Subtle quotes with BIG meanings

Do Shepard and Gordon know about eachother? Could Shepard have bartered himself to G-man so he would release Freeman?
 
"Forget about Freeman"
"Maybe we'll get a shot at Freeman on the way out"
That's all Shephard knows about Freeman.
 
ríomhaire said:
"Forget about Freeman"
"Maybe we'll get a shot at Freeman on the way out"
That's all Shephard knows about Freeman.
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And how he looks from directly behind in an HEV suit without a long-jump module.
 
A True Canadian said:
Odd that G-Man and the Vortiguant are seen communicating with each other, especially with what happens to start Episode 1. One could view this as foreshadowing. That quote by the Vortiguant I mentioned on the 1st page may tie into this, especially if it was referring to the G-Man as a master.

As for the time travel stuff, I think that's false. I doubt the G-Man or the Vortiguants can travel through time. They may be able to wander through different dimensions, but if they were capable of time travel, they could go back and re-write history to better suit them. The Vorts could prevent themselves from becoming slaves, and the G-Man could solve his problems too. Of course if they did possess such power, I doubt they'd use it for the fact that doing so would likely result in a paradox.
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However if you look at string theory, which aparantly is found to be true in the halflife setting according to mossman. Circumventing time is simply a matter of maneuvering through the fourth dimension. Its not time travel per say, as it is being able to observe all times at once and manifest wherever you like. The gman definitely seems to be able to do this. The vortigaunts, however cannot do this. They can only think 4 dimensionally. Remember "We see you now in the nihilanth's chamber?" or how they managed to astrally project themselves to block the gman? This means that although their bodies interact with everything normally. Their group consciousness percieves things at a 4 dimensional level. its the equivalent of knowing everything you will ever do and have done till the day you die, and being conscious of every moment you experience in a simultaneous manner.
 
Hey, it seems when i go around this forum i see Shepard popping up, and see it on people's sigs. I didn't even play Opposing Force and frankly i dont want to now, i got the wrong idea completely like i said!
 
"Didn't you realize your contract was open to the highest bidder?" -Wallace Breen during Gordon's capture in the Citidel.


Just curious, what would the bid be?

I highly doubt it has anything to do with money, as it would be useless to Gman.

Perhaps the person who hired Gordon promised the Gman a favour that he couldn't refuse, or something.
 
Cube said:
"Didn't you realize your contract was open to the highest bidder?" -Wallace Breen during Gordon's capture in the Citidel.


Just curious, what would the bid be?

I highly doubt it has anything to do with money, as it would be useless to Gman.

Perhaps the person who hired Gordon promised the Gman a favour that he couldn't refuse, or something.
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Someone better than Gordon? Part of the Combine Empire? I don't think the G-Man cares who's side Gordon is on. If it was part of the Empire (a couple of planets, or a synth or summat) that begs the question: What would the resistance give him? The Combine have so much to offer him...what do the resistance have?
 
Flyingdebris said:
However if you look at string theory, which aparantly is found to be true in the halflife setting according to mossman. Circumventing time is simply a matter of maneuvering through the fourth dimension. Its not time travel per say, as it is being able to observe all times at once and manifest wherever you like. The gman definitely seems to be able to do this. The vortigaunts, however cannot do this. They can only think 4 dimensionally. Remember "We see you now in the nihilanth's chamber?" or how they managed to astrally project themselves to block the gman? This means that although their bodies interact with everything normally. Their group consciousness percieves things at a 4 dimensional level. its the equivalent of knowing everything you will ever do and have done till the day you die, and being conscious of every moment you experience in a simultaneous manner.
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The capabilities of the Vortiguants are becoming quite confusing. They only have the power to think in the 4th dimension or "project" themselves, but how is it possible they can move both Gordon and Alyx from some location if it's just a projection?

Perhaps the key here is the colour of the Vortiguants that rescue Alyx and Gordon. They're purple, unique, and are possibly a different class of Vortiguant than the ones we've been seeing thus far.

Here's an interesting thought. If the Vortigaunts are coterminous and share all consciousness, does that include the other Vorts that are still on Xen or even on their home planet? Are the Vortiguants able to see and maybe even speak to each other across dimensions? Maybe while they were slaves they weren't able to do this, but ever since they were liberated, are they now able to do the things they were once capable of?

