Star Trek

[TwwIX]

The film geek inside of me enjoyed the movie very much.
The characters are well portrayed and most of them are true to their original interpretations. The humor was a bit spread out but chuckle worthy nonetheless. Eye candy was gorgeous even though the Enterprise got some cosmetic changes. I was surprised not to see some Apple product placement in there somewhere.
The space battles were spectacular. All in all, i honestly enjoyed the movie.
That said.
The Trekkie inside of me begs to differ. There's nothing wrong with this movie besides the fact that shits all over the already established cannon.
Time Travel isn't anything new to Star Trek. It's been used numerous times in each one of the series as well as the movies. There have been slight changes here and there but they are usually corrected in some form or another. First Contact for example.
This movie, however, introduces drastic changes to the universe without leaving any options to correct them. I just don't see how this gonna go over well with any of the die hard Trekkie's out there. I Am not one but even i died a little bit inside.

 

[Lucid]

I loved every second of it.
I'm not a diehard trekkie at all, so I'm not fazed about any of the changes... in fact, it's awesome because it gives the material an almost clean slate.

I was a bit shocked that they wiped out Vulcan though, that's probably going to hurt the Federation a bit.

Can't wait for the sequel.

 

[Remus]

I think it would've made more sense if those romulan dudes attacked Earth first. Since it is basicaly the Federation capital. I know they explained in the story why they went after Volcan first, but it's bad strategy IMO.

 

[Eejit]

Yup, but they were pretty emotional about their planet being destroyed so prob weren't thinking strategically.

Great film, far better than any other Star Trek film made.

 

[TwwIX]

http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Star_Trek:_Countdown

Scroll down and read all four parts. This was released as a comic book but they have a transcript of it.

 

[Sulkdodds]

Not much previous trek knowledge - it would have been irrelevant mostly anyway, I think - but I enjoyed it a lot. It's not sci-fi, of course, in any sense but the most superficial There are no ideas as such and no 'drama of civiliastion'. It's an awesome thrill-ride in space with quite well-written characters (when they have time to say anything anyway) and an identikit villain. I found it very funny too.

The plot made very little sense, of course...which is awesome.

Spoiler

The villain's plan was to go back in time and kill the person who would fail to stop a natural disaster; the disaster would still happen anyway. The entire fleet was engaged in one place and Earth had no defences whatsoever. A rescue mission to an alien homeworld didn't proceed from an outlying outpost but immediately and directly from Earth, and took a matter of hours - apparently space is TINY. Transporters are targetted with a crosshair on a videogame interface (rather than...computers?), making it almost impossible to transport a moving target. And was it just me, or was the viewscreen in the cockpit of the Enterprise actually a WINDOW made out of goddamn GLASS...which CRACKED?!?

But ultimately nobody can dislike a film where the protagonist bangs a green alien babe.

far better than any other Star Trek film made.

You are wrong.

EDIT: Regarding the 'death' of the former universe: it's still there, in all the other old series that you can still watch, and is going nowhere. No need for mourning.

 

[hot564231]

http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Star_Trek:_Countdown

Scroll down and read all four parts. This was released as a comic book but they have a transcript of it.

Yes, this explains a great deal of story plot, I wish they would make this into a special or another movie to explain to fans.

Anyway I saw the movie a 2nd time, I enjoyed it far more the 2nd time round.

 

[DEATH eVADER]

The movie that I liked the most was actually The Undiscovered Country

The problem with Star Trek is that the series can't hit the right tone with Time Travel

 

[Remus]

I found it extremely funny that the Romulan bad guy talked with an obvious American accent.

"O, hai captain"

 

[hot564231]

The movie that I liked the most was actually The Undiscovered Country

The problem with Star Trek is that the series can't hit the right tone with Time Travel

I liked that movie too, I don't know why people dis so much, maybe because it had a story then mindless action.

 

[Eejit]

Spoiler

The villain's plan was to go back in time and kill the person who would fail to stop a natural disaster; the disaster would still happen anyway.

And was it just me, or was the viewscreen in the cockpit of the Enterprise actually a WINDOW made out of goddamn GLASS...which CRACKED?!?

But ultimately nobody can dislike a film where the protagonist bangs a green alien babe.

You are wrong.

