Spawn Campers!

[Evo]

Bloody spawn campers, i guess you all know what i mean, but for those who don't know here is a brief rundown.

Spawn campers: A bumbass/jackass/n00b/annoying **** that decides to enter a teams uncap and proceed to camp racking up nice cheap and easy kills.

Now, on my clan's server we operate a no spawn camping policy, we have this as our server message when players connect, and further messages appear during the game. (one exception i must note is that we allow
spec-ops in the uncaps as long as they destroy assets then get out) So while i was playing at Karkand as US some dude decides to come up and start spawn camping, (camping me in particular i felt) so i gave him about three warnings at least with the little chat device that displays messages from both teams. As the server was pretty empty not much global chatter was occuring so he must have seen it. And guess what? He proceeds to continue camping :frown: I tell my clan mates in the squad i was gonna kick him, go into ClanForge (the servers remote admin utility) and click kick and ban. Upon returning to the game i find him gone, kicked and banned.

Moral of the story DONT SPAWN CAMP!

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[Direwolf]

I do reserve a special pleasure for shooting spawn campers with the phalanx guns though.

 

[AmishSlayer]

People try to camp the MEC base in Oman a lot but I find it's easy to get rid of them. I just go AT and kill the tank/apc/whatever is there and persuade my team to help get rid of them (usually I'm the only one doing it but sometimes I get help).

I joined a server that was lopsided teamwise and US was camping (more like attempting to camp) the MEC base. I ended up with the top score on the server after killing the guy in our tank, getting our tank and shooting helos and jets out of the sky. It was very satisfying. I defended the base while teammates kept capping the other US flags. The US team was stupid enough to ignore them and just keep going after the base... We won

I think spawn camping should be 100% legal if all other points are in the camper's control. I joined a server on Dalian Plant that said no spawn camping. I was on the Chinese side and was in a helo. I did a few attack runs NEAR the carrier just killing their helo that had taken off. I didn't whore their base or anything but I got like 6 kills maybe. These guys were stupid enough not to go AT, shoot me down in a jet or even goto the rear AA minigun/missile emplacement on the Essex.

One of the guys started yelling at me for spawn camping and I started to argue with him

Amish: Honestly...are we supposed to wait until you take a point? Is that when we can start attacking you?

I get kicked.

My philosophy is if the team is playing bad enough to lose all the flags and let the other team pressure their main then they deserve it and should have to fight their way out of it. I don't like having part of the battlefield off-limits.

 

[bvasgm]

What about spawn camping an uncap flag as a sniper, spotting jets/helos taking off, tanks leaving and shooting the odd guy standing around in the head? Is that considered cheap?

Edit: Also, calling in artty strikes whenever there's too many people standing around fighting over planes for you to shoot by yourself.

 

[AmishSlayer]

What about spawn camping an uncap flag as a sniper, spotting jets/helos taking off, tanks leaving and shooting the odd guy standing around in the head? Is that considered cheap?

I don't think so.

 

[Kyorisu]

If say the opposing teams last spawn in not able to be captured I generally sit back bit, so the enemy can get organsised to try and break through our defenses. Rather than say kill them as soon as they spawn. ie Don't steal their spawning vehicles and stay out of general spawn sight range.

 

[CyberPitz]

If say the opposing teams last spawn in not able to be captured I generally sit back bit, so the enemy can get organsised to try and break through our defenses. Rather than say kill them as soon as they spawn. ie Don't steal their spawning vehicles and stay out of general spawn sight range.

Your avatar reminds me of a music video...

*Sings* I wish I was a lesbian and not a hetero....

Ahhhh yes.

 

[Lahire149]

Well i was play gulf of omen and someone put an APC underneath the Aircraft Carrier and spawn camped me for like 2 minutes. That is definately bannable.

 

[Direwolf]

Yeah, I've been on some big servers where we get backed up to the carrier and theres so many planes, copters, and APCs camping the area that you don't live for more than two seconds after spawning and theres no vehicles. Theres just nothing you can do about that.

 

[Evo]

Thats why i tend to only play on my clan server, at least there i can kick any campers. If you go on an EA Server or some other public you can never be sure if spawn camping will be allowed or not :frown:

 

[Direwolf]

Yeah, I picked up the same habit. Or I just leave.

 

[Ev!lP!e]

If you can't kill 1 guy in your uncappable base you deserved to get raped.whahaha

 

[$kelet0r]

spawn camping in bf2 is perfectly alright - it is a war after all
considering that you can spawn on your squad leader or on any flag its hardly the other teams fault if you keep spawning at a flag that is surrounded by the enemy

 

[CyberPitz]

I just get annoyed when I die right when I spawn. If I can move for a second, and then die..I'm cool

 

[NJspeed]

The thing with spawn camping is.. if you can't take out a spawn camper, what kind of skills do you have...? I mean, the camper can't respawn there... and your team spawns there. So you should be able to take that camper out, and if you can't, you basically suck. That means the "spawn camper" is pwning you and your teammates with pure skill.. if they keep killing you, but you can't kill them even after respawning there several times..

I'll invade main bases all the time. I'll roll up in there with a tank that has C4 on it, kill a couple of guys, try and blow up any vehicles, choppers, whatever.. or do a quick C4 on some artillery.. then I'll steal one of your teams jets after blowing up my own tank, and then I'll use your stolen jet against your own team too -- by bombing the vehicles at your main base, or doing whatever the hell I feel like... Maybe I'll just sneak in there and plant a couple of C4s on a chopper or a jet and wait for them to take off.. I'm sorry, but if you can't stop one solo enemy in your main base, or if you can't detect them.. you can't complain either. You should really be complaining about your own skills or that of your team.

