest of the world the sacntions would be justified. Go ahead and lop me into the categoy that you put Allbrigh or Bush in. No skin off my back.


huh? what are you trying to say here? please just answer the question


Ok, I misinterpreted what you said here. again, so what? the US is a terrorist nation? We need to pay for their greivances? What do you want the US to do to make up for those lives list?


because it shows the length you'll go in protecting your countrymen ....you must realise that going down this hazardous road will only jeopordize your countrymen ..it's your sworn duty to protect them ..by willingly fighting in iraq you have betrayed them

Uh-huh


by targeting civilians? come on they KNEW saddam would just hole himself up in one of his palaces

Source?




but ...what would you call it then? disinformation? a little white lie? selective memory? read my lips:

"We have sources that tell us that Saddam Hussein recently authorized Iraqi field commanders to use chemical weapons "

were is the documentation supporting the fact that saddam used WMD on US troops

Intelligence failure

I hope you like your shorts, wont be too long now

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[Bodacious]

OMFG you are completely ignoring my questions. WHY DID BUSH GO IN TO IRAQ BEFORE THEY COULD FINISH THEIR JOB@!!!!! I expected Bush to let them finish their work before bombing them, why is that so complicated for you?

'Cause Bush was tired of Saddam's crap he was feeding the rest of the world.

Show me one example of Saddam defying the inspectors in 02-03 for the 10000000000000th time, this isn't about the 90s. Bush went in to war in 03.

Why does Saddam's defiance of the 90's not matter?

The point is there was nothing Saddam could do to stop war even if he was fully complying with the UN because Bush didn't care if he did or didn't have WMDs, he simply wanted a regime change.

Source?

If you don't list companies here but you list companies of only countries that disagreed with you you are spearding nothing more than propogenda.

That or other countries aren't subject to US laws. Considering your idea is a crackpot conspiracy theory I will go with my reason.

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[No Limit]

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Lol, if Stern doesn't lose his temper after that post he will officially be my new God.

 

[Bodacious]

You have to look in the quote, he bolds his response. I think it would be much easier for him to quote each part but whatever.

I am a lazy ass and that way is easier. I made the text blue so you could distinguish which is which. Sorry for the confusion.

 

[Bodacious]

Lol, if Stern doesn't lose his temper after that post he will officially be my new God.

:imu: :imu:

 

[No Limit]

'Cause Bush was tired of Saddam's crap he was feeding the rest of the world.

Lol, cop walks in to my house with a warrent and starts searching, after a couple hours he finds nothing so he says:

"No Limit, I am sick of your crap, you are coming with me"

I won't even address the rest of your post as it is just as idiotic as the example I quoted; I am too tired for this shit. Lets see how long Stern can last the bullshit.

 

[CptStern]

Originally Posted by CptStern
nope we can see the effects today right now ...march there was an average of 30 attacks a day, there is now 70-80 attacks on coalition forces ..how many will there be 2 months from now? 2 years from now? 2 decades from now ...like I said, all you have to do is look at palestine as an example

You just gotta have faith. Its not like the germans just let us march in and take them over without a fight. The japanese had to be nuked before they would give up.

you're still avoiding the question

OK



this is quite indicative of your state of mind

So what?

..what would you have said if it was 500,000 blond haired blue-eyed american children thrown away as if they mean nothing? No matter the colour of the skin, no matter the race if even one child suffers because of an ideal it is wrong. Bodacious I thought better of you ..now I'm not so sure

Depends on the circumstances. If my leader was being defiant according to the rest of the world the sacntions would be justified. Go ahead and lop me into the categoy that you put Allbrigh or Bush in. No skin off my back.


huh? what are you trying to say here? please just answer the question


Ok, I misinterpreted what you said here. again, so what? the US is a terrorist nation? We need to pay for their greivances? What do you want the US to do to make up for those lives list?


because it shows the length you'll go in protecting your countrymen ....you must realise that going down this hazardous road will only jeopordize your countrymen ..it's your sworn duty to protect them ..by willingly fighting in iraq you have betrayed them

Uh-huh


by targeting civilians? come on they KNEW saddam would just hole himself up in one of his palaces

Source?




but ...what would you call it then? disinformation? a little white lie? selective memory? read my lips:

"We have sources that tell us that Saddam Hussein recently authorized Iraqi field commanders to use chemical weapons "

were is the documentation supporting the fact that saddam used WMD on US troops

Intelligence failure

I hope you like your shorts, wont be too long now



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could you please not do this ..it makes it that much harder to respond to ..I'll respond when I get a chance

 

[CptStern]

Lol, if Stern doesn't lose his temper after that post he will officially be my new God.

hehe BOW down before me!!!

