Source tech still in development ???

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Originally posted by EvilEwok2.0
Ok, ill strike a deal with you. Post evidence that proves that just one fact i stated isnt true, and ill leave and never come back.

Im waiting.
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There's something you said that isn't true on this thread. You said just one fact. No restrictions. So I did. And you're still here.
 
That looks like hear-say and conjecture to me. Be gone evil demon!
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No. If thats how it looks to you, then its an opinion. You havnt proven me wrong.
 
Originally posted by EvilEwok2.0
Anyway, when i posted that about 1 dynamic light per scene i clearly stated that its been a long time since i read that and i could be mistaken. I didnt post it as fact.
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OH SNAP!~!~!~! He *COULD* be mistaken..
 
fuhrer, read my last post.

When i posted that i clearly stated that it was possible i was mistaken. I didnt post it as fact.
 
Originally posted by EvilEwok2.0
Its liek if i went on a christian forum and said "see, look buddhism isnt so bad. they are good people too"
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That spelling and grammar is fantastic.

Anyway, it's not like that at all. It's more akin to telling any Christian that "Buddhism is better than Christianity". And for that you would deserve to be 'flamed'.

I honestly don't see what sectarianism has to do with this 'debate' anyway. Though it's not really a debate, is it? It is you deciding that your opinions are the same as fact and quite frankly it's ridiculous.

Why are you here? You're clearly are not anticipating HL2 even in the slightest, which is really why the rest of us are here. You see we don't really care about Doom 3. And those of us that do can celebrate that fact in another forum.

This is Half-Life 2 discussion. When you find the forum titled "Groundless Arguments as to Why My Opinion Makes Doom 3 and Several Other Next Generation Engines Superior to Source", let me know.
 
WOW, for people who proclaim that my every word is really opinion, you sure are having trouble finding just one thing i said that wasnt true that i said was fact.
 
Originally posted by EvilEwok2.0
Anyway, when i posted that about 1 dynamic light per scene i clearly stated that its been a long time since i read that and i could be mistaken. I didnt post it as fact.
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Wrong again.

"Light, not lights. Dynamic light. Gabe said hl2 only supports one dynamic light per scene."

Your words exactly. Gabe said nothing of the sort. He mentioned a restriction with cameras, but that's been resolved.
 
Originally posted by Lil' Timmy
ahh, thank you iamironsam.
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you're welcome. leave my spelling alone though, i just pointed out EE's mistake to give him *EDIT: Watch your language, please.* - Ghost.
 
goo djob i like how you only take part of my post. keep reading that thread, and dont ignore the parts that render your "proof" as nothign more than selective reading.
 
Originally posted by EvilEwok2.0
WOW, for people who proclaim that my every word is really opinion, you sure are having trouble finding just one thing i said that wasnt true that i said was fact.
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/me shakes head.

Looks like someone is up to the same old tricks. You could've at least made a name to where it's not obvious who you are. Jeez, try to put some effort into your trolling.
 
Welcome ghost, to another thread ruined by the hl2.net community, who in their fanboism started a flame war because someone somewhere mentioned a game other than hl2 in a positive light.
 
You haven't really said anything in this thread to prove you wrong about, however, I'll take a shot at proving you wrong about your "all I post is facts" dribble.

And to the people who say Source will never be outdated, its nearly outdated already.
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Opinion.

There is not one feature that source bosts that other engines dont have, and yet the opposite isnt true for source.
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What about the facial muscle system? And the eyes? Admittedly, other games have the facial muscle stuff, but none have the eyes that source can do. This I have proof you being wrong about, so you might as well go away forever.

Game developers arent going to turn to an engine that is a generation less sophisticated than a handfull of other engines at their disposal.
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Glad you know what source is capable of ahead of time, and what developers are and aren't going to be doing with it. Opinion.

Every game developer wants their game to compete with the best looking games out there. They want their game to look good. And while source can produce a good looking game, there are a handfull of other engines that will be available in 2004 that will make a better looking game, and with al lthe features of source(physics).
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There's no doubt in my mind that Source can't make much more graphically intense games than HL2, however, the point here is that they want HL2 to work WELL on low-end machines, as well as high end. So not everything will be as best as they can push it. So here again, is your opinion. Mr. "all I post is fact"

I doubt we will see any more than 6 or 7 games made with source in its lifetime.
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Opinion, again. So much for all your "facts"
 
lol, ruined by you, because you intentionally and unrealistically put HL2 in a negative light. Way to go, nice job trying to pass the buck.
 
Fuhrer, you still have to prve me wrong. Good luck.

And its sad that you have to use somehtin gso old. Out of al lthe thing si said in this thread, and all the people who say they arent true, its sad that you cant use anythign in this thread as an example.
 
It's hard to find any false "facts" in your arguments, cause you don't state fact, you state opinion.
 