EDIT: Regarding the 'death' of the former universe: it's still there, in all the other old series that you can still watch, and is going nowhere. No need for mourning.

Spoiler

He was after revenge rather than trying to prevent it.
And I think it's that the glass display screen broke rather than it being a window per se.

Superior to First Contact.

 

[CyberPitz]

My dad is a HUGE trek nerd, and he loved the movie. So, that's a plus!

 

[hot564231]

Yes, as we all know CyberPitz's dad is an all powerful "if he likes it, then the sun will shine bright for years to come" kind of guy.

Anyway, my dad hated it, granted my dad is a dickhead so his opinion is invalid, as he hated watchmen too.

 

[DEATHMASTER]

Great movie. A welcome addition to my nerdism of Star Trek.

 

[Sulkdodds]

Spoiler

He was after revenge rather than trying to prevent it.
And I think it's that the glass display screen broke rather than it being a window per se.

Superior to First Contact.

No way! Lame-o.

Spoiler

You see the view screen from an exterior view - inside and outside. I'd have to watch it again but I'd swear it was an actual window - just as there were windows (more logically) on the shuttle craft.

As for the plan, I realise he was after a lot of revenge but I seem to remember him also saying he wanted to stop the event, which would make very little sense. And even if all he was after was revenge, that opens up new questions. Why was he after revenge when a) it wasn't really anyone's fault in particular and b) he could have got his home planet back simply by making sure Spock hurries up? And okay, maybe he was completely insane. But if he was completely insane why was he the leader of a gigantic mining ship, and even if the destruction of his homeworld unhinged him, why was everyone on the entire ship willing to go along with his ridiculous, pointless plan?

And indeed, I just realised:

Spoiler

Reality has changed now, but presumably it hasn't changed enough that the supernova won't still happen. In a hundred years or whatever it's still going to destroy the Romulan homeworld. Only this time the Vulcans won't have been alive to develop the Red Matter and save it. So there'll be no chance at all. Nice one, Starfleet

 

[Eejit]

No way! Lame-o.

Spoiler

You see the view screen from an exterior view - inside and outside. I'd have to watch it again but I'd swear it was an actual window - just as there were windows (more logically) on the shuttle craft.

As for the plan, I realise he was after a lot of revenge but I seem to remember him also saying he wanted to stop the event, which would make very little sense. And even if all he was after was revenge, that opens up new questions. Why was he after revenge when a) it wasn't really anyone's fault in particular and b) he could have got his home planet back simply by making sure Spock hurries up? And okay, maybe he was completely insane. But if he was completely insane why was he the leader of a gigantic mining ship, and even if the destruction of his homeworld unhinged him, why was everyone on the entire ship willing to go along with his ridiculous, pointless plan?

And indeed, I just realised:

Spoiler

Reality has changed now, but presumably it hasn't changed enough that the supernova won't still happen. In a hundred years or whatever it's still going to destroy the Romulan homeworld. Only this time the Vulcans won't have been alive to develop the Red Matter and save it. So there'll be no chance at all. Nice one, Starfleet

Spoiler

Maybe you're right about it being a window, though it would be a departure from how the view screens work in other examples in the Star Trek franchise.

Nero's motivation was mostly explained in the comics Twwix mentioned rather than in the film. I guess they assumed "angry over his civilisation and loved ones being destroyed, possibly irrational" was enough of a motivation for him in the film.

The supernova will still happen, but at least the Federation is now fore-warned. Even without the vulcans they know what direction to head their research rather than just happening to develop it in the nick of time.

 

[TwwIX]

Now when i think about it. If Nero and Spock ended up in the past while being enveloped by the black hole. What happened to the supernova? I wouldn't be surprised if they used it as a plot element for a later sequel.

 

[Eejit]

The supernova they were dealing with was consumed by the black hole that pulled them in.

 

[TwwIX]

The supernova they were dealing with was consumed by the black hole that pulled them in.

So where they. My question is, where did it go?

 

[Eejit]

Only spaceships with important characters in them actually travel through black holes. Other stuff is just destroyed, duh

 

[CR0M]

The movie that I liked the most was actually The Undiscovered Country

Yup, also my favourite of the series, a lot darker than previous films - they got the balance right with that one.

