Suspect terrorists go away for good

CptStern said:
you really are an idiot ...do you realize you're defending a nazi? ernst zundel is a holocaust denier and a hate monger ..he also happens to be the leader of the largest white power group in canada and has been charged time and again with disseminating hate propaganda


ya'll are the ones bitching about people being held indefinitely, I hold up an example of another person being held without being chargedby a nation that is a critic of us. Zundel is guilty of nothing other than being a moronic buffoon as far as I can tell.

Denying the holocaust is a crime? Dissemenating propagand is a crime? Thankfully not here in the US, at least we have free speech or is that something that you believe in only as long as you agree with what's being said?

HYPOCRITE

Canaduh land of hypocrisy not democracy.
 
yes, disseminating hate propaganda is a crime in canada but they couldnt make the charges stick because his base of operations was in the US ...still doesnt excuse defending a nazi

the next time you call someone a hypocrite maybe you should do a little introspection ...tell me ....how do you justify this?

"We will make no distinction between the terrorists who committed these acts and those who harbor them. " - George W Bush

G H Bush pardons wanted terrorist
 
CptStern said:
yes, disseminating hate propaganda is a crime in canada but they couldnt make the charges stick because his base of operations was in the US ...still doesnt excuse defending a nazi

I'm not defending him. I'm pointing out the fact that he is languishing in prison without being charged with a crime.

CptStern said:
the next time you call someone a hypocrite maybe you should do a little introspection ...tell me ....how do you justify this?

"We will make no distinction between the terrorists who committed these acts and those who harbor them. " - George W Bush

G H Bush pardons wanted terrorist

I already responded to that in another thread. My gut tells me that Orlando Bosch deserved DEATH for that act. But we do not know what the details were behind the bombing. Who was on the plane? Why was it bombed? Was it CIA sanctioned? What are the details? We likely will never know. Our govt. does things, sometimes terrible things, to protect us they do this because to not do them would put us in jeopardy. I do not like the fact that that is the way it is, but that is the way that it is.
 
bliink said:
What happened to "innocent until proven guilty"? how do you even know they came from Afghanistan and not the streets of Chicago?? nothings gone through a court



Since when did the constitution apply to non-US citizens?

What makes you so sure that these people being detained are US Citizens? Give me a source.

Unless you are american innocent until proven guilty doesn't apply, neither does free speech, speedy trial, habeus corpus, none of that.

During WWII no republicans said anything about Nazi's right to a fair trial. If anyone did they would have been outcast. Terrorists are worse than Nazis. Why are you helping them out?
 
Scoobnfl said:
I'm not defending him. I'm pointing out the fact that he is languishing in prison without being charged with a crime.

no that article was old ..see the US deported him because they saw him as a security risk, they also barred his entry into the US for 20 years even though his wife is an american

I agree, CSIS has a lot ot answer to such as when they illegally helped the US ship a canadian citizen to be tortured in syria...the difference between you and I is that I acknowledge when my government screws up ..you just think everything your country does is justifiable which is seldom the case



Scoobnfl said:
I already responded to that in another thread. My gut tells me that Orlando Bosch deserved DEATH for that act. But we do not know what the details were behind the bombing.

just look it up, he also commited acts of terrorism on US soil ...such as the assination of Orlando Letelier, the former Chilean Foreign Minister


Scoobnfl said:
Who was on the plane?

civilians, students, women and children

Scoobnfl said:
Why was it bombed?

anti-cuban

Scoobnfl said:
Was it CIA sanctioned?

it could have been but I doubt it

Scoobnfl said:
What are the details? We likely will never know.

look them up they're all there.

