Tf2

[ShinRa]

I'm sorry but what is the big deal about TF2? Why is everyone so highly anticipating this game? I played the original TF, and it wasn't amazing, it was really fun but nothing breath taking. What is everyones fasination with TF2?

 

[CrazyHarij]

I'm not really sure. I never was a great fan of TFC but I'll check TF2 out once it's released. http://www.halflife2.net/forums/showthread.php?t=23358 btw

 

[goldenboi]

TFC sux IMO. Mindless shooting (which is fun to some people). I prefer CS 100:1 to TFC. No strategy whatsoever. It's like a dumbed-down version of the first UT, what with all the repsawning and whatnot.

 

[Asus]

I'm sorry but what is the big deal about TF2? Why is everyone so highly anticipating this game? I played the original TF, and it wasn't amazing, it was really fun but nothing breath taking. What is everyones fasination with TF2?

You are missing why people are excited about TF2 because you weren't a big fan of the first one on the HL engine.
It was a very popular game and has a following even today.

 

[Johan_Tayn]

never really found it fun, myself. more fun to buy stuff in a store than select a class, IMO.

 

[SMT]

Funny, goldenboi, I feel exactly the opposite. But hey, whatever revs your motor.

 

[FaM]

The thing about TF2 is its supposed to be a modern day wargame like Americas Army with a dosage of Bf1942. Everyone thought it looked amazing compared to the games of those days (Halflife etc.)You could always do a search and find the old screenshots and movies of TF2 using the Halflife engine.Although Valve has already said they switched TF2 to source awhile ago. I myself believe TF2 will be better than HL2 but thats just my opinion.Also remember that TF2 will be completely different than TFC.No ones going to take a rocket to the gut and live to fight.

 

[Letters]

Guinny, you said it yourself... it's a really fun game...

 

[dream431ca]

does TF2 contain DM??

If it does...SWEET!! :sniper:

 

[goldenboi]

No offense, but are you are girl that looks like Britney Spears?

 

[tokin]

The thing about TF2 is its supposed to be a modern day wargame like Americas Army with a dosage of Bf1942. Everyone thought it looked amazing compared to the games of those days (Halflife etc.)You could always do a search and find the old screenshots and movies of TF2 using the Halflife engine.Although Valve has already said they switched TF2 to source awhile ago. I myself believe TF2 will be better than HL2 but thats just my opinion.

You believe TF2 will be a better game than HL2? You cant really judge that, HL2 has a HUGE storyline, TF2 is going to be online and just a multiplayer game. You could compare the multiplayer componet in a way by saying TF2 will whoop HL2's DM mode (i mean come on they are most likely going to have one, valve isn't stupid). However, for the people thinking it will ship with HL2 are just crazy. At the most we cant expect is to hear some news around when HL2 ships or after. Then hopefully a release in the winter or beginning of next year. Knowing valve it just isn't likely though, guess we will have to see if they make this summer release.

 

[Bicka]

Yeah he didnt say HL2 singleplayer...

And when we saw pictures of Tf2 on the HL1 engine, it was vastly different from TF1 and classic.
I actually believe it'll bring in the hardcore 'realism' crowd.

Do a search for Tf2 or team fortress 2 on google and see what you find...

 

[FaM]

You believe TF2 will be a better game than HL2? You cant really judge that, HL2 has a HUGE storyline, TF2 is going to be online and just a multiplayer game. You could compare the multiplayer componet in a way by saying TF2 will whoop HL2's DM mode (i mean come on they are most likely going to have one, valve isn't stupid). However, for the people thinking it will ship with HL2 are just crazy. At the most we cant expect is to hear some news around when HL2 ships or after. Then hopefully a release in the winter or beginning of next year. Knowing valve it just isn't likely though, guess we will have to see if they make this summer release.

Well you are right in a way but what I'm saying is that the TF2 gameplay will be better than the HL2 gameplay. You cant really compare the storyline since TF2 doesnt have one.(well not that we know of anyway)Of course HL2 will be the next "Best game of all time" and I will be playing it for a couple of years until HL3 but I am especially looking forward to TF2.

EDIT:Heres the official site http://games.sierra.com/games/teamfortress/

 

[Mr-Fusion]

TFC was one of the first games to implement a workable class system.

As the saying goes, at the time it was great. But the gameplay was unfortunately filled with pure spam, people rocket jumping, emptying 1000 rounds of ammo from a minigun into people and not killing them. I'm not a realism freak but that kind of silliness just turns me off from games.