It's much more challenging for one solo guy to sneak in or invade an enemy main base than it is for a team of guys to defend that same base... So that being said.. if someone has the skill to get in there undetected and plant C4s, or they can roll all the way into your main base in a tank without being challenged.. your team sux..

It's not that hard to take out a spawn camper.

 

[Evo]

I wasn't talkin about the 'skill' required to take out one guy, i was ranting about the lack of respect for the server rules and as such me as an admin who warned him three times to get out of spawn, and yet he continued.

Im sure if you were to visit the 7th Desert Rats server and did the same while an admin was on the same would happen, spawn camping just ain't cricket

 

[J_Tweedy]

Yeah, the idea that you can destroy commander's assets (which are nearly always at main) kind of invites spawn camping to some extent. I mean, you've just blown up the arty, uav and radar (which you're soon going to get points for) and what? you leave? I dont think so- get a supply drop, c4 the runways and heli pads, and sit back and wait. Nothing wrong with it.

 

[Direwolf]

Nothing all that wrong with that, but its when the entire team does it that it gets really stupid. Usually that opens up them to flanking, but if its your only point at the time you're stuck getting shot in the head instantly for the rest of the map.

 

[Kyorisu]

The thing with spawn camping is.. if you can't take out a spawn camper, what kind of skills do you have...? I mean, the camper can't respawn there... and your team spawns there. So you should be able to take that camper out, and if you can't, you basically suck. That means the "spawn camper" is pwning you and your teammates with pure skill.. if they keep killing you, but you can't kill them even after respawning there several times..

I'll invade main bases all the time. I'll roll up in there with a tank that has C4 on it, kill a couple of guys, try and blow up any vehicles, choppers, whatever.. or do a quick C4 on some artillery.. then I'll steal one of your teams jets after blowing up my own tank, and then I'll use your stolen jet against your own team too -- by bombing the vehicles at your main base, or doing whatever the hell I feel like... Maybe I'll just sneak in there and plant a couple of C4s on a chopper or a jet and wait for them to take off.. I'm sorry, but if you can't stop one solo enemy in your main base, or if you can't detect them.. you can't complain either. You should really be complaining about your own skills or that of your team.

It's much more challenging for one solo guy to sneak in or invade an enemy main base than it is for a team of guys to defend that same base... So that being said.. if someone has the skill to get in there undetected and plant C4s, or they can roll all the way into your main base in a tank without being challenged.. your team sux..

It's not that hard to take out a spawn camper.

Yeah sure. The problem is when an entire team is raping your last non capable spawn. They can sit and cover every spawn point you have and still roam around to different locations whenever they want. You spawn randomly somewhere within your base and have no clue as to where the enemy is hiding. Look around for 2 seconds trying to find something to shoot and boom your dead.

I don't play online much and this rarely happens to me. I usually turn the tide of the battle when I join a pub server. Damn noobs!

 

[NJspeed]

Yeah sure. The problem is when an entire team is raping your last non capable spawn. They can sit and cover every spawn point you have and still roam around to different locations whenever they want. You spawn randomly somewhere within your base and have no clue as to where the enemy is hiding. Look around for 2 seconds trying to find something to shoot and boom your dead.

I don't play online much and this rarely happens to me. I usually turn the tide of the battle when I join a pub server. Damn noobs!

I'm not trying to be rude, and yeah, your right.. that does suck. However if your team lost every flag point, can't capture one back, and your pinned down at your main base.. the round is basically over... and it's nobody's fault cept your own teams. So if that's the case, don't even spawn.. just wait at the screen for the game to end, which should only take another minute anyway.

As far as server rules are concerned, I think players should definately obey the server's rules. If your clan says no spawn camping, you have every right to kick someone from your clan server for doing so.. Not that they have to agree with you, (I admit, I don't like that rule either) but it's your server, so it's your rules. If their whole goal was to spawn camp, they could easily go join another server when they log on yours and see your rules. No spawn camping means no spawn camping, and people should respect the rules of the server they are playing on. No doubt about that one.

 

[Reaktor4]

after not playing for months i had a game the other day and this annoying ****er did nothing but get into one of the vehicles and come and sit near one of our spawnpoints blowing everyone that spawned up. i changed to anti tank and killed him as many times as i could and he just kept doing the same thing after he respawned each time. what a boring bastard.

 

[BF2slut]

Why does everybody hate spawn campers? I bet you love to do it yourself but when you're on the receiving end its a terrible thing!

Pfft.. It's not that big of a deal to me. I guess I don't take this game seriousily enough :farmer:

 

[Evo]

Why does everybody hate spawn campers? I bet you love to do it yourself but when you're on the receiving end its a terrible thing!

Pfft.. It's not that big of a deal to me. I guess I don't take this game seriousily enough :farmer:

I never spawn camp, simply cos that would be double standards and make me seem like i was abusing my rights as a clan member and admin.

 

[ktimekiller]

i dont see harm in one person camping in bf 2, but in games like cs, or any slow paced games, ugh...

 

[BF2slut]

i dont see harm in one person camping in bf 2, but in games like cs, or any slow paced games, ugh...

Yeah in Cs I can understand but... BF2? Lol.. it's only a 10-15second wait and you know they are there. I've honestly not had much problems with spawn campers, i've done it myself and only got 5-7 kills.. :rolling:

 

[bam23]

Spawn camps at an uncappable base are annoying but I don't mind a person spawn camping when they are trying to cap a flag, I would do the same.

 

[Evo]

Spawn camps at an uncappable base are annoying but I don't mind a person spawn camping when they are trying to cap a flag, I would do the same.

Spawn camping when tryin to cap the flag is fine by my standards, it's when they camp the uncap is where i get pissed off