Could the slow teleport that Gordon and Alyx went through be another clue? Ever since that teleporter mishap occured in Nova Prospekt, the Vortiguants have mysteriously disappeared (save for the Episode 1 rescue of course). With Gordon supposedly blown up in Nova Prospekt, and the Resistance's best weapon lost, is it possible that the Vorts finally decided to go to plan B...the purple Vortiguants? That is of course if the purple Vorts are true and the purple is not just a side-effect of "projection" to another dimensional plane.

Blah I'm confusing myself with these silly theories.
 
mortiz said:
How the hell you get in contact with the G-Man in the first place remains a mystery too.
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well he was wandering about black mesa, probably cos he wanted to cause the RC. maybe Eli and Kleiner met him there? or he started talking to them, explained who and what he is etc (im sure kleiner and eli would be shitting themselves when he ttells them that) and the services he offers, the fate of humanity etc. then he makes them an offer they cant refuse.. the offer of gordon freeman? this is a ropey guess of course.
 
another quote that could have alot more meaning from gman- "the right man in the wrong place can make all the difference" we assume he means Gordon, but he could easily mean himself. he was wandering around bm, slightly out of place, and if he wasnt there gordon wouldnt have been put in stasis by him.
 
"And all the effort in the world would have gone to waste until...The right man in the wrong place can make all the difference in the world"
IMO it means that Gordon is the right man but putting him in the wrong situation (the 7 Hour War) would have done nothing as all the effort in the world couldn't have stopped the Combine from taking Earth then but right now (ie, C17, ~10 years on) is the right place.
 
Some very provocative theories here that, at the very least, intensify my curiosity in Half-Life's sensational story.

Just wanted to add my thoughts on this particular subject.

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The G-Man represents an opposing force to the combine; be it of a conflicting empire with similar intentions, or perhaps an earth-bound, inter galactic or interdimensional body of law.

Although it's debatable whether or not the G-Man is using Gordon to benifit the resistance, it is abundantly clear that the G-Man's work throughout both Half-Lifes has been to the detriment of the combine.

I think this distinction is important. It clarifies that although the G-Man and his weapon is the main catalyst for the freedom of earth in HL2, in both chapters the G-man and Freeman work to slow or even halt the Combine's growing empire.

The timing of the G-Man's interventions is a helpful insight into his intentions. Obviously, the G-Man only captures Gordon when he has completed his work. Both chapters end with the combine loosing an administrator (Nihalinth and Breen.) The death of the Nihalinth freed the Vortiguants and the death of Breen has sparked earth's revolution (as seen in Episodes 1 &2.)


There is further evidence to consider:


G-Man instructs Odessa to aid Gordon with a rocket launcher, an essential weapon for Gordon in reaching the Citadel, and ultimately terminate Breen and the Dark Fusion Reactor.

G-man attempts to stop the resonance cascade in HL1. (The resonance cascade is what attracted the combine to earth.) Though it is argued he could have done it himself, his actions are rarely, or never, direct. He gives Odessa instructions, he places Gordon into City 17, he pursuades gordon to enter the portal, and in this instance he tries to pursuade a scientist to stop the experiment.

G-Man thanks Gordon at the end of HL as Xen is again under his control, the Combine's enslavement of Xen's refugees is over. He cares to add 'for the time being', a referance to the combine's efficient and incessant imperialistic enterprise.

The nature of The G-Man's puppeteering is entirely secretive. As far as we know the combine have no knowladge of his presence on Earth or Xen. Why would a man, with his obvious power, shy from the combines watchful eye? It adds fuel to the assumption that The G-Man's masters and the combine are aware of each other.

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Of course, this changes at the end of HL2.

"I've recieved some interesting offers for your services. Ordinarily I wouldn't accept them."
 
Rob Crossley said:
Some very provocative theories here that, at the very least, intensify my curiosity in Half-Life's sensational story.

Just wanted to add my thoughts on this particular subject.
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Welcome to the forums Rob Crossley! :D

Rob Crossley said:
There is further evidence to consider:


G-Man instructs Odessa to aid Gordon with a rocket launcher, an essential weapon for Gordon in reaching the Citadel, and ultimately terminate Breen and the Dark Fusion Reactor.
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This is probably the best theory thus far as to the purpose of G-Man visiting Odessa. The rocket launcher is essential in taking down those gunships and one of the only reasons Gordon would be able to survive an assault on Nova Prospekt and later the Citadel. Gordon encounters a gunship at New Little Odessa, one on the coastline by the cliffbase, one at the bridge, and two on his way into Nova Prospekt. So it was at that moment that Gordon needed that weapon in order to continue. Not to mention a rocket launcher is the only feasible way to take down a strider as well.

Rob Crossley said:
G-man attempts to stop the resonance cascade in HL1. (The resonance cascade is what attracted the combine to earth.) Though it is argued he could have done it himself, his actions are rarely, or never, direct. He gives Odessa instructions, he places Gordon into City 17, he pursuades gordon to enter the portal, and in this instance he tries to pursuade a scientist to stop the experiment.
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Gordon encounters the G-Man twice before the Resonance Cascade (technically 3 times if you count the Hazard Course). Once on the tram ride in, and again through a glass window from the corridor that would eventually lead Gordon to his first encounter with the Houndeyes. In both those cases he can be seen with a scientist. G-Man was obviously trying to do something, but was he trying to start a Resonance Cascade or stop one from happening? I think it's the former, and I'll tell you why.

Someone was responsible for overloading the test chamber that day. Someone authorized adjusting the Anti-Mass spectrometer to 105% and someone was responsible for changing the process for testing unstable subjects.

"We'll be deviating a bit from standard analysis procedures today Gordon."

There's only two people who could have had the power to sanction such changes: The G-Man and Wallace Breen (a.k.a. the Administrator).

"The administrator is very concerned that we get a conclusive analysis of today's sample. I gather they went to some lengths to get it."

Now why would Breen generate a Resonance Cascade on one of the purest samples they've seen yet? Furthermore why would Breen want to overload the spectrometer? The quote also illustrates Breen's concerns. He wants a conductive analysis afterall.

So if Breen didn't start the Resonance Cascade, then it must have been the G-Man. Gordon is under the G-Man's surveillance before the Resonance Cascade occurs. The text that flashes on the opening screens listing Gordon's attributes helps to reinforce this claim. Secondly, if we are to include the Hazard Course as canon, G-Man can be seen watching Gordon train. Similarly in Opposing Force's Boot Camp, the G-Man moves Adrian Shephard to a more advanced squad (a squad that would eventually be sent to Black Mesa).

When we saw the G-Man talking to the scientists during Half-Life's intro, it's likely that he's convincing them to delay the test until Gordon arrives. There were other scientists who could have taken Gordon's place (Gina Cross and Coilette Green from the Decay expansion pack for instance).

"Weren't you supposed to be in the test chamber half an hour ago?"

Afterall, it's not like they really needed to wait for Gordon's "expertise" here. Barney even mocks this whole scenario in Half-Life 2. :p

Everything seems to point to the G-Man initiating the Resonace Cascade. For some reason, he wanted Nihilanth gone from the borderworld. To remove Nihilanth from power, he needed someone to do it for him, which is why G-Man created a list of potential subjects to take him out. There's no way we'll know how many people were under G-Man's watch, but we know for sure of the big 3: Barney Calhoun, Adrian Shephard, and Gordon Freeman. I'm sure even the G-Man was surprised that Gordon was the most successful, despite having less munitions training than the others.

Anyway, I'm confident that the G-Man persuaded the science team to inadvertantly trigger the Resonance Cascade. Preventing it from happening seems to counter-act all the other stuff I've mentioned.

Rob Crossley said:
G-Man thanks Gordon at the end of HL as Xen is again under his control, the Combine's enslavement of Xen's refugees is over. He cares to add 'for the time being', a referance to the combine's efficient and incessant imperialistic enterprise.
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"The borderworld, Xen, is in our control for the time being."

With Nihilanth gone, G-Man and his forces are thus able to move more freely around Xen. I suspect that Nihilanth was closing off most of the access to Xen (just like he was keeping the Combine out). However, I'm still not sure why G-Man would want Xen under his control.

When he says "for the time being" he probably IS referring to outside parties like the Combine. Without Nihilanth to keep most of the gateways shut, Xen becomes more accessible. It's kind of like losing the Firewall to your computer.

