Strange thing about Iraq

[seinfeldrules]

seriously I dont know what you're asking/looking for

Say something nice about something George W. Bush has done while President. Do you need it to be simplified some more?

 

[Gorgon]

Hmmm... maybe... but I think the coalition will leave before that anyway, say.... 3-4 years :|

I'm sure you agree on this, too

Before that maybe, say next year ? :thumbs:

 

[Sgt_Shellback]

Before that maybe, say next year ? :thumbs:

Possibly... But more like 2-3 years... The Shiites look to be warming up to the political system now...

 

[CptStern]

jebus H Christ, what do you want me to do, lie?

he goes against everything I stand for: imperialistic foreign policy, destroying the fabric of personal freedom, enviromental bullying, heavy handed creationist moralizing, dangerous 3rd world aids policies, destructive enviromental policies, loosening of laws protecting endangered animals, same sex marriage bans etc

 

[Sgt_Shellback]

jebus H Christ, what do you want me to do, lie?

he goes against everything I stand for: imperialistic foreign policy, destroying the fabric of personal freedom, enviromental bullying, heavy handed creationist moralizing, dangerous 3rd world aids policies, destructive enviromental policies, loosening of laws protecting endangered animals, same sex marriage bans etc

You don't like his hair?

 

[CptStern]

his suits are nice ...a little too conservative for me though

 

[Razor]

Yep you are 100% right but these rebels are 75% of Iraq population.

Can you kill 20Million Iraqis in order to control the oil ? thats the question

That is utter jibberish and rubbish and i don't think you should joke about things along those lines. Most of the militants are not Iraqi, they are foreigners that are paid money to cause problems for the coalition. The religious fanatics in Iraq that are causing problems are most probably people that are trying to gain power, they see Iraq now as a power vaccuum and not a growing nation.

 

[seinfeldrules]

jebus H Christ, what do you want me to do, lie?

he goes against everything I stand for: imperialistic foreign policy, destroying the fabric of personal freedom, enviromental bullying, heavy handed creationist moralizing, dangerous 3rd world aids policies, destructive enviromental policies, loosening of laws protecting endangered animals, same sex marriage bans etc

Hm I'm not suprised in the least. You need to start opening you mind to new ideas if you cant find a single one. Being so liberal cant be good for your health. Lemme give the Bush Ambulance a call to help revive you

 

[Gorgon]

That is utter jibberish and rubbish and i don't think you should joke about things along those lines. Most of the militants are not Iraqi, they are foreigners that are paid money to cause problems for the coalition. The religious fanatics in Iraq that are causing problems are most probably people that are trying to gain power, they see Iraq now as a power vaccuum and not a growing nation.

Bullshit, Man you watch alot of CNN, BBC news. All wastern media tell lies and full of lies. Mehdy Army in Nejaf City 100% Iraqis, Proof ask Arabic people specialy Iraqis :monkee:

 

[dawdler]

he goes against everything I stand for: imperialistic foreign policy, destroying the fabric of personal freedom, enviromental bullying, heavy handed creationist moralizing, dangerous 3rd world aids policies, destructive enviromental policies, loosening of laws protecting endangered animals, same sex marriage bans etc

Well he is against what just about everyone stands for, but for some reason he is still the president, lol...

At any rate:

Apparently, the Iraq resistance feels that they can get along without trade, commerce or diplomacy. Allah will no doubt provide them with food, shelter and technology. Or whatever.

Ah, the talk of a "civilized" dude... People CAN live without trade, commerce or diplomacy. Allah does not provide, people do it themselves. 80% of the world population probably still live like this, yet it pass us by unnoticably...

 

[seinfeldrules]

All wastern media tell lies and full of lies.

Someone needs to jump off the conspiracy theory bandwagon and rejoin reality!

 

[CptStern]

Hm I'm not suprised in the least. You need to start opening you mind to new ideas if you cant find a single one. Being so liberal cant be good for your health. Lemme give the Bush Ambulance a call to help revive you

is that supposed to be witty?

I could say the same about you ...even more so ...even with all the evidence staring you in the face you refuse to see it ...that's right keep your blinders on

 

[Sgt_Shellback]

Bullshit, Man you watch alot of CNN, BBC news. All wastern media tell lies and full of lies. Mehdy Army in Nejaf City 100% Iraqis, Proof ask Arabic people specialy Iraqis :monkee:

I agree here... Najaf was an Iraqi movement at grabbing as much power as possible as the new govt. forms up... IMO The Shiite want a pure Democracy which, with their numbers, would put them in total control of the country...

With a Paralment or Republic their influence is somewhat tempered by the Sunnis and Kurds...