Scoobnfl said:
Our govt. does things, sometimes terrible things, to protect us they do this because to not do them would put us in jeopardy. I do not like the fact that that is the way it is, but that is the way that it is.

using that logic you could say that 9/11 was a pre-emptive strike ..it's hypocritical to chastise one nation for committing horrible misdeeds yet turn a blind eye on your own skeletons
 
CptStern said:
no that article was old ..see the US deported him because they saw him as a security risk, they also barred his entry into the US for 20 years even though his wife is an american

I agree, CSIS has a lot ot answer to such as when they illegally helped the US ship a canadian citizen to be tortured in syria...the difference between you and I is that I acknowledge when my government screws up ..you just think everything your country does is justifiable which is seldom the case

the fact that he is languishing in prison without being charged doesn't bother you?

Yet the suspects caught on the battlefield fighting for AQ and the taliban that are being held in Gitmo does?

This is clear and convinicng evidence of your blatant hypocrisy and double standard on which you choose to judge/criticize the USA.

I hardly agree with everything that my country does. I do believe that the decisions/actions that my country takes are by and large done with the intent of our best interest being served, and I'm fine with that.

An exception to the above would be pretty much everything that occurred under Jimmy Carters administration.



CptStern said:
just look it up, he also commited acts of terrorism on US soil ...such as the assination of Orlando Letelier, the former Chilean Foreign Minister




civilians, students, women and children



anti-cuban



it could have been but I doubt it



look them up they're all there.

I've already said that without knowing 100% of the facts behind it, I think he deserved the death penalty rather than a pardon. My gut tells me that it was an operation carried out for a specific target that was on that plane. To me that does not justify it, again he should have been executed for the crime.

CptStern said:
using that logic you could say that 9/11 was a pre-emptive strike ..it's hypocritical to chastise one nation for committing horrible misdeeds yet turn a blind eye on your own skeletons

I guess it could be if you want to ignore the
WTC 1 in feb. 93
AQ involvement in Somalia (black hawk down)
KHOBAR TOWERS BOMBING '96
EMBASSY BOMBINGS IN AFRICA '98
USS COLE BOMBING '00

Pre-emptive? how in sweet ****all can you even blather this drivel?

AQ was at war with us for 7 fawkin years while clintooon chased fatassed interns around the oral office playin hide the havanna. 9/11 occurred because we practiced the BS doctrine of do nothing that you believe in. Hell Canada is a safe have and breeding ground for the Islamofascists, ya'll even allow the practice of Sharia lawin Canaduh, ya'll are loons really..

If ya'll don't want to help in the war on terror at least STFU and stay the phuck out of the way. :|
 
Scoobnfl said:
the fact that he is languishing in prison without being charged doesn't bother you?

well to tell the truth, I thought he was still in the US ..hadnt heard anything about him in years ...I dont agree with holding of prisoners without charging them ...in fact canada has done before when they handed over a "suspected" terrorist to the US who then deported him to syria to be tortured and eventually released a year later ...but you'd know that cuz I mentioned it before yet you chose to ignore it

Scoobnfl said:
Yet the suspects caught on the battlefield fighting for AQ and the taliban that are being held in Gitmo does?

well they couldnt all be in AQ because why would they release some of them? without charges?

"This brings the total number of detainees released so far to 119."

why would intelligence officers admit some of the prisoners had no ties to the taliban and AQ if it was actually true?

Scoobnfl said:
This is clear and convinicng evidence of your blatant hypocrisy and double standard on which you choose to judge/criticize the USA.

the zundel thingy? I already said I didnt support his imprisonment ..but since he's guilty of greater crimes I wont lose any sleep ..still doesnt constitute as hypocracy because I've admitted that I dont support it ..so what else are you going to try to pin on me ...btw dont think for a second I forgot about how you dodged my accusation that you're a hypocrite

Scoobnfl said:
I hardly agree with everything that my country does. I do believe that the decisions/actions that my country takes are by and large done with the intent of our best interest being served, and I'm fine with that.

even if it means your being a hypocrite?

“If You Harbor Terrorists, You Are a Terrorist” - George Bush



Scoobnfl said:
I've already said that without knowing 100% of the facts behind it, I think he deserved the death penalty rather than a pardon. My gut tells me that it was an operation carried out for a specific target that was on that plane. To me that does not justify it, again he should have been executed for the crime.


you dont seem to undersand the connection ..let's try this again:


“If You Harbor Terrorists, You Are a Terrorist” - George Bush



Scoobnfl said:
I guess it could be if you want to ignore the
WTC 1 in feb. 93
AQ involvement in Somalia (black hawk down)
KHOBAR TOWERS BOMBING '96
EMBASSY BOMBINGS IN AFRICA '98
USS COLE BOMBING '00

who made who?

Scoobnfl said:
Pre-emptive? how in sweet ****all can you even blather this drivel?

knee-jerk reaction based on a knee-jerk interpretation of what I said

Scoobnfl said:
AQ was at war with us for 7 fawkin years while clintooon chased fatassed interns around the oral office playin hide the havanna.

you really are an ass and a hypocrite ..bush kills over a 1000 of your fellow americans and he's a hero yet you'll redicule clinton based on his sexual escapades? did you realise the rest of the world was laughing at you? prudes ..we would have all said "who ****ing cares"


Scoobnfl said:
9/11 occurred because we practiced the BS doctrine of do nothing that you believe in.

nope 9/11 occured because your meddling upset a hornet's nest

Scoobnfl said:
Hell Canada is a safe have and breeding ground for the Islamofascists,


:upstare: you're a drooling idiot ..I dont go for those nationalism jabs because I'm a pragmatist and see things for what they are ..but I dont expecxt you to understand as the sound of jackboots slapping at attention probably has you enthralled


Scoobnfl said:
ya'll even allow the practice of Sharia lawin Canaduh, ya'll are loons really..

idiot, get your facts straight, it adheres to the arbitration act but still has to include independent consul ..it is permissable in some disputes (mostly marital) because it is based on the right to adhere to religious laws which is in the charter of freedoms ..but I dont expect you to understand it because to you every muslim is a terrorist

Scoobnfl said:
If ya'll don't want to help in the war on terror at least STFU and stay the phuck out of the way. :|

the war on terror ..what a ****ing joke ..you really are guilible ..you will never win ..look to any country that's had to deal with terrorism ..you will just add fuel to the fire. You caused it ..you deal with it ..good luck with that
 
After his capture this guy and many like him were held in prison indefinately. Without trial. Without right of appeal. Without legal represtation.

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Sgt_Shellback said:
After his capture this guy and many like him were held in prison indefinately. Without trial. Without right of appeal. Without legal represtation.

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they were soldiers, they should have been protected under the geneva convention
 
bliink said:
they were soldiers, they should have been protected under the geneva convention

I agree with you that the terrorists shouldn't be protected under the Geneva convention.

They are after all out of uniform which means you are not protected and can be shot on site.

All sides of the WWII conflict followed this code.
 
Sgt_Shellback said:
I agree with you that the terrorists shouldn't be protected under the Geneva convention.

They are after all out of uniform which means you are not protected and can be shot on site.

All sides of the WWII conflict followed this code.

Yeah, but wars are not fought like that anymore.. times change, and if the US was serious about human rights, they'd update their laws of war... but they dont..

EDIT: anyway, you just said they were held in breach of geneva conventions.
 
bliink said:
Yeah, but wars are not fought like that anymore.. times change, and if the US was serious about human rights, they'd update their laws of war... but they dont..

EDIT: anyway, you just said they were held in breach of geneva conventions.

You're right. Wars are clean, careful affairs where no one gets hurt. We fully respect the rights of those fireing RPG's at us and blow-up hundereds of people doing their morning shopping :rolleyes:
 
Sgt_Shellback said:
You're right. Wars are clean, careful affairs where no one gets hurt. We fully respect the rights of those fireing RPG's at us and blow-up hundereds of people doing their morning shopping :rolleyes:

No, what i'm saying is that you dont fight army's these days, the "enemy" are people in their own streets, they dont have air-forces, proper leadership or navies.. its guerilla warfare now, there are no organised forces.
 
Sgt_Shellback said:
LOL - I could argue they were not combatents but it's just easier to agree with you. Many went to the Soviet Union as well.


and that made it ok?
 
CptStern said:
and that made it ok?

What difference does it make if it is ok or not? It happened over 40 years ago and you are on a half life messageboard in 2005 complaining about it.
 
hypocrite ..shellback is immune to such criticism?
 
CptStern said:
the war on terror ..what a ****ing joke ..you really are guilible ..you will never win ..look to any country that's had to deal with terrorism ..you will just add fuel to the fire. You caused it ..you deal with it ..good luck with that

I bet you felt the same way about the cold war and the USSR.

I bet you were even saddened when communism collapsed on its rotten core. :LOL:

You're weak, and being weak you will look to any means to justify your wish to avoid confronting that which is difficult, or take nearly any measure to avoid sacrifice.

Take solace in the fact that your support of the united nations and countries you hold in hi esteem like France and Germany and their unabashed violations of the UN sanctions in place led to the deaths of many thousands of Iraqis, and helped increase the wealth of Sadam.

Coward.

The war on terror is being fought and won. The military actions in Iraq and Afghanistan have been the MOST SUCCESSFUL MILITARY CAMPAIGNS EVER. 60 million people are no longer living under murderous dictatorial rule.

You hope for failure in Iraq not because you support the terrorists, but rather you dislike the USA. You want the Iraqis to suffer in hopes that we'll look bad. How can you live with yourself?

I don't care if it takes 40 years, I hope we stay the course in Iraq.
 
Scoobnfl said:
I bet you felt the same way about the cold war and the USSR.

typical "if you're not with us you're against us" mentality

Scoobnfl said:
I bet you were even saddened when communism collapsed on its rotten core. :LOL:

ya that's right since I dont support the war in iraq I must be a commie :upstare:

Scoobnfl said:
You're weak, and being weak you will look to any means to justify your wish to avoid confronting that which is difficult, or take nearly any measure to avoid sacrifice.

I'm weak? at least I can decide between what's wrong and right even if it's the unpopular thing to do ..you on the other hand ...march to sound of a different beat ...jackboots slapping at attention

Scoobnfl said:
Take solace in the fact that your support of the united nations and countries you hold in hi esteem like France

is that supposed to offend me? france has a lot to answer to in terms of human rights and other issues and so does germany ...but I dont choose sides just because of a particular flag


Scoobnfl said:
and Germany and their unabashed violations of the UN sanctions in place led to the deaths of many thousands of Iraqis, and helped increase the wealth of Sadam.

but your own violations are beyond reproach, right? the fact that you deliberately targeted Iraq's water treatment plants go unanswered right? the fact that at one point 30,000 children under the age of 5 were dying a month from a lack of sanitary conditions brought upon by inadequate drinking water ..ya I'm in denial alright :upstare:

Scoobnfl said:

bootlicking fascist

Scoobnfl said:
The war on terror is being fought and won.


LOL thanks for that amusing bit of propagandist trash

hey I've got some florida swampland for sale cheap, if you're interested :)


Scoobnfl said:
The military actions in Iraq and Afghanistan have been the MOST SUCCESSFUL MILITARY CAMPAIGNS EVER. 60 million people are no longer living under murderous dictatorial rule.

really? is that why opium production levels are higher than they've ever been in afghanistan? is that why lawlessness is the rule of the day? is that why there's an average of 84 attacks a day on US forces in iraq?

Scoobnfl said:
You hope for failure in Iraq not because you support the terrorists, but rather you dislike the USA.

:upstare: what a silly generalization ..how long have you been here? days? ya, you know what my motivations are

Scoobnfl said:
You want the Iraqis to suffer in hopes that we'll look bad. How can you live with yourself?

idiot I dont care about anyone but the iraqi people

Scoobnfl said:
I don't care if it takes 40 years, I hope we stay the course in Iraq.

just like you did in vietnam? cambodia? south korea?


btw there was a whole whack of stuff you conviently avoided from my post:


"“If You Harbor Terrorists, You Are a Terrorist” - George Bush"
 
How is it weak to disagree based on what you feel is right? Even if it is against the "popular" opinion.