Anyway, saw it last night and the new movie sucked imo. Dawson's Creek in space. All American square jawed teenagers with perfect hair pout sulkily and save the universe from an abyssmal storyline again. Yay. There's even a stupid muppet alien sidekick in it ffs, seriously I don't get why they keep feeling the need to inject humour into the movies, when it was only a very occasional feature of the series.

The only glimmer of genius was Karl Urban's spookily well observed Bones.

A forgettable 0 stars.

 

[Lucid]

Bullshit, Crom.
BULL. SHIT.

You know you liked it.

 

[CR0M]

I know I didn't.

 

[Lucid]

Sure, keep telling yourself that.

 

[CR0M]

Will do.

 

[Kadayi]

An enjoyable romp (save tiny space alien which was unnecessary), though as others have pointed out, if you think too much about the plot it soon unravels. However I thought overall the casting was good save Simon Pegg who does a lousy Scottish accent. Maybe that was the intention, but it was kind of lame (I'd of tried for Kevin McKidd because he's the real thing).

 

[Anthraxxx]

things to note about the movie.

In Scotty's outpost, there is a cage with some Tribbles on his desk.

The engine room for the Enterprise was filmed in a Budweiser plant.... so the Enterprise is fueled by radioactive beer. Awesome.

When Scotty is in the transporter room, the guy sitting next to him is the original Scotty's son.

On the bridge of the Enterprise.... Kumar... standing at one of those stations.

 

[MRG]

I watched the new Star Trek movie today.

With the exception of perhaps a couple of episodes from the original series, I believe that I very well may have watched every Star Trek episode covering the original series, TNG & Voyager. I know for a fact that I have watched EVERY episode from TNG & Voyager a couple times over, as I had them on DVD.

That being said, I wouldn't be caught dead at a convention. Let me make that quite clear.

However, this newest movie rocked so incredibly hard, that I made some pointy ears out of tin foil & ran around the house yelling "Live Long & Prosper" at the top of my lungs while chasing my cat. (Not really)

J.J Abrams did a Fantastic job. Even if you hated Star Trek, but liked Sci-Fi, I fully believe that you would enjoy this movie. It was that good. At least I think so. Those of you here that don't care can go stick your head in a Dilithium crystal chamber.

Star Trek FTW!

-MRG

 

[shortsite]

Thought it was great too !

Spioler below highlight to show (dont know how to have spoiler buttons sorry)

It was a glass window doubling up as a view screen , also the bridge was upside down (underneath the saucer section of the ship) rather than on top of it like they usually are.

Just a thought

 

[gFrohman]

It was enjoyable, but there's still a few things that bug me:

1) Why the hell is it that

Spoiler

when the first black hole created by Ambassador Spock doesn't destroy Spock or Nero's ships, but sends them back in time and all other future black holes created are destructive? When did this change happen? How? Wasn't that first black hole using the same red matter that the other black holes were using?

2) It seems a little unrealistic that a Starfleet cadet would be suddenly made Captain of a starship so fast.

Spoiler

I guess with Kirk it's to make sure he's Captain of the Enterprise by the end of the film, but it's still forced and unrealistic.

3) Nero's intentions still seemed rather unclear to me throughout the film - the film never did a good job of explaining his character - he came off to me as a transparent, cliched villian (and had him *sigh* monologuing to try to explain everything!). And his ship didn't look like a mining ship to me (and what's the obsession with villian spaceships having a large, cavernous labyrinth of an interior?)

I do like the fact that the film basically pushed the reset button on Star Trek in general, so that we can disregard the Voyager bullshit and the embarrassment of Enterprise.

 

[hot564231]

I don't think it reset anything,

in fact I feel this is similar to a Marvel thing.

Such as a normal Marvel universe and the Ultimate Marvel universe.

The two can co-exist.

 

[Darkside55]

Movie was great. It will be interesting to see where the series goes from here.

Great film, far better than any other Star Trek film made.

You are wrong.

Friends and I sat around after the credits trying to decide whether this movie was better than First Contact. Eventually we just gave up.

I don't think it reset anything,

in fact I feel this is similar to a Marvel thing.

Such as a normal Marvel universe and the Ultimate Marvel universe.

The two can co-exist.

Except Marvel canned the Ultimate universe.