Then CS came along introducing a more believable damage system and a class system which totally owned Team Fortresses.

 

[tokin]

Check out my post about TF2 i wrote up from a lot of articles, interviews, and previews.

http://www.halflife2.net/forums/showthread.php?t=22139

 

[FaM]

Check out my post about TF2 i wrote up from a lot of articles, interviews, and previews.

http://www.halflife2.net/forums/showthread.php?t=22139

Yeah I read that, alot of good info for the people who have never heard about TF2 or think its gonna be another TFC.

 

[goldenboi]

That game will pwn! LOL, what a change of opinions I have.

 

[SilentDark]

TFC sux IMO. Mindless shooting (which is fun to some people). I prefer CS 100:1 to TFC. No strategy whatsoever. It's like a dumbed-down version of the first UT, what with all the repsawning and whatnot.

That is the dumbest thing I've heard all day.

Be happy the mods would like this to be a flame-free forum.

 

[kaf11]

im the same way. im not too hyped for tf2, but thats just b/c i never got into the first one. too much fast crazy action for my tastes. my current online game is day of defeat. its much more my style. i will however give tf2 a shot and see if its good.

 

[iamaelephant]

But the gameplay was unfortunately filled with pure spam, people rocket jumping, emptying 1000 rounds of ammo from a minigun into people and not killing them.

That is exactly what I loved about TFC. It was crazy, spam-filled fun, wasnt destroyed by that annoying thing every f**king game dev fills their games with (realism) these day. It was just pure fun. Rocket/conc jumping, the most balanced sniper rifles ever (completely unrealistic but it worked so well!), fun game modes, symmetrical maps, spies, pyros, everything about the game just screams fun.

I for one hope like hell that TF2 is more like TFC than BF. I dont mind a realistic looking game, but I really, REALLY loved the gameplay of TFC, but unfrotunately it's the sort of game that no one makes anymore. Everyone wants realism now day.
Realism is boring

 

[63]

No offense, but are you are girl that looks like Britney Spears?

He just thinks that he has a chance...

 

[Mr-Fusion]

That is exactly Realism is boring

Too much is boring, too little is boring. I like a nice balance.

 

[iamaelephant]

I have recently come to dispise realism thanks to all the sub-par games that have come out recently. (By recently I mean pretty much anything since TFC).

 

[Orange]

The Classes in tfc were more varied and distinct than any class fps game ive seen so far. The gameplay was fun. Teamplay was critical. i liked it

 

[Wesisapie]

Agh, TFC was blasphemous to QWTF. QWTF was sooo much better. One of the first games to implement a headshot model. That in itself was an achievement. Then add in the grenades, sentry guns, and different classes, and you'll see why it was so amazing at the time.

And all of this from a mod!

 

[Chris D]

I'm sorry but what is the big deal about TF2? Why is everyone so highly anticipating this game? I played the original TF, and it wasn't amazing, it was really fun but nothing breath taking. What is everyones fasination with TF2?

That's personal opinion. No matter what you think of the game, it won't change the fact that quite a lot of people still like it.

 

[righte0us]

TFC sux IMO. Mindless shooting (which is fun to some people). I prefer CS 100:1 to TFC. No strategy whatsoever. It's like a dumbed-down version of the first UT, what with all the repsawning and whatnot.

good god how can anyone be so freakin retarded..

 

[Edcrab]

Guys, its preference, opinion- you know? That wierd little thing called taste? I don't agree but if he likes CS over TFC that's his view.

Personally, I must be some sort of freaky mashochist, because I keep playing CS, even though I really dislike its pseudo-realistic daftness. TFC is great fun; no tactics though? I'd argue that structures and classes are far more tactical than sides that are practically clinical clones of each other.

As for TF2, reports suggest that it might have taken a step away from modern-day tactical combat and back towards futuristic action, but God knows.

 

[Lobster]

Not everyone likes CS not everyone likes DOD not everyone likes DM not everyone likes TFC, the majority of half-life players like at least one of them, so there making source ports of the originals, and probally making nice flashy remake sequals eventully for each of them.

Also TF2 wont be like TFC (which was simply a port of the original Quake TF) I think they wanna create a new type of teamgame, i heard rumblings around the time of the source leak of a few things that made it sound quite different to TFC, closer to Natural Selection but completely different and no aliens... if that makes any kind of sense.

Anyway alot of people like TFC cause it offers a large ammount of classes with very different skills and purposes, and there is always a good division of defence and attacking portions of a team, it plays very fast so wont appeal to players of the more squad tactical games such as CