Star Trek

[CptStern]

if it's drawn/written by Sergio Aragones then it'll be awesome. and I'm a huge fan of conan as well as groo. oh and:

Recently, Aragon�©s and Evanier announced the start of pre-production on an animated movie version of the comic. On September 25, 2008, Evanier stated that the rights to produce an animated film based on Groo have been sold and that the film is currently in production.

non Groo fans may remember Sergio Aragones from his little drawings in between the panels in Mad Magazine also the animation at the bottom of the screen on Dick Clark's Bloopers shows


ps: loved tin tin growing up and Asterix and Obelisk; I think I've read every one of the english translated series. never heard of footrot flats

 

[Lucid]

MRG... what have you done?!
WHAT HAVE YOU DONE??!?!!?!

 

[MRG]

ps: loved tin tin growing up and Asterix and Obelisk; I think I've read every one of the english translated series. never heard of footrot flats

Sounds like we may have a similar taste in comics. In light of that, you may find that you like Footrot Flats, even if you have never been to New Zealand.

Take a look.
http://www.oneil.com.au/footrot/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Footrot_Flats

MRG... what have you done?!
WHAT HAVE YOU DONE??!?!!?!

What? What?? I didn't do nuffin!

-MRG

 

[theotherguy]

Good god I hate this film.

This film is to Star Trek as Episode I was to Star Wars.

The plot made no sense whatsoever. The action was over-the-top, stupid, and cliched. The villian was horribly cliched and made no sense. Skydiving katana-wielding Sulu. Poorly voiced Checkov. Douchebag Kirk. Did I mention the plot made no sense? There was almost no exposition whatsoever.

The movie was just overall a brainless action flick, with none of the ethical complications, utopian visions, or sub-plots that Star Trek is usually known for. The movie was a fireworks show. It was not Star Trek.

 

[gFrohman]

The plot made no sense whatsoever. [...]The villian was horribly cliched and made no sense. Skydiving katana-wielding Sulu. [...] Did I mention the plot made no sense? There was almost no exposition whatsoever.

I think you're being a bit harsh, but I wholeheartedly agree with you on these points. Gotta love the stereotype of "oh Sulu's asian, he must know martial arts!" (which the original series Star Trek was guilty of as well).

 

[Eejit]

I think you're being a bit harsh, but I wholeheartedly agree with you on these points. Gotta love the stereotype of "oh Sulu's asian, he must know martial arts!" (which the original series Star Trek was guilty of as well).

Er, fencing?

 

[Warbie]

He was actually proficient in the noble european art of fencing.

I agree that the bad guy was a bit limp, and there were some cheesey moment, but the casting was good, nice action, well paced, funny moments, and left the strong possibility of a series that many of us would welcome. All in all it was good stuff :cheers:

//bah eejit beat me to it

 

[gFrohman]

What Sulu did in the film was NOT fencing - he was using a katana and doing a bunch of ninja moves. That is not fencing.
Fencing is a very different sword technique than Asian sword fighting. What I saw was Asian sword fighting technique.

 

[theotherguy]

A more poignant question:

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Why the hell did he even have a sword? They had ****ing phasers! You know, the guns that disintegrate people? Why were they even involved in hand-to-hand combat?

Why didn't they just send down a shuttle?

Better yet; why didn't the enterprise fire a photon torpedo, or even a phaser blast, at the base of the drill, thus easily destroying it? Why couldn't the enterprise simple have fired a SINGLE torpedo at the part of the drill that was IN SPACE, and easily destroy it, rather than send down kirk, sulu and a red-shirt in power ranger costumes to fight the romulans hand to hand?

The answer to all of these questions: hollywood, and money. Somebody sat down and was like, "You know what would be badass? Skydiving!" "Yeah, that sounds great! Let's make them fight with swords!" "Woah, let's put them in space marine gear!"

 

[Kadayi]

A more poignant question:

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Why the hell did he even have a sword? They had ****ing phasers! You know, the guns that disintegrate people? Why were they even involved in hand-to-hand combat?

Why didn't they just send down a shuttle?

Better yet; why didn't the enterprise fire a photon torpedo, or even a phaser blast, at the base of the drill, thus easily destroying it? Why couldn't the enterprise simple have fired a SINGLE torpedo at the part of the drill that was IN SPACE, and easily destroy it, rather than send down kirk, sulu and a red-shirt in power ranger costumes to fight the romulans hand to hand?

