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The Freeman
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ok whit the recent appearance of chavez and the whole bush devil incident I will post some facts that happened and are happening
dont think that here we all love chavez and there is plenty of reason to count that
first the whole situation hav been worse since his presidency
the most recent is the laws that makes that any media (radio,tv...) that show something anti-goverment hav to paid a very expensive fine,and other more censorship
and more stuff like plans to use a chinese satellite to "avoid the imperialism to geting in" meaning blocking everything from outside,and "special send goverment kids" to "monitorate the class in the schools" and more brainwashing stuff,also a law to not let anyone under 18 to leave the country
and specially since the incident where supodsedly chavez was going to be taken out,which IMO not all the questiong hav been answered cuz there was deaths and lots of shootings from the pro chavez,I even heard rumors that one of the shooters was awarded as a national hero and more shit like that,and them he was still in the power the other day(the center of the capital was full of riots and people robed stores,it was chaos)hav divided the people and bringing a sense of zero unity here,so you are whit chavez of against him,which was the "phylosophy" the goverment hav taked from the begining and hav caused a lot of people discutions about why he suck or he best,etc...
so the only thing people could do was to move on and live whit it and hope things get better
in the recent referendun where it was suposed to be the moment when chavez was going to be taken out made things worse
it first consisted of a massive signing to make the petition of take out chavez,since the opositiong won the next step was to vote for take out or not chavez
and them when the massive chavez propaganda begun,cuz seriously it was huge ,you could see the "NO" red logo everywhere,the whole front of house colored in red,whole walls,even a big petroleum tank whit a big "NO" that I saw one day,also the propaganda of the oposition that was hilarious as hell,but the amount of propaganda of chavez was a clear sign that they where worried
and is then when they started to call bush "el diablo"(the devil) presuntally cuz in a legend the devil is dressed in black and in a conference bush was dressed in black,also it was nicknamed "diablush"
the voting was going to be whit new voting machines that not everyone liked
and them the big day come,there was large colums of people waiting to vote since before the 6 am,and the tension fill the air
but sudenly at 11 pm at the night it was anounced some inconpletes results (like 70% of the votings) showing chavez as winner by a large advantage,the confution took control,I couldnt sleep that night,nobody couldnt sleep that night
and then there was the suspect of fraud,whit lots of proof like the fact that in every voting post the votes pro chavez where exactly equall,and theories about the manipulationg of the machines and stuff like that,you should hear the tv channel of the goverment,they considered a "attack" a conference done to the manufactures of the voting machines about posibilities of software manipulations
but the stuff ended when this american ex-president jimmy carrie come whit his people saying that they dont found anyhting odd in the whole voting proces
so while chavez was making stuff about "the victory" the rest of the people felt like there was no escape
the next elections where for the governors of every state,and since there was going to be the same voting machines,people feel theyr vote will be stole,however the chavez followers whit the massive propaganda again voted,and very few people voted for the opositiong candidates for the fear of the stolen vote,chavez canditates won in almost the entyre country,I think there is only one state whiout a chavez candidate but I am not sure
however some stuff where good,recently venezuela was the host of a sport games of the andins countrys of south america,so there was a lot of remodeling in sport stadiums and infraestructure that even if I dont know nothing about aqrchiquecture they dont look so bad,and other more infrastructure stuff in the rest of the city
however the fact that this goverment may become worse is still latent whit posible new laws and stuff
and the most recent stuff is that since the next presidential elections are in the end of the year or after so the people dont know if vote or dont vote,the oposition hav diferent canditates that dont want to ally so the votes against chaves will be very divided and chavez hav a lot of followers
there is even a canditate who is a comedian that is the best comedian in the country and dam good,that say he was inspired by arnold schwarzeneger,hovewer he is the 3 favorite canditate acording to some polls
so thats a sypnosis of what hapened and is hapening here
and if you look at the history of the country is not weird,there was a lot of dictators,my mother allways said to me "there was never a good president",and one teacher told me "every venezuelan hav a dicator inside of him"
and the dictators come from Cipriano castro who get to the power by force at the begining of the centuryand ended the last civil war,he almost started a war against europe by denying to pay the external debt
hovewer the conflict was solved pacifically whit the help of the presdient of the USA,and after that the whole anti USA thing started,one day he went to paris for health problems and his partner Vicente Gomez took control and dont allowed cipriano to enter the country again
at first he was good making the people to vote for him again for presdient,but tafter that the stuff changed and he become more Stalin-like,protest you say? shoot them,and he began whit the petroleun industry in the country that helped Venezuela to pay the external debt
hovewer freedom you say? no
and he ruled everything whit familiars and friends in other sectors of the goverment(remind you of someone?)
