Steam Forum Censorship. Whats gone Wrong Valve ?

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What the hell is wrong with the Steam Forums ?

After the worst CS Source update known, a lot of people having taken the time to make their opinions heard, yet the moderators are deleting threads left right and centre.

It starts with the Moderators insisting people only post in 1 particular thread regarding the update and they close anything else vaguely related.

Once this hits 1000+ posts they then DELETE it. A new thread is started, again with the moderators inisting people post in it, again its DELETED by the moderators.

Its really astounding the steps being taken to stop people expressing their unhappyness with the last update. Perfectly reasonable threads are being deleted by so called moderators.

THis is the mail i've sent to Alfred Reynolds. I hope this is a blip on Valves behalf, surely the worlds most played online game is still interested in the views of the people that actually play it ?

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----- Original Message -----
From: **
To: "Alfred ***
Sent: ***
Subject: Re: Re Steam Forum Moderation


> Alfred this is getting silly
>
> The Post started by your moderators has been deleted again.
>
> Now the below has been deleted.
>
> I wont mail you again regarding this, but if you feel this is the correct
> action to take then i'm clearly part of the wrong community
>
> Thanks again for your time
>***
> -----------------
> How do i express my opinion here
> Ok so the 1st huge thread regarding the last steam update has been "moved"
> but none of us can see it.
>
> Despite being told we MUST post in this thread and any related threads
> getting closed its now dispapeared off the radar.
>
> Now the New thread has been locked and it seems for the same reasons. People
> took great displeasure in being DICTATED to by moderators what they could
> and couldnt not say, so the thread again gets locked. How long before it
> disapears also ?
>
> I'm totally and utterly appalled by the moderators actions here.
>
> NB I applaud Valve , l love half live /tfc/ counterstrike etc and have since
> i 1st played in 1998, hence i feel i have a valuable opinion and express it
> where i believe the creators may read and digest.
>
> Like many people that may not always be pro valve, but we come here to help
> the game move forward, not backwards.
>
> I think your actions in deleting / moving posts are actually making people
> considerably more angry, encouraging flaming and you are not assisting Valve
> one little bit.
>
> People are associating this type of responce directly with Valve and i'm
> starting to question how much Valve realy would agree with the current
> moderation.
>
> I only hope someone with sense see's this soon and responds accordingly
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: ****
> To: ***
> Sent:***
> Subject: Re Steam Forum Moderation
>
>
>> Alfred
>>
>> I'm sorry to bother you but i feel very very strongly that certain
>> moderators on the official Counter Strike Steam Forum have now lost sight
>> of their role and taken to deleting posts with the absolute wrong reaons.
>>
>> http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=313209
>>
>> The original post regarding this had 1000+ posts. I can clearly appreciate
>> that the contents of this may not have been liked by yourselves but a lot
>> of people took the time to express their opinions regarding last weeks
>> Counterstrike Source update.
>>
>> The previous thread in question existed because the moderators insisted
>> that people were only allowed to post within it regarding the last update.
>> Any related thread was closed, so we did as we was told but it still gets
>> deleted.
>>
>> Its now been "moved" out of the forums, not may I suggest because it was
>> "out of hand", but because people took great displeasure in being dictated
>> to by the moderators what they opinions they were and were not lowed to
>> post and pointed this out.
>>
>> I'm not going to argue all of these where reasonable or polite, because
>> clearly they were not, plus I dont question for a second that Valve put a
>> huge amount of effort into the release only to find some fairly
>> discouraging remarks made. I do realise the forum does need some strong
>> moderation due to the amount of abusive posts that do tend to fly about,
>> however i strongly disagree with the action taken regarding the previous
>> update post, it just smacks of downright full on censorship and the
>> opinions of 1 or 2 moderators.
>>
>> Surely the fourm exists for people to express their opinions either happy
>> or unhappy?.Isn't this how CounterStrike has progressed over the years?
>>
>> Personally i've played online from since 1999 via TFC and CS , through
>> each of its subsequent incarnations and believe the communities opinions
>> expressed in forums such as this have contributed a huge amount towards
>> its development and current state.
>>
>> I'm sure the number of posts may have already have alerted to you to the
>> communities opinion on the current update and i'm not going to go into
>> this any further.
>>
>> I hope you'll read this and understand how angry I am to mail you
>> directly. I'm sure you'll back your moderators all the way and i respect
>> that, but hope you'll at least consider my points.
>>
>> Thanks
>> ***>>
>>
>>
>>
>

 

[Hectic Glenn]

One thread is plenty to discuss the problem in. And secondly, source being the poor game it is anyway with awful hitboxes since the start...any update will fix it if anything. Oh and emailing valve will do nothing, i'd suggest emailing the head steam admin, crush or crash or something along those lines i cannot remember his name if you care that passionately.

 

[DiSTuRbEd]

Dude don't complain here about it, nothing will be solved if you have that issue, we aren't part of the Steam forums, posting it over there would help out more IMO. But also you must realize this: "Administrators/Moderators reserve the right to change, edit, or delete any content at any time if they feel it is inappropriate."

Which inturns means, either put up with what the administration does or go somewhere else. VALVe has all right to delete/edit posts on their own forum, same with what happens on here, accept that over there they have over 200,000+ people to look after.

 

[^Ben]

One thread is plenty to discuss the problem in. And secondly, source being the poor game it is anyway with awful hitboxes since the start...any update will fix it if anything. Oh and emailing valve will do nothing, i'd suggest emailing the head steam admin, crush or crash or something along those lines i cannot remember his name if you care that passionately.

Woo wooo for BS.

 

[nal777]

let's not mention plain censorship of mods such as fortress forever.

 

[Dekstar]

Or plain censorship of Dedicated anti-cheat tools such as Hack Cam...

 

[Mechagodzilla]

Well let's see...

-There's only one topic there, so it should stay in one thread. There is no need for more than one thread.
-The entire point of the topic is to alert Valve to how some people don't like the update. I'm sure they know by now, given the hundreds of posts.
-A thousand-post thread is freakishly large. I'm not surprised they shut it down and started a new one.

The only strange thing here is that they deleted the first thread instead of just locking it. But I honestly can't imagine how that's horrible enough to E-mail them with such a long complaint.

But anyways, yah. Stop censureing, you jerks!!