The answer to all of these questions: hollywood, and money. Somebody sat down and was like, "You know what would be badass? Skydiving!" "Yeah, that sounds great! Let's make them fight with swords!" "Woah, let's put them in space marine gear!"

As brainless romp the film was enjoyable (save Pegg as Scotty who was shit with all his overly dramatic gurning), however the plot has holes bigger than the Dick Cheney's excuses running through it. What I'm not overly keen on is the entire shift away from the existing Star Trek universe. Abrams has talked a lot about how he didn't like Next Gen etc, which I think is a bit of a kick in the teeth to all the people who worked on those shows tbh.

Also I think stuff like sulu with the sword was a pop reference to this:-

Which is all well and good, but for the fact that as you rightly pointed out phasers would of made a lot more sense.

 

[Eejit]

A more poignant question:

Spoiler

Why the hell did he even have a sword? They had ****ing phasers! You know, the guns that disintegrate people? Why were they even involved in hand-to-hand combat?

Why didn't they just send down a shuttle?

Better yet; why didn't the enterprise fire a photon torpedo, or even a phaser blast, at the base of the drill, thus easily destroying it? Why couldn't the enterprise simple have fired a SINGLE torpedo at the part of the drill that was IN SPACE, and easily destroy it, rather than send down kirk, sulu and a red-shirt in power ranger costumes to fight the romulans hand to hand?

The answer to all of these questions: hollywood, and money. Somebody sat down and was like, "You know what would be badass? Skydiving!" "Yeah, that sounds great! Let's make them fight with swords!" "Woah, let's put them in space marine gear!"

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You must not have paid much attention. They didn't send a shuttle because they were being sneaky so that they could get it done without the Enterprise and whatever shuttle they launched being instantly obliterated. OMG what a plot hole -.-
I think the sword was a backup, didn't they lose their guns at the start of the fight?

 

[gFrohman]

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You must not have paid much attention. They didn't send a shuttle because they were being sneaky so that they could get it done without the Enterprise and whatever shuttle they launched being instantly obliterated. OMG what a plot hole -.-
I think the sword was a backup, didn't they lose their guns at the start of the fight?

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Still, even if they were being sneaky, unless they had personal heat shields (which I doubt covered their ENTIRE body), they should have burned up in the planet's atmosphere when they dived. They did lose their guns at the beginning of the fight, but only because they were being retards and because the plot had to be forced into an unnecessary hand-to-hand fight scene - any real soldier carries a backup gun with them before they resort to hand-to-hand combat.

 

[Lucid]

In their defense, it was pretty close quarters making efficient use of a gun nigh impossible.

 

[Sulkdodds]

I'm not sure what profit there is in attacking or defending the plausibility of a movie which is openly and unashamedly full of shit.

 

[Darkside55]

I'm not sure what profit there is in attacking or defending the plausibility of a movie which is openly and unashamedly full of shit.

Indeed. People in this thread are being

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illogical

 

[Shakermaker]

Indeed. People in this thread are being

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illogical

I heartily chuckled.

 

[theotherguy]

I'm not sure what profit there is in attacking or defending the plausibility of a movie which is openly and unashamedly full of shit.

Just because its unashamedly full of shit doesn't make it any worse that its full of shit. It wasn't intended to be a parody of Star Trek, but that's what it came across as.

 

[Eejit]

Let's play spot the trekkie.

 

[VirusType2]

The only movie I've ever walked out of a theater on was Star Trek - Voyage Home or some shit.

I like the original Star Trek movie.

 

[Lucid]

That's probably one of the best TOS movies though. D:

 

[gFrohman]

That one was definitely meh for me.
Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan was by far the best in my opinion (with Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country at a close second).

 

[hot564231]

The Wrath of Khan & Undiscovered Country are pretty much naval stories in all honestly.

 

[The Monkey]

7/10 - Spock's duality was a nice touch, but I wonder how they are gonna pull off a sequel now that

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the Vulcans are all but extinct.

 

[Shakermaker]

7/10 - Spock's duality was a nice touch, but I wonder how they are gonna pull off a sequel now that

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the Vulcans are all but extinct.

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There are still about 10.000 Vulcans left and Spock was starting a colony at the end of the movie.

You betcha we're gonna have sequels. The movie grossed enough money to spawn a part 2.

 

[ktimekiller]

Let me ask a question.

WHEN THE **** DO SCI-FI MOVIES EVER MAKE SENSE?

