Steam = Memory Hog

Anubis

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Wow, Steam uses up a lot of memory when doing nothing. I loaded it up and its started using over 20MB's.. Its now over 35mb's!. And to think I thought playing with ICQ was bad. Steam could be a real problem for some people.

Anubis
 
That had better be reduced when playing online or im screwed.:-P
 
Maybe its because it's still working on downloading updates and such.
Dont forget steam updates itself alone. Maybe it copies some more files from the original hl dir. who knows.
 
Yeah I got a 1GB of memory. I'd be pissed off even more if I didn't have that much.

Anyone get into any games?. I can't get any games to load, errr. Not even single player halflife.. So far steam isn't looking very good in my eyes.

Anubis
 
Originally posted by Anubis
Yeah I got a 1GB of memory. I'd be pissed off even more if I didn't have that much.

Anyone get into any games?. I can't get any games to load, errr. Not even single player halflife.. So far steam isn't looking very good in my eyes.

Anubis

likewise... so far, steam (non beta) client seems like a steaming pile of shit... it's takin forever to play hl and it's downloadin stuff that i dont want it to (all mods/games are set at "do not update automatically" but nearly everything is) plus download speed is crap... im gettin 7k a sec while its updating even though i can download 70k most of the time when dl off the net and no.. nothing wrong with my connection either... and to top it all of its eating over 30mb of resources :eek:
 
Originally posted by Nippy_Kangaroo
m gettin 7k a sec while its updating even though i can download 70k most of the time when dl off the net and no..

Theres other people in the world not just you. Keep that in mind please.
 
Originally posted by DiSTuRbEd
Theres other people in the world not just you. Keep that in mind please.


yeah im sure you'd take that view if you had to d/l hl2 off the net and you were only getting 2 bytes a sec!
hmm, well obviously I dont expect to d/l at 70kb a sec.. but 7kb is crap and constant freezes dont help either.... i think valve has released the alpha version by mistake!!
I pity the 56k users who are downloading via steam :(
 
OMG steam uses 30 megs of RAM why dont we kill ourselves:dozey:
 
I installed using the installer, but now it just freezes when steam starts to update. as in no progress bar.
 
Ok, I shutdown Steam like 30minutes ago. I went to start it up again and it says its already running!. what the hell is this all about it. I ctrl alt del, and check my task manager. There it is. Still running. And its using over 70MB of memory!!!!. Stupid steam.

So, if you really want to shutdown steam, you must ctrl+alt+del, and shut it down like that.

Anubis
 
somehow i managed to get an account in steam, but when i try to login, it just says "could not connect to steam network." so people, dont even care about it for today, just get your account in there
 
Steam doesn't appear to be very well-written - and, IMHO, too buggy for a non-beta product. There is no way this is going to be usable by Johnny Public.
 
It'll level out. The screwiness is caused by the extreme load on the servers, once the thousands of people who are all trying to update CS at once have got their updates finished it'll be more stable.

Granted the client should be less sensitive to network screwiness, but...

As far as downloading whole games goes, it's usually very fast. As long as Valve pre-load patches and games (like they did with the HL2 movies) and get a few more content servers everything should work fine.
 
I'm not sure about that, Epsi. It seems to be screwy when installing - in places where it isn't touching the servers at all. And many of the problems it has now also showed up in the beta. It's like they just decided it was ready, rather than coming to the end of a test period and finding it reliable.
 
What does windows virtual memory have to do with the amount of memory that steam uses?

Anubis
 
It's not all that much when you look at how much memory this web page uses in IE, it's at 16Mb for me, steam is idling at 12Mb.
 
I would guess that Steam embeds the IE control, so that's a fair chunk of memory used up.
 
Originally posted by Anubis
What does windows virtual memory have to do with the amount of memory that steam uses?

Anubis
Virtual memory uses a partition on your hard drive to make it act like the other memory. Duh, hence the name VIRTUAL memory.
 