This picture is important in that it reveals that some of Earth's military was sent to Xen after Nihilanth's demise:

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What's interesting is that the portal storms would have been triggered by now, meaning Xen's population is slowly being transported away. What's even more interesting is that the Combine pretty much ignore Xen and go straight for Earth. But G-Man doesn't care does he? It appears that he was after Xen all along. ;)

Rob Crossley said:
The nature of The G-Man's puppeteering is entirely secretive. As far as we know the combine have no knowladge of his presence on Earth or Xen. Why would a man, with his obvious power, shy from the combines watchful eye? It adds fuel to the assumption that The G-Man's masters and the combine are aware of each other.
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The G-Man's motives are suspect at best. Gordon eliminates Nihilanth for him, so G-Man "thanks" Gordon by imprisoning him in stasis. Adrian effectively keeps the pests known as Race-X at bay (even destroying the Gene Worm), so G-Man removes Adrian from the impending nuclear explosion and places him into stasis. Barney escapes from the G-Man's clutches with Dr. Rosenberg and company, but the G-Man doesn't even attempt to bring him back. I haven't played Decay yet but I'm sure there are other G-Man elements in there as well.

I would think the G-Man's masters know of the Combine. If the G-Man knew of Nihilanth and where it came from, he surely knows about Combine enslavement.

Rob Crossley said:
Of course, this changes at the end of HL2.

"I've recieved some interesting offers for your services. Ordinarily I wouldn't accept them."
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Well it has been about a 20 decade gap between the Resonance Cascade and the Citadel's destruction. Not sure why he's kept Gordon from taking any offers for so long. G-Man must have received offers he couldn't refuse... :O
 
Alot of people seem to think the Military were sent to Xen, but I completely disagree. Sure, we saw some corpses, a truck and a plane - but in the very same spot and on sand? I dunno.
 
Yeah, but take a look in the back! I dont think you can see that, whatever it is on earth!
 
Hey True Canadian, Some really interesting theories.

Concerning the list of suspects that initiated the resonace cascade, we are in agreement. It was either Breen or The G-Man. You make some good points to consider that it was the G-Man, which has simply confused me! But there are some loose ends that I hope we could sort out:

1. There is a system crash at the very beginning of the game. It prevents scientists communicating to each other throughout Black Mesa.

2. The G-Man sound files reveal that, on the second sighting, he says to the scientist "You are a coward and a fraud."

3. Breen gambled with his employee's lives to get the sample. The gravity of such a situation begs the question; was this forfeit purely in the interest of science, or something more. Something bigger?

4. Breen is the only human to benifit from the Combine Invasion, triggered from the resonace cascade.

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I'm Still in the dark concerning the resonance cascade, as both Breen and The G-Man benifited from it.

But here are some things I am certain of:

The Vortigaunts were slaves to the Combine, represented by the green shackles they wore around the arms and neck. (These are absent in HL2.)

The Nihalinth was the leader, the controller, the lesser master of the Vortiguants. He too wore shackles.

'All-Knowing-Vortiguant' Quotes:
"While our own lay scattered at your feet, you severed the vortal cord that bound the Nihilanth to life, and to us."
"That sharp spur of hope has not dulled to this day. For once the lesser master lay defeated, we knew the greater must also fall in time."

Thus, the combine were in control of Xen. Gordon Freed it and the G-Man was happy with this.

The Combine control planets and galaxies in a distinct way: They hunt the strongest species. They elect an administrator to control that species (Breen and the Nihalinth.) They control the planet with it's own species while they watch from a dstance.

The combine were in control of Earth. Gordon Freed it and the G-Man was happy with this.

In light of this, I would like to argue the bizzare assumption that Gordon Freeman was employed by someone other than the G-Man in HL2. Gordon's work in HL2 is to the benifit of the G-Man (and indirectly to humans.) The reason for the length in which Gordon is in stasis is purly because the G-Man waits for the perfect moment.

"Let's just say your hour has come again."

"Funny you showing up on this day in particular." -Alyx

"Time, Mr Freeman?"

"The right man in the wrong place can make all the diference in the world."

The G-Man and the Vortiguants can see through time, the past and present, as much as they can walk though space.

Again the All-Knowing-Vortiguant:
"No false veil of space or time may intervene."
"We see you in Black Mesa, clearly we see you in the Nihalint's chamber."

Their similar powers are made explicitly clear in Episode 1.

Your belief that The Nihalinth repressed access to Xen is equally quashed for many reasons. What should be obvious to you is that The G-Man wanted the Combine's control of Xen end. As much he wanted the Combine's control of Earth to end.