I don't think Western Media lied on this account... The truth was there... The talking heads spun it in different ways and people interpreted it wrong... But the raw news stories coming out on AP and Reuters didn't say anything more than Shiite uprising against the New Govt.

(Notice I don't consider what the talking heads say as a news report)

 

[Gorgon]

Someone needs to jump off the conspiracy theory bandwagon and rejoin reality!

Man, I 'm out of this SHIT HOLE. I don't want to argue with mindless brainwashed people. :rolling:

 

[Rupertvdb]

gorgon, you aren't exactly promoting yourself as a reasoned debater, just because Iraqi people say things and this goes against the grain of Western media does not make it correct, any one with a bit of sense is aware that the media is by its nature a biased organisation but to assume that this somehow validates opposing claims is ridiculous.

 

[seinfeldrules]

is that supposed to be witty?

I could say the same about you ...even more so ...even with all the evidence staring you in the face you refuse to see it ...that's right keep your blinders on

And posting a picture made by somebody else makes you witty? So original....

 

[seinfeldrules]

Man, I 'm out of this SHIT HOLE. I don't want to argue with mindless brainwashed people.

So how many millions of people do you think Bush has killed so far? Hmm and I'm brainwashed? Dont make me laugh.

 

[CptStern]

And posting a picture made by somebody else makes you witty? So original....

you never have anything poignant to bring to any of these debates; you just flame anyone who even remotely questions US foreign policy

 

[seinfeldrules]

you never have anything poignant to bring to any of these debates;

Yeah and your millions of pictures really help your side as well! Go get some more stern, prove your own inablitly to argue even further!

 

[Gorgon]

So how many millions of people do you think Bush has killed so far? Hmm and I'm brainwashed? Dont make me laugh.

this is my last post in this thread, So far:

ESTIMATION= over 10000 innocent killed and over 100000 innocent humiliated in prisons

the Number is rising by the hour.

 

[Sgt_Shellback]

The truth is there are some very bad people on this planet who will stop at nothing to harm others... People like that can't be ignored or talked out of thier ideals, they can only be dealt with in one way...

 

[Sgt_Shellback]

this is my last post in this thread, So far:

ESTIMATION= over 10000 innocent killed and over 100000 innocent humiliated in prisons

the Number is rising by the hour.

I agreed with you on the Najaf thing but here I think you're listening to the talking heads....

Look at Najaf for instances... Most of the Iraqi deaths were caused by Iraqi's... The uprising started when the Shiite's slaughtered and drove out the Iraqi police.

If it fits your perception better to think otherwise I wont change your mind but that is the truth.

 

[clarky003]

Someone needs to jump off the conspiracy theory bandwagon and rejoin reality!

what a statement, reality in our minds is constantly subjectual to change (look at the last 100 years), our reality isnt defined by what we believe, it already exisits, with or without us, and just because you think you can prove something uttered from people incharge of the world doesnt mean it is happening that way, One human's idealistic thought, or opinion doesnt change reality. it exist's no matter what you or I think, so that's statement is total BS, the reality of the situation is really not known. but your preaching that it is. so you cant state that the way you think is the truth of reality, its just obserd.

Its open to interogation, and there are factors on both sides of the argument, but doesnt that tell you someone's F in up with the info somewhere anyway. It's never as plain or as simple as military spoke men make out, or what Government's statement's will have you to believe, if you live close minded to this, your totally suseptable to being a tool of higher authority.

 

[CptStern]

Yeah and your millions of pictures really help your side as well! Go get some more stern, prove your own inablitly to argue even further!

please, I bring more to the table in one debate than all of your silly one sided posts combined.

 

[seinfeldrules]

please, I bring more to the table in one debate than all of your silly one sided posts combined.

I'm the one sided one? Who's the one who cant think of a single nice thing to say about Bush? Seems someone is a little hypocritical...

 

[seinfeldrules]

Speaking of pictures, I figured I might try Stern's approach!

The Secret Behind Kerry's Nomination

No Wonder Kerry Picked Edwards!

A New Documentary on Kerry/Edwards!?

Man now that I posted a few funny pictures I feel the debate is over. Wow, I did a wonderful job arguing my point. Go seinfeld :thumbs:

 

[CptStern]

I'm the one sided one? Who's the one who cant think of a single nice thing to say about Bush? Seems someone is a little hypocritical...

cuz that's a stupid request ...say one good thing about Noam Chomsky ...see how silly that sounds?


edit: bah at least I pick images that are appropriate to what we're discussing ...those images attack his cosmetic surgery for gods sakes ...what does that have to do with his political persona?

 

[clarky003]

Speaking of pictures, I figured I might try Stern's approach!

The Secret Behind Kerry's Nomination

No Wonder Kerry Picked Edwards!

A New Documentary on Kerry/Edwards!?

Man now that I posted a few funny pictures I feel the debate is over. Wow, I did a wonderful job arguing my point. Go seinfeld :thumbs:

heh, you have to be one of the most pathetic US republican's Ive ever had the experiance of seeing comment on a forum,, I suppose your like the rest, they get too frustrated, because essentially they love war. and that part of their nature fuels their agression against Democrats, so for lack of explaination (notusually having any) they resort in name calling and silly hoax articles that point fun. Totally Lame. I pitty all who think like this.

 

[Sgt_Shellback]

cuz that's a stupid request ...say one good thing about Noam Chomsky ...see how silly that sounds?


edit: bah at least I pick images that are appropriate to what we're discussing ...those images attack his cosmetic surgery for gods sakes ...what does that have to do with his political persona?

Kerry is running on nothing else so I'd say it's pertinent... ;-D

 

[seinfeldrules]

Clarky where were you when stern was posting similar things to help his argument. Oh man I love the irony in this. I make a sarcastic point and Clarky proves mine. Pictures dont win arguments.


PS Noam seems to be a very intelligent man. Doesnt mean I agree with him, but there is no arguing his credentials.

 

[CptStern]

heh I thought he was running on the "anything but bush" platform

 

[Sgt_Shellback]

heh I thought he was running on the "anything but bush" platform

I'll give you that one... I stand corrected.

 

[clarky003]

Clarky where were you when stern was posting similar things to help his argument. Oh man I love the irony in this. I make a sarcastic point and Clarky proves mine. Pictures dont win arguments.


PS Noam seems to be a very intelligent man. Doesnt mean I agree with him, but there is no arguing his credentials.

funny or not, I dont think it really is called for, its childish. when Cpt stern thought you where being serious you come up with childish mentality of poking at the superficial,..

 

[Sgt_Shellback]

funny or not, I dont think it really is called for, its childish. when Cpt stern thought you where being serious you come up with childish mentality of poking at the superficial,..

Come on be fair... I think the Skipper started it first. Did you save a "Shame on you" for him?

 

[CptStern]

Clarky where were you when stern was posting similar things to help his argument. Oh man I love the irony in this. I make a sarcastic point and Clarky proves mine. Pictures dont win arguments.

I never used any of the parody images to support my case ...that's silly, they're supposed to be satirical.

PS Noam seems to be a very intelligent man. Doesnt mean I agree with him, but there is no arguing his credentials.

so why is it so difficult to believe that I dont support Bush's policies?

 

[CptStern]

Come on be fair... I think the Skipper started it first. Did you save a "Shame on you" for him?

hehe check out the other political threads on the first page, I posted at least half a dozen images ...all tongue in cheek of course ..in truth I'm tired of debating the neo-conservatives (attitude not political affiliation) in our little community ...some but not all tend to have knee jerk reactions and questionable moral attitudes when it comes to islam and the war in iraq. In one of the threads someone advocated a holy war to rid the world of muslims ...it's hard to stay emotional detached from a debate when someone is advocating hate and prejudice

 

[seinfeldrules]

Its also hard to stay on topic when liberals feel that Bush is going to kill all the Iraqis for oil. Oh and cant forget the wonderful "Bush killed more Iraqis than Saddam" comment. Dont blame it all on "neo-conservatives".

 

[Sgt_Shellback]

hehe check out the other political threads on the first page, I posted at least half a dozen images ...all tongue in cheek of course ..in truth I'm tired of debating the neo-conservatives (attitude not political affiliation) in our little community ...some but not all tend to have knee jerk reactions and questionable moral attitudes when it comes to islam and the war in iraq. In one of the threads someone advocated a holy war to rid the world of muslims ...it's hard to stay emotional detached from a debate when someone is advocating hate and prejudice

I advocated a holy war to rid the world of all radical religious fanatics on both sides. Throw the far left and the far right into the fox holes and Eutopia would result afterwards.

 

[CptStern]

Its also hard to stay on topic when liberals feel that Bush is going to kill all the Iraqis for oil. Oh and cant forget the wonderful "Bush killed more Iraqis than Saddam" comment. Dont blame it all on "neo-conservatives".

there are far fewer liberal attacks on bush in these forums than conservative attacks on Kerry.

oh and I'm not a liberal supporter (kerry/democrats) I am anti-war, anti imperialism, anti american foreign policy ...dont confuse the two

 

[CptStern]

I advocated a holy war to rid the world of all radical religious fanatics on both sides. Throw the far left and the far right into the fox holes and Eutopia would result afterwards.

I actually meant SaL

although you do realize you'd have to throw in the right wing christian coalition into the fray, right? ...if that's the case, I'm in agreement