I've always wondered that.
 
LOL thanks for that amusing bit of propagandist trash

You just lost all credibility quoting that. By quoting that you prove to everyone else that you are 100% biased and brainwashed by the left.

Anyone with any common sense doesn't take those words for face value. Let me clarify, since you obviously don't have the brainpower to comprehend.

What bush mean by "The war on terro can't be won" is that there isn't a specific leader to sign a peace treaty. No country is going to pay war reperations when the war ends.

But no, you look past the obvious and slam Bush. Pathetic.
 
Bodacious said:
You just lost all credibility quoting that. By quoting that you prove to everyone else that you are 100% biased and brainwashed by the left.

Anyone with any common sense doesn't take those words for face value. Let me clarify, since you obviously don't have the brainpower to comprehend.

What bush mean by "The war on terro can't be won" is that there isn't a specific leader to sign a peace treaty. No country is going to pay war reperations when the war ends.

But no, you look past the obvious and slam Bush. Pathetic.


wtf are you talking about? show me where the link says that?

"Asked on NBC television whether America could win its "war on terror", the president had replied: "I don't think you can win it. But I think you can create conditions so that the - those who use terror as a tool are less acceptable in parts of the world."


hmmm let's see you're not trying to pin this statement on bush are you?


"The White House spokesman Scott McClellan argued that the president was only being realistic about the nature of the struggle. "He was talking about winning it in the conventional sense ... about how this is a different kind of war and we face an unconventional enemy," he told reporters."


unless he's somehow a ventriloquist and made puppet head bush say those words:

"the president had replied: "I don't think you can win it. "
 
CptStern said:
hey I've got some florida swampland for sale cheap, if you're interested :)

I sold all mine as waterfront property to a moronic Canadian. If I find anothah suckah I'll let ya know.




CptStern said:
really? is that why opium production levels are higher than they've ever been in afghanistan? is that why lawlessness is the rule of the day? is that why there's an average of 84 attacks a day on US forces in iraq?

I don't care about the opium production. Sorry but I just don't. If we are able to get them to grow other things and build their economy they will produce crops other than opium. See unlike you I realize that there is no easy microwave solution to these problems. It will take time, lots of time. But the Afghan people are free from the rule of the taliban and that alone has been worth the fight. Unless of course you think that they were better off under the "lawful" rule of the taliban.



CptStern said:
:upstare: what a silly generalization ..how long have you been here? days? ya, you know what my motivations are
yer a lefty it's obvious.



CptStern said:
idiot I dont care about anyone but the iraqi people

then why do you not want to contribute to and support an effort that will allow them to become free, stable and prosperous?


CptStern said:
just like you did in vietnam? cambodia? south korea?

please tell me about Vietnam.

Cambodia? That was carter and his sorry assed (loonie left)administration that allowed that.

South Korea? yah we're still there, we're still in germany and Japan too, and WWII has been over for how long? ya might be gettin the picture now Capt.
 
Scoob lol,

What little you actually had in here has dissapeared.

"Loonie left" and leftie insults coming from the "extreme right" It can all be flipped around on the other foot.

And the nation bashing is all to familliar.
 
Scoobnfl said:
I don't care about the opium production. Sorry but I just don't. If we are able to get them to grow other things and build their economy they will produce crops other than opium.

ya I can see how well you're re-building as we speak


Scoobnfl said:
See unlike you I realize that there is no easy microwave solution to these problems.


here's a solution: STOP ARMING LUNATICS AND MADMEN!!

"In this three-year period the Soviet Union has been unable to subjugate Afghanistan. The Soviet forces are pitted against an extraordinary people who, in their determination to preserve the character of their ancient land, have organized an effective and still spreading country-wide resistance. The resistance of the Afghan freedom fighters is an example to all the world of the invincibility of the ideals we in this country hold most dear, the ideals of freedom and independence."