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Thanks for the photo, again it confused me at first. I will give it plenty of thought. I trust it will all make sense in the course of......
well.......
I'm really not, at liberty to say :)
 
another thing in breens case, one of the scientists once said to me in black mesa, at the stairs before the stationary turret in we got hostiles (dont know if thats relevant) "I knew we shouldn't have pushed the machines so far, but the administrator wouldn't take no for an answer" or something along those lines.
so lets take this theory- breen somehow knew about/had contact with the combine, knew they wanted to get at xen, the combine knew that BM were experimenting with teleportation technology that could get em there, and instructed him to cause the resonance cascade, getting all the xenians outta there and also using the humans to kill lots of 'em too.
 
i rememver one vortigaunt saying in hl2 me once
"you and me serve the same mystery" or something with those lines.
this what hit my head in that second

guess. "mystery" -
who do gordon serve? = mystery
does gordon have a master? = mystery.

think about it.
could it be that g-man is an spokesperson of the higher personality?.

Now to the second thing:
the vortigaunts in the beginning of the Hl1 are in color pretty same to the Episode one vortigaunts at the beginning. = same guys?
They didn't attack you, but it looked like they were staying AROUND you, making a circle.

BTW, love this thread, im not that good like you with secrets, but i had to try. :D
 
Rob Crossley said:
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I'm Still in the dark concerning the resonance cascade, as both Breen and The G-Man benifited from it.

But here are some things I am certain of:

The Vortigaunts were slaves to the Combine, represented by the green shackles they wore around the arms and neck. (These are absent in HL2.)
The Nihalinth was the leader, the controller, the lesser master of the Vortiguants. He too wore shackles.

'All-Knowing-Vortiguant' Quotes:
"While our own lay scattered at your feet, you severed the vortal cord that bound the Nihilanth to life, and to us."
"That sharp spur of hope has not dulled to this day. For once the lesser master lay defeated, we knew the greater must also fall in time."

Thus, the combine were in control of Xen. Gordon Freed it and the G-Man was happy with this.

The Combine control planets and galaxies in a distinct way: They hunt the strongest species. They elect an administrator to control that species (Breen and the Nihalinth.) They control the planet with it's own species while they watch from a dstance.

The combine were in control of Earth. Gordon Freed it and the G-Man was happy with this.

In light of this, I would like to argue the bizzare assumption that Gordon Freeman was employed by someone other than the G-Man in HL2. Gordon's work in HL2 is to the benifit of the G-Man (and indirectly to humans.) The reason for the length in which Gordon is in stasis is purly because the G-Man waits for the perfect moment.

"Let's just say your hour has come again."

"Funny you showing up on this day in particular." -Alyx

"Time, Mr Freeman?"

"The right man in the wrong place can make all the diference in the world."

The G-Man and the Vortiguants can see through time, the past and present, as much as they can walk though space.

Again the All-Knowing-Vortiguant:
"No false veil of space or time may intervene."
"We see you in Black Mesa, clearly we see you in the Nihalint's chamber."

Their similar powers are made explicitly clear in Episode 1.

Your belief that The Nihalinth repressed access to Xen is equally quashed for many reasons. What should be obvious to you is that The G-Man wanted the Combine's control of Xen end. As much he wanted the Combine's control of Earth to end.

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Thanks for the photo, again it confused me at first. I will give it plenty of thought. I trust it will all make sense in the course of......
well.......
I'm really not, at liberty to say :)
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COMBINE. NOT. CONTROL. XEN. DURING. EVENTS. OF. HALF. LIFE.
 
Samon said:
Alot of people seem to think the Military were sent to Xen, but I completely disagree. Sure, we saw some corpses, a truck and a plane - but in the very same spot and on sand? I dunno.
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I think this could of been a consequence of the random portals found around Black Mesa, when the Resanonce Cascade originally starts Gordon is taken to Xen and back, this could of happened to those trucks and corpses.

And no, I also don't think the soliders were actually sent to Xen.

EDIT: The sand though... Hmm... Perhaps the rocky surface of Xen is just a shell to sand underneath? But that's speculating too far.
 
Ya, 'tis doubtful that Combine controlled Xen. Nihilith fled from the Combine, to Xen, where either he ursurped remaining Vortigaunt civilisation or just brought it with him. I'm not totally sure that Vortigaunts are Xenian natives, anyway.
 
Danimal said:
I think this could of been a consequence of the random portals found around Black Mesa, when the Resanonce Cascade originally starts Gordon is taken to Xen and back, this could of happened to those trucks and corpses..
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S'actly.
 