Originally posted by EvilEwok2.0
Welcome ghost, to another thread ruined by the hl2.net community, who in their fanboism started a flame war because someone somewhere mentioned a game other than hl2 in a positive light.
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Welcome evilewok, to another thread ruined by yourself, who in your fanboism started a flame war because someone somewhere mentioned that HL2 is/will be just as good as Doom3/STALKER.
 
Originally posted by EvilEwok2.0
somehtin gso old. Out of al lthe thing si said in this thread,
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Wow. Hukt on Fonix. Anyway, yeah I already proved you wrong.
 
Excuse me while i LMAO.

None of you have proven me wrong at any point.

All shuzer can do is quote my facts and say "HAH! Opinion!"

You must prove i was wrong, otherwise you must admit im right(which i know none of you will ever do, poor things)


I guess i win. GG_nice try
 
Originally posted by ElFuhrer
Wow. Hukt on Fonix. Anyway, yeah I already proved you wrong.
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Too bad he can't stick to his own word ;(
 
Originally posted by EvilEwok2.0
Excuse me while i LMAO.

None of you have proven me wrong at any point.

All shuzer can do is quote my facts and say "HAH! Opinion!"

You must prove i was wrong, otherwise you must admit im right(which i know none of you will ever do, poor things)


I guess i win. GG_nice try
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I'm sorry, I pointed out to you that source DOES have something other engines don't. The face stuff. The eyes, specifically.

And I'm sorry all I can do is prove to you that EVERYTHING YOU POST IS OPINION, because that's all I can do. You state no facts, all you do is post opinion. That's what everyone is trying to tell you, and you don't listen.
 
WARNING: The next post I find to be ignorant, arrogant, and codescending will edited in such as way that the original author looks stupid. You've had your warning.
 
*EDIT: I'm sorry, guys, I was wrong. OMG, this whole time I was wrong. Wrong, wrong, wrong!!!*
 
lol, EvilEwok's famous cop-out words. You know you've beaten him when he has to say "GG_I win" or something like that. I'll be back later.
 
GV, what happened to the arrogant american in your avatar? are those sunglasses?
 
Shuzer:


The new MOH game has 50 bones in the face to drive facial animation, where hl2 only has 40. Also the eyes look much better, and the pupils even dialate. If you disagree that the eyes look better, thats opinion and you havnt proven me wrong at any point.
 
Originally posted by EvilEwok2.0
None of you have proven anything, all you have done is quote my facts and said either WRONG! or OPINION!. I clearly stated you must post evidence proving something i said to be false.


Your welcome to keep trying, but its obvious that you have fail already.
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Let me try again.

There is not one feature that source bosts that other engines dont have,
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THE. FACIAL. CAPABILITIES. The eyes easily are the most realistic eyes out there, thanks to source. You stated source has nothing other engines don't, and I show that it does have atleast that much.
 
haha, i read EEs post before you edited it, and was thinking, "i wonder if that's the one he'll edit.."
 
Actually you haven't quoted any facts. If they're facts you may want to back them up with some evidence. There's a 20 page thread at the top of this forum with all the evidence you'd need. Hardly anything from what you said is in that thread. Therefore you are either wrong or opinionating.
 
Originally posted by Lil' Timmy
GV, what happened to the arrogant american in your avatar? are those sunglasses?
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They're what I call "Temporary evil eyes." I'll have them until I can come up w/ something original...and evil.
Anyway, I decided to change my Avatar and sig to "Evil American" mode. After all, we Americans just wanna take over the world. ;)
 
Originally posted by EvilEwok2.0
Shuzer:


The new MOH game has 50 bones i nthe face to crive facial animation, where hl2 only has 40. Also the eyes look much better, and the pupils even dialate. If you disagree that the eyes look better, thats opinion and you havnt proven me wrong at any point.
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I already said other games have the facial animation, my point is the eyes are better. The pupils dialating can be done in source.
 
Originally posted by Chris_D
Actually you haven't quoted any facts. If they're facts you may want to back them up with some evidence. There's a 20 page thread at the top of this forum with all the evidence you'd need. Hardly anything from what you said is in that thread. Therefore you are either wrong or opinionating.
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I've been trying to tell him that from his first ignorant, unfounded post. He just won't listen. And he ignores when people DO prove him wrong, because he doesn't want to admit it.
 
LOL, you guys, you're giving him precisely what he craves.

He's not here because he wants HL2, or even because he's interested. He's here for an argument. I'm willing to bet he spends the rest of his time on the Doom 3 boards telling them how much better HL2 is.

It's a classic case of "I'm insecure and want to make myself feel more powerful and intelligent by starting pointless arguments". Next time he gets involved in an otherwise fine discussion, ignore him.
 
EvilEwok, I aint even going to start.

Closed.
 
well, we could start by getting out of iraq and dealing with some of the places in the world that actually represent a threat to americans in america. what do you think about that GV!?

ps plz don't rage on me :eek:
 
Originally posted by EvilEwok2.0
lol Wow what awesome moderators we have here, good job ghost. may I shine your shoes for you?
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Why yes, you can shine my shoes for me!
 
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