there is a zoo in one city that used to be his backyard,a whole big zoo that I used to go alot when I was a child
the regime of gomez ended whit his dead and the sucessor decided to spread the democracy,even if the votes where chosen by representatives and not the whole people,but since them things where more stables whit lots of political partys fighting for the votes
but them the last democratic presdient was taked out by militants and Marcoz Peres Jimenes took control,my mother allways told me that he was a dicator but did a lot of good things,and was true,many important infraestructures of today where built during his regime,however he hav stuff like a secret police that jailed a lot of opositors,but the unhapines of the people made Jimenez to leave the country ending whit his regime and he only returned as a corpse when he died in 2001 and his corpse was buried in he's hometown
after that the dictatorships ended but some few conflicts appeared,whit the increase of the price of the petroleum the country got richer and some people where acused of corruption,I remenber a story of a president that sayd "if I am stealing money of the country them my hands shall burn" and days after he survided a attempt of murder whit a explosive car and he only suffered burns in his hands,in he's next public appearence he had the hands covered whit bandages,but the situation was stable
the first appearence of chavez was in a coup he organized in 1992(after other more serious coup's)but failed and said to cameras that he was full responsible and "for now" he will stop in his attempt to change the country
he was set free years and using short appearence in tv and other stuff he could see the unhapiness of the people about the democracy and started to rise in the prefences of the people above of a ex-miss universe that was candidate too,also the economic situation was going bad
and in the elections of 1998 chavez won over the 2 principals political parties,I remenber I hear the main reason was cuz the people wanted a change,the first big thing he do was to change the national institution last changed in 1961 and the rest was what I mentioned above
well this is the bigest post I hav ever done but I hope this could answer some questions
dont think that here we all love chavez and there is plenty of reason to count that
first the whole situation hav been worse since his presidency
the most recent is the laws that makes that any media (radio,tv...) that show something anti-goverment hav to paid a very expensive fine,and other more censorship
and more stuff like plans to use a chinese satellite to "avoid the imperialism to geting in" meaning blocking everything from outside,and "special send goverment kids" to "monitorate the class in the schools" and more brainwashing stuff,also a law to not let anyone under 18 to leave the country
and specially since the incident where supodsedly chavez was going to be taken out,which IMO not all the questiong hav been answered cuz there was deaths and lots of shootings from the pro chavez,I even heard rumors that one of the shooters was awarded as a national hero and more shit like that,and them he was still in the power the other day(the center of the capital was full of riots and people robed stores,it was chaos)hav divided the people and bringing a sense of zero unity here,so you are whit chavez of against him,which was the "phylosophy" the goverment hav taked from the begining and hav caused a lot of people discutions about why he suck or he best,etc...