 

[Bodacious]

could you please not do this ..it makes it that much harder to respond to ..I'll respond when I get a chance

I am not going to bend over backwards so it is more convenient for you. If you can't handle my laziness then don't reply.

 

[CptStern]

that's probably what you're hoping for ..I DID notice how selective you are at answering my questions ..like I said, I'll answer when I get a chance

 

[Eg.]

now hold on, im not say i hate spam, but is what stern doing spam? it has nothing to do with the topic, it adds nothing. im not pointing this out because i dont like him, im pretty loose with spam. its just that it seems that cough*neo cons cough cough get choosen for spam points more so than liberals. im not saying im against sterns post, but why do i get points and he doesnt?

im not saying he should get points, i just asking why in general

 

[Bodacious]

Lol, cop walks in to my house with a warrent and starts searching, after a couple hours he finds nothing so he says:

"No Limit, I am sick of your crap, you are coming with me"

I won't even address the rest of your post as it is just as idiotic as the example I quoted; I am too tired for this shit. Lets see how long Stern can last the bullshit.

That is an incomplete example, thought. It doesn't take into account saddam's previous defiance.

 

[No Limit]

That is an incomplete example, thought. It doesn't take into account saddam's previous defiance.

Ok how is this, I comit a crime 10 years ago, cop comes into my house with warrent, doesn't find anything, and says "No Limit, I am sick of your shit, you are coming with me". Happy now?

I think I know what the problem is, you aren't drawing a picture in your head. Here, this should help (look at attachment). I did it just for you.

 

[Bodacious]

Ok how is this, I comit a crime 10 years ago, and even more crimes throught the next decade cop comes into my house with warrent, doesn't find anything, and says "No Limit, I am sick of your shit, you are coming with me". Happy now?

Fixed.

The example is still flawed, even with my additions. This is because it makes the assumption that international decisions are made under the same criteria that the arrests of individials are made. No individual would agree that being arrested without reason is lawful. But that doesn't apply to international decisions. Ther are a great number of factors involved in the bigger decisions than are the smaller ones.

 

[Eg.]

im not going to let this turn into another war thread, my fingertips hurt.

so how will helping the californian economy help the rest of the naion? the enron scandal drained the states treasury, and illegal immagrants are depriving american citizens from attaining jobs, how do we fix this?

 

[No Limit]

Fixed.

The example is still flawed, even with my additions. This is because it makes the assumption that international decisions are made under the same criteria that the arrests of individials are made. No individual would agree that being arrested without reason is lawful. But that doesn't apply to international decisions. Ther are a great number of factors involved in the bigger decisions than are the smaller ones.

You just said the bombng of Iraq was without reason, didn't you? Maybe that picture did help.

 

[Bodacious]

You just said the bombng of Iraq was without reason, didn't you? Maybe that picture did help.

No, I didn't say that.

 

[CptStern]

You just gotta have faith. Its not like the germans just let us march in and take them over without a fight. The japanese had to be nuked before they would give up.

you dont seem to understand ..they will never accept your brand of democracy ..they see it to be a sham, Iraqis hate Allawi as much as they hate their occupiers

OK [I said: you're still avoiding the issue]

see this is how a debate works ..you present your case I present mine, we both argue the validity of the evidence presented ...each point is decided by who's evidence is more compelling. The other person then concedes and we move on to the next point ..it's realy not that hard to follow

So what?

see above

Depends on the circumstances. If my leader was being defiant according to the rest of the world the sacntions would be justified. Go ahead and lop me into the categoy that you put Allbrigh or Bush in. No skin off my back.

how are they responsible for what their leader does? ...ummm tyanny remember??

Ok, I misinterpreted what you said here. again, so what? the US is a terrorist nation? We need to pay for their greivances? What do you want the US to do to make up for those lives list?

welllll ...you do support terrorism when it suits you ..anyways that's not the point. You shouldnt have been there in the first place ..I have no doubt I'll be saying the same thing about Iran, syria, NK etc etc

Uh-huh

the text version of sticking your fingers in your ears and babbling loudly

Source?

do you really need a source? what else was he going to do? stroll in amongst his fellow countrymen, enthusiastically shouldering the responsibilty of feeding the good people of iraq? ..hello! tyrant, remember?

Intelligence failure

oh come on that's one big whopper! how could they have gotten so many things wrong? are you that incompetant? you'd think that after 9/11 a ton of resources would be thrown into Intelligence ..what about all the photos the emphatic speeches that droned ....ahhhh, screw it, you'll just end up saying "uh-huh" anyways

 

[Javert]

Sorry, I didn't read the whole thread. But Iraq? Kerry? I thought the title was Social Security??
*confuzorzed.*