Lets all relax and enjoy it for what it was, and it was good!

 

[bam23]

you should know by now that people don't do it that way around here.

 

[Lucid]

Can't wait for the Special Edition DVD in the November.

 

[CptStern]

There's nothing wrong with this movie besides the fact that shits all over the already established cannon.

but it's a different timeline. none of those things existed. Shatner's kirk never lost his father,

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vulcan wasnt destroyed

Time Travel isn't anything new to Star Trek. It's been used numerous times in each one of the series as well as the movies. There have been slight changes here and there but they are usually corrected in some form or another. First Contact for example.

yes but this is a reboot. they had to drastically change the direction or else be forced to account for the huge differences between the reboot and sequels and the original series. I think they handled it in th eonly way they could ..completely different than the original but with enough old material (references) to keep the old fans happy

This movie, however, introduces drastic changes to the universe without leaving any options to correct them. I just don't see how this gonna go over well with any of the die hard Trekkie's out there. I Am not one but even i died a little bit inside.

as a fan of the star trek series I think this is by far the least star trek-y trek that I've seen ...but that's neccessarily a bad thing. it's kind of hard to top Picard or Shatner and with the exception of (new) Bones none of the characters/actors could have attained that level so why try? I think it's a good direction for the series however they need to tie it somewhat to the series as a whole, even if it is a reboot. they have to keep paying homage to the fans

 

[Dr0ndeh]

i could see them doing another khan story with startrek 2, with the new universe enterprise finding the botany bay (which should be still out there in space waiting to be discovered seeing as it was launched before the timeline split.)

dont know what the plot would involve or who they would get to play khan as fantasticly as ricardo montalban, and obviously it couldnt be a revenge story anymore, but im sure they could think of something to make it fresh.

as long as they dont try and shoe-horn the borg anywhere into TOS, i'll be happy.

 

[Eejit]

I suspect they might use the Klingons for the next movie. We know that events of this one have already had a large direct impact on them so it would be easy to do something completely new there rather than rehashing some of the old events.

 

[Lucid]

Comes on DVD and Blu-ray tomorrow!
Can't wait to watch this in HD.

I hope they don't skimp on the special features.

 

[13LACKBISHOP]

I loved this film. Thought it was great. I don't even like star trek and I loved this movie.

The movie was just overall a brainless action flick, with none of the ethical complications, utopian visions, or sub-plots that Star Trek is usually known for. The movie was a fireworks show. It was not Star Trek.

HAHAHAHAHAHA

 

[Yorick]

I finally got around to seeing this. The casting was great, but other than that it was pretty much one of the worst movies ever. Terrible pacing and editing, absolutely awful story and pretty much as filled with cliches and arbitrary scenes and developments as possible.

This movie is an insult to Star Trek.

 

[Krynn72]

This movie is an insult to Star Trek.

So its pretty good then? Anything thats an insult to Star Trek must at least be better than Star Trek.

 

[Yorick]

So its pretty good then? Anything thats an insult to Star Trek must at least be better than Star Trek.

Shut your goddamn whore mouth.

 

[Lucid]

The movie managed to get me pretty interested in Star Trek, so just for that I'd call it one of the best movies of this year... even though it's pretty much that just because of how immensely entertaining it was.

Been watching a lot of Deep Space Nine and TNG lately.

Worst movie ever? Hardly, it definitely deserves the praise.

 

[Yorick]

Worst movie ever? Hardly, it definitely deserves the praise.

As usual, I find myself thinking that there must be a switch on the back of your head that renders your brain 100% inactive.

 

[Lucid]

Hey man, I was a passing fan of Star Trek when I saw the movie.
Watched all of the original series movies, couldn't get into the series itself though.

So I'm sorry if I can't see how it's an insult to the Star Trek name.

I do admit that it had a few glaring inconsistencies, holes, and illogical plot developments but that didn't affect its entertainment value for me in the least.

It's basically like watching one of Farscape's more surreal episodes... don't think about it a whole lot and just go along for the ride.

 

[Fragalishus]

Just saw it recently, can't wait for

Star Trek II: A New Lens Flare

 

[Eejit]

The casting was great, but other than that it was pretty much one of the worst movies ever. Terrible pacing and editing, absolutely awful story and pretty much as filled with cliches and arbitrary scenes and developments as possible.

So pretty much like every other Star Trek, just faster paced?

This movie is an insult to Star Trek.

Does not compute.