Jintor said:
Ya, 'tis doubtful that Combine controlled Xen. Nihilith fled from the Combine, to Xen, where either he ursurped remaining Vortigaunt civilisation or just brought it with him. I'm not totally sure that Vortigaunts are Xenian natives, anyway.
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I remember a theory about old Nihtrsthdshiewrtgdsahhaetiayietaeian:

1) Yeah, he was under combine control for a period of time, as he was shackles around his wrists

2) He is covered in stitches, and is far more bloated and larger in size comparead to other of his species found on Xen, this could mean that the Combine tried to alter him with technology kind of like the Combine Overlords you see flying around at the end of HL2: EP1, one is also seen in HL2.

(Load them in Model Viewer, you'll see what I mean with the bloatiness and stitches.)

It was a good theory and it had alot more good points that I forgot. :<
 
Danimal said:
I remember a theory about old Nihtrsthdshiewrtgdsahhaetiayietaeian:

1) Yeah, he was under combine control for a period of time, as he was shackles around his wrists

2) He is covered in stitches, and is far more bloated and larger in size comparead to other of his species found on Xen, this could mean that the Combine tried to alter him with technology kind of like the Combine Overlords you see flying around at the end of HL2: EP1, one is also seen in HL2.

(Load them in Model Viewer, you'll see what I mean with the bloatiness and stitches.)

It was a good theory and it had alot more good points that I forgot. :<
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There are no stitches on any Combine thing we have ever seen, not even stalkers. The stitches on the advisor are clearly on his 'body-sock', not his skin.
 
Danimal said:
EDIT: The sand though... Hmm... Perhaps the rocky surface of Xen is just a shell to sand underneath? But that's speculating too far.
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I think some parts of Xen are sandy, cause there are antlions and they just love Sand.
 
ríomhaire said:
There are no stitches on any Combine thing we have ever seen, not even stalkers. The stitches on the advisor are clearly on his 'body-sock', not his skin.
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Combine soldiers look like they have stitches on their chest (unarmored model).
 
threadstarter, refrain from shallow and simple observations and analysis
 
1) About the sand in HL1, I'm sure that's just a mapmaking fault since one level can only have one sky and the slightly greensih-blackish one seemed most suitable to use in both Xen and on Earth (the sand).

2) AFAIK Barney was never under G-Man control (whoever stated that a few pages back). He only saw G-man once at the beginning and (if I recall correctly) G-man didn't even look at him. Plus he made it out from Black Mesa alive with Rosenberg and the other 2 doctors.
 
One thing I see happening is the slow intorduction of other Combine Races / worlds... Xen itself was the borderworld, G-Man himself wanted to control it - to 'port his forces from world to world.
Also with the borderworld in nobody's hands the rebels could use it to fling movements to other worlds taken by the Combine?
 
evilsloth said:
One thing I see happening is the slow intorduction of other Combine Races / worlds... Xen itself was the borderworld, G-Man himself wanted to control it - to 'port his forces from world to world.
Also with the borderworld in nobody's hands the rebels could use it to fling movements to other worlds taken by the Combine?
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Who said the boarderwolds is in nobody's hands? If I had to bet I'd put my money on the Combine having it.
 
A True Canadian said:
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"I expected more warning." -Isaac Kleiner after learning of Gordon's arrival.

Kleiner seems rather surprised about Gordon's arrival, but at the same time was expecting more forewarning. Was Kleiner simply expecting Gordon to arrive with a bang instead of at a trainsation being shipped off to a prison? Or was Kleiner seriously expecting Gordon to arrive at some date that had yet to be given to him? The HEV suit he was working on suggests that he really was expecting Gordon to arrive soon. But why would Kleiner be expecting Gordon soon if Gordon hadn't been seen since the Black Mesa Incident two decades ago?

Is it possible that the G-Man notified Kleiner of Gordon's future arrival and gave him Gordon's HEV suit to upgrade? A later quote stating that Gordon's "old suit still fits [him] like a glove" seems to suggest so.

Eli is also rather amazed that Gordon arrives, but his elation is far less than that of Isaac Kleiner or even Barney. One of the theories out there is that Eli hired Gordon's services from the G-Man, but if that were the case then wouldn't he know of when Gordon would arrive? Maybe he's just surprised that his deal with the G-Man actually worked?

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I think Kleiner meant that someone might have known that Gordon would come to City 17, and then inform him. It fits with the G-Man placing him on the train, anyway.
 
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