so the only thing people could do was to move on and live whit it and hope things get better
in the recent referendun where it was suposed to be the moment when chavez was going to be taken out made things worse
it first consisted of a massive signing to make the petition of take out chavez,since the opositiong won the next step was to vote for take out or not chavez
and them when the massive chavez propaganda begun,cuz seriously it was huge ,you could see the "NO" red logo everywhere,the whole front of house colored in red,whole walls,even a big petroleum tank whit a big "NO" that I saw one day,also the propaganda of the oposition that was hilarious as hell,but the amount of propaganda of chavez was a clear sign that they where worried
and is then when they started to call bush "el diablo"(the devil) presuntally cuz in a legend the devil is dressed in black and in a conference bush was dressed in black,also it was nicknamed "diablush"
the voting was going to be whit new voting machines that not everyone liked
and them the big day come,there was large colums of people waiting to vote since before the 6 am,and the tension fill the air
but sudenly at 11 pm at the night it was anounced some inconpletes results (like 70% of the votings) showing chavez as winner by a large advantage,the confution took control,I couldnt sleep that night,nobody couldnt sleep that night
and then there was the suspect of fraud,whit lots of proof like the fact that in every voting post the votes pro chavez where exactly equall,and theories about the manipulationg of the machines and stuff like that,you should hear the tv channel of the goverment,they considered a "attack" a conference done to the manufactures of the voting machines about posibilities of software manipulations
but the stuff ended when this american ex-president jimmy carrie come whit his people saying that they dont found anyhting odd in the whole voting proces
so while chavez was making stuff about "the victory" the rest of the people felt like there was no escape
the next elections where for the governors of every state,and since there was going to be the same voting machines,people feel theyr vote will be stole,however the chavez followers whit the massive propaganda again voted,and very few people voted for the opositiong candidates for the fear of the stolen vote,chavez canditates won in almost the entyre country,I think there is only one state whiout a chavez candidate but I am not sure
however some stuff where good,recently venezuela was the host of a sport games of the andins countrys of south america,so there was a lot of remodeling in sport stadiums and infraestructure that even if I dont know nothing about aqrchiquecture they dont look so bad,and other more infrastructure stuff in the rest of the city
however the fact that this goverment may become worse is still latent whit posible new laws and stuff
and the most recent stuff is that since the next presidential elections are in the end of the year or after so the people dont know if vote or dont vote,the oposition hav diferent canditates that dont want to ally so the votes against chaves will be very divided and chavez hav a lot of followers
there is even a canditate who is a comedian that is the best comedian in the country and dam good,that say he was inspired by arnold schwarzeneger,hovewer he is the 3 favorite canditate acording to some polls
so thats a sypnosis of what hapened and is hapening here
and if you look at the history of the country is not weird,there was a lot of dictators,my mother allways said to me "there was never a good president",and one teacher told me "every venezuelan hav a dicator inside of him"
and the dictators come from Cipriano castro who get to the power by force at the begining of the centuryand ended the last civil war,he almost started a war against europe by denying to pay the external debt
hovewer the conflict was solved pacifically whit the help of the presdient of the USA,and after that the whole anti USA thing started,one day he went to paris for health problems and his partner Vicente Gomez took control and dont allowed cipriano to enter the country again
at first he was good making the people to vote for him again for presdient,but tafter that the stuff changed and he become more Stalin-like,protest you say? shoot them,and he began whit the petroleun industry in the country that helped Venezuela to pay the external debt
hovewer freedom you say? no
and he ruled everything whit familiars and friends in other sectors of the goverment(remind you of someone?)
there is a zoo in one city that used to be his backyard,a whole big zoo that I used to go alot when I was a child
the regime of gomez ended whit his dead and the sucessor decided to spread the democracy,even if the votes where chosen by representatives and not the whole people,but since them things where more stables whit lots of political partys fighting for the votes
but them the last democratic presdient was taked out by militants and Marcoz Peres Jimenes took control,my mother allways told me that he was a dicator but did a lot of good things,and was true,many important infraestructures of today where built during his regime,however he hav stuff like a secret police that jailed a lot of opositors,but the unhapines of the people made Jimenez to leave the country ending whit his regime and he only returned as a corpse when he died in 2001 and his corpse was buried in he's hometown
after that the dictatorships ended but some few conflicts appeared,whit the increase of the price of the petroleum the country got richer and some people where acused of corruption,I remenber a story of a president that sayd "if I am stealing money of the country them my hands shall burn" and days after he survided a attempt of murder whit a explosive car and he only suffered burns in his hands,in he's next public appearence he had the hands covered whit bandages,but the situation was stable
the first appearence of chavez was in a coup he organized in 1992(after other more serious coup's)but failed and said to cameras that he was full responsible and "for now" he will stop in his attempt to change the country
he was set free years and using short appearence in tv and other stuff he could see the unhapiness of the people about the democracy and started to rise in the prefences of the people above of a ex-miss universe that was candidate too,also the economic situation was going bad
and in the elections of 1998 chavez won over the 2 principals political parties,I remenber I hear the main reason was cuz the people wanted a change,the first big thing he do was to change the national institution last changed in 1961 and the rest was what I mentioned above
well this is the bigest post I hav ever done but I hope this could answer some questions