Ronald reagan, 1985, praising the Afghan Mujahaddin. These "freedom fighters" included prominent leaders of Al Qaeda, such as Osama Bin Laden, as well as many of the leaders for the Taliban.
source




Scoobnfl said:
It will take time, lots of time. But the Afghan people are free from the rule of the taliban and that alone has been worth the fight. Unless of course you think that they were better off under the "lawful" rule of the taliban.

see above ...Who made WHO????



Scoobnfl said:
yer a lefty it's obvious.

and you're a blind fool





Scoobnfl said:
then why do you not want to contribute to and support an effort that will allow them to become free, stable and prosperous?

free???? who's the current Prime Minister of Iraq? dont know? here's a clue: Iyad Allawi: cia sponsored terrorist and murderer. He's another saddam in the making ..free! LoL what a crock




Scoobnfl said:
please tell me about Vietnam.

what's there to say? you pulled out when the shit hit the fan ..a good example on how public opinion withdrew the troops

Scoobnfl said:
Cambodia? That was carter and his sorry assed (loonie left)administration that allowed that.

who cares? I dont play partisan bs games ..it's all the same to me, regardless of who's at the helm
 
CptStern said:
wtf are you talking about? show me where the link says that?

"Asked on NBC television whether America could win its "war on terror", the president had replied: "I don't think you can win it. But I think you can create conditions so that the - those who use terror as a tool are less acceptable in parts of the world."


hmmm let's see you're not trying to pin this statement on bush are you?


"The White House spokesman Scott McClellan argued that the president was only being realistic about the nature of the struggle. "He was talking about winning it in the conventional sense ... about how this is a different kind of war and we face an unconventional enemy," he told reporters."


unless he's somehow a ventriloquist and made puppet head bush say those words:

"the president had replied: "I don't think you can win it. "


You have to be retarded, Stern.

Here is a portion of Rush limbaugh's interview of president Bush where he clarifies what he meant.

RUSH: Let's talk about the American Legion convention. I watched your speech there this morning, and the Democrats are harping on something you said yesterday, or that was aired yesterday on the Today Show with Matt Lauer about your comment about we can't win it, meaning the war on terror. I think I know what you meant but John Edwards is out there saying (paraphrased), "A-ha! Bush is now flip-flopping, and we, John Kerry and I, we can win this, and Bush is..." What did you mean by this?

THE PRESIDENT: Well, I appreciate you bringing that up. Listen, I should have made my point more clear about what I meant. What I meant was that this is not a conventional war. It is a different kind of war. We're fighting people who have got a dark ideology who use terrorists, terrorism, as a tool. They're trying to shake our conscience. They're trying to shake our will, and so in the short run the strategy has got to be to find them where they lurk. I tell people all the time, "We will stay on the on the offense. We will bring them to justice in foreign lands so we don't have to face them here at home," and that's because you cannot negotiate with these people. And in a conventional war there would be a peace treaty or there would be a moment where somebody would sit on the side and say we quit. That's not the kind of war we're in, and that's what I was saying. The kind of war we're in requires, you know, steadfast resolve, and I will continue to be resolved to bring them to justice, but as well as to spread liberty. And this is one of the interesting points of the debate, Rush, is that, you know, I believe societies can be transformed because of liberty, and I believe that Iraq and Afghanistan will be free nations, and I believe that those free nations right there in the heart of the Middle East will begin to transform that region into a more hopeful place, which in itself will be a detriment to the ability to these terrorists to recruit -- and that's what I was saying. I probably needed to be a little more articulate.
 
I don't really belive you can call it a war on terror, since what the US basicly is doing is pre-emptively attacking 3rd world countries that haven't go the cash or they have a dictator in charge so that they are harboring terrorists. The US invades the country, takes over, let's ONLY american companies benefit from the invasion, builds oil pipelines through the country, and then guerrilla warfare!
 