Originally posted by morpherex
Virtual memory uses a partition on your hard drive to make it act like the other memory. Duh, hence the name VIRTUAL memory.
Nobody asked for an explanation of what virtual memory is, so please stop explaining such basic computer terms as if you were the only technically knowledgeable person in a room full of small children.

The question was (this is the part you need to try very hard to read and understand):

What on earth does the concept of virtual memory have to do with the amount of physical memory Steam is using?

Are you trying to suggest that it is not a problem, because other processes will be paged to virtual memory if necessary in order to make room? This despite the fact that virtual memory is orders of magnitude slower than physical memory, and paging active processes to it will slow things to a crawl?

Or was there some other, vaguely sensible, point you were trying to make?

Please enlighten us at your earliest convenience.
 
I understand that. But that doesn't answer my question. What does windows virtual memory have to do with the amount of memory that steam uses?

Anubis
 
Originally posted by HeatMiser
Nobody asked for an explanation of what virtual memory is, so please stop explaining such basic computer terms as if you were the only technically knowledgeable person in a room full of small children.

The question was (this is the part you need to try very hard to read and understand):

What on earth does the concept of virtual memory have to do with the amount of physical memory Steam is using?

Are you trying to suggest that it is not a problem, because other processes will be paged to virtual memory if necessary in order to make room? This despite the fact that virtual memory is orders of magnitude slower than physical memory, and paging active processes to it will slow things to a crawl?

Or was there some other, vaguely sensible, point you were trying to make?

Please enlighten us at your earliest convenience.
Use common sense and figure it out. If your so smart you can :). And no, it doesn't slow it to a crawl. ;X I suggest learning more.
Originally posted by Anubis
I understand that. But that doesn't answer my question. What does windows virtual memory have to do with the amount of memory that steam uses?

Anubis
What does it do? It stops you from bitching about only having x amount ram, and not 1 gig. Heh. 512 is fine, you don't need any more unless you run photoshop with HUGE images, 3ds max or anything like that.

But what does it matter anyway? ;X people always bitch and moan on how their pc operates.
 
Instead of being a jerk morpherex, why don't you answer that question?

Anubis
 
i sense a flame war erupting...everyone grab their riot shield.. and btw erik has said before that they are improving the memory issue so its just a matter of waiting. also the more virtual memory u allocate, the faster your programs will run, it doesnt hurt to have a big swap file. all programs use at least a little vm.
 
Originally posted by Anubis
Instead of being a jerk morpherex, why don't you answer that question?

Anubis
Because there is no answer, his statement made no sense whatsoever in the context of this discussion and now he's just trying to blow a lot of smoke up everybody's asses so he doesn't look quite so retarded. A few people will be observe his cocky, self-assured tone and flurry of irrelevant technobabble and fail to notice that he is not only completely wrong, he's trying very hard to change the subject quickly before he is called upon to explain himself.
 
Originally posted by HeatMiser
Because there is no answer, his statement made no sense whatsoever in the context of this discussion and now he's just trying to blow a lot of smoke up everybody's asses so he doesn't look quite so retarded. A few people will be observe his cocky, self-assured tone and flurry of irrelevant technobabble and fail to notice that he is not only completely wrong, he's trying very hard to change the subject quickly before he is called upon to explain himself.
lol well put
 
This is simply not acceptable:

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Steam is a memory hog, and like others have said, it is slow, and continues to download updates (or appears to) for games marked "do not update". I finally got single player half-life to load, after waiting for it to start for 14 minutes.

I left the single player HL game, and tried counter-strike. A box popped up that said "Launching Counter-strike..." and stayed there for 30 minutes before I had to ctl-alt-del it and kill process. There was no network activity of any kind at this point.

It seems you have to kill the steam process after playing a game and restart it before you can play another. Even after killing the process it sometimes takes 10 minutes for the process to die.

Right now my Steam is busy running doing something, the only 2 games I have selected to auto-update are Half-Life and Counter-Strike, yet in the monitor I see it downloading something for the other games it shouldn't be. In the game properties, it says Half-Life and Counter-Strike are "Ready to Play", yet if I launch one it says it has to update them, wtf!?

I would rather go back to WON, at least it worked.
 
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