 

[hot564231]

No it isn't

It was revealed at the 2009 New York Comic Con that the entire Ultimate Marvel imprint will be relaunched after the conclusion of the Ultimatum event, under a new "Ultimate Comics" brand. The future direction of the imprint will then reflect the social and political impact of Ultimatum.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultimate_Marvel

SO IN YOUR FACE!

 

[gFrohman]

I didn't mean reset in a literal way; I understand that now there's a tangent universe in existence. I meant reset as in we don't have to continue the bullshit started with Star Trek Generations and the embarrassments that followed film-wise. So long as we're done with Rick Berman's shitty writing that's all I care about.

 

[Darkside55]

SO IN YOUR FACE!

Well, I'm wrong, then. Last I heard it was ending after ultimatum.

Still, you seem to be far too happy that a shitty continuity like Ultimate Marvel is continuing, what with your little demotivational poster and quoted comment. Enjoy your shittier-than-even-616 universe.

 

[hot564231]

Well my demonic eyed friend, I'll 'ave you know, I loathe marvel comics.

So you're wrong again.

And please, you'd jump at the chance to post yourself a "demotivational poster and quoted comment".

YEAH!

Spoiler

Yeah I know, that made no sense, but THAT WAS THE POINT!

 

[Darkside55]

Lies, I hate motivationals, everyone knows it.

Well, at least you save face by not liking Marvel. Good on you, man.

 

[MRG]

Totally off thread, but since Comics came up, the only good comics locally are Groo & Conan with Asterix, Tin-Tin & Footrot Flats arriving from a foreign local.

That's all. Continue regular broadcasting.

-MRG

 

[CptStern]

Totally off thread, but since Comics came up, the only good comics locally are Groo & Conan with Asterix, Tin-Tin & Footrot Flats arriving from a foreign local.

That's all. Continue regular broadcasting.

-MRG

Groo? Groo the wanderer? Conan with Asterix? Asterix and Obelix?

oh ok, wiki:

At the 2007 WonderCon, the creators revealed that since 2005 they've been trying to produce a Groo / Conan crossover (both titles are published by Dark Horse) which would have the Wanderer encountering the Barbarian whom he has parodied. Unfortunately the project has encountered a number of postponements, but they believe the project may finally be coming to fruition.[1] On September 9,2007, Longtime Groo writer, Mark Evanier revealed that the Groo/Conan project is a go with no official release date as of yet.

did it come out? if so that would be awseome. I loved Groo back in the ..80's

 

[MRG]

Groo? Groo the wanderer? Conan with Asterix? Asterix and Obelix?

Groo by himself is good.
Conan by himself is great.
But together? Please god no.
Keep them apart & on their own.

Yes, Asterix & Obelix. Great comics. I grew up reading through all of their adventures. Their newest movie, "Asterix and the Vikings" was released in 2006 & was IMO, quite good.

The Adventures of Tintin, is a series of comic strips created by Belgian artist Hergé, the pen name of Georges Remi (1907–1983). The series first appeared in French in a children's supplement to the Belgian newspaper Le Vingtième Siècle on 10 January 1929. Set in a painstakingly researched world closely mirroring our own, the series has continued as a favourite of readers and critics alike for 80 years.

The hero of the series is Tintin, a young Belgian reporter. He is aided in his adventures from the beginning by his faithful fox terrier dog Snowy.

Footrot Flats was a comic strip written by New Zealand cartoonist Murray Ball. It ran from 1975 until 1994 in newspapers around the world. The cartoon was based around the life of Wal Footrot's sheep dog, "Dog", on their farm Footrot Flats (hence the title), and the other characters, human and animal, that came into their lives. Dog's thoughts are voiced in thought bubbles, though he is clearly "just a dog" rather than the heavily anthromorphised creatures sometimes found in other comics or animation. The humour was based around the foibles of the characters, which many, particularly farmers themselves, found easy to recognise around them. There was much "humour in adversity", making fun of the daily struggle that permeates farming life. The depictions of the animals are quite realistic and detailed, with a dose of comic anthropomorphism superimposed without spoiling the farming realism.

My step-mom is from New Zealand. My dad married her when I was 7 & growing up she introduced me to Tin-Tin, Asterix & Footrot Flats.

-MRG