Bodacious said:
You have to be retarded, Stern.

Here is a portion of Rush limbaugh's interview of president Bush where he clarifies what he meant.


it's called "backtracking" on a verbal guffaw ..not my fault he can barely string two sentences together
 
3rd world countries that haven't go the cash

ROFLMAO!!!

1. Iraq is sitting on the world's 2nd largerst oil cache. That translates to billions of dollars so they had plenty of cash there.

2. Forget about oil for food when Saddam embezzeld 12 billion dollars?

No money? Yah right.
 
CptStern said:
it's called "backtracking" on a verbal guffaw ..not my fault he can barely string two sentences together


Either way, you accusation is false.
 
nope ...he made that statement and tried to retract it when it was too late
 
Bodacious said:
ROFLMAO!!!

1. Iraq is sitting on the world's 2nd largerst oil cache. That translates to billions of dollars so they had plenty of cash there.

2. Forget about oil for food when Saddam embezzeld 12 billion dollars?

No money? Yah right.

Read the entire sentance.

No money, OR A DICTATOR IN CHARGE.

Since Iraq HAD a dictator incharge, which was an asshole that just bullshitted the people, took all their money and stuff.
But saddam still kept the entire country in one peace, no civil war nor different tribal chiefs batteling for control over different areas of the country, like what is now happening in afghanistan.
 
But saddam still kept the entire country in one peace, no civil war nor different tribal chiefs batteling for control over different areas of the country, like what is now happening in afghanistan.

Ever hear of the Kurds?

Would you want to go to war with the government if you even spoke about it Saddam's henchmen would rape your wife and daughter then throw you in a giant blender?

Would you want to go to war with the government if Saddam's henchman came to your town and put 3000 of it's citizens into mass graves?

You probably would want to fight the government, but as soon as you opened your mouth you would die.

Not very pleasant isn't it?
 
CptStern said:
nope ...he made that statement and tried to retract it when it was too late

LOL, ok dude. You are in denial. Keep smoking crack in your fantasy land.
 
Bodacious said:
Ever hear of the Kurds?

Would you want to go to war with the government if you even spoke about it Saddam's henchmen would rape your wife and daughter then throw you in a giant blender?

Would you want to go to war with the government if Saddam's henchman came to your town and put 3000 of it's citizens into mass graves?

You probably would want to fight the government, but as soon as you opened your mouth you would die.

Not very pleasant isn't it?

Hah, arrogant fool, you're not supposed to pick apart my post, you are supposed to read it as a whole. Damn boy, didn't they teach you sentances in school?

I never said he was a good guy, but there are alot of people as bad as him in that country, they just don't have as much power as he did.
 
^Ben said:
Scoob lol,

What little you actually had in here has dissapeared.

"Loonie left" and leftie insults coming from the "extreme right" It can all be flipped around on the other foot.

And the nation bashing is all to familliar.

alot of that is done for fun. I lean to the left on lots of issues, yet enjoy ruffling the feathers of lefties by calling them lefties.
 
Scoobnfl said:
alot of that is done for fun. I lean to the left on lots of issues, yet enjoy ruffling the feathers of lefties by calling them lefties.

I don't even know the definition of lefties and righties... :/
 
MaxiKana said:
Hah, arrogant fool, you're not supposed to pick apart my post, you are supposed to read it as a whole. Damn boy, didn't they teach you sentances in school?

I never said he was a good guy, but there are alot of people as bad as him in that country, they just don't have as much power as he did.


I don't get it, then. If I am supposed to read the post as a whole, but part of that "whole" is a baseless accusation and mirepresentation of the fact, then the rest of the message is invalidated because it is tanted by your lie.

So now it is not, "...Saddam still kept the entire country in one peace, no civil war nor different tribal chiefs batteling for control over different areas of the country..." but now it is, "there are a lot of bad people without power."

For one, I don't see how those comments correspond.

Second, I proved you wrong on your first comment about "no cival wars or regional unrest" by reminding you about the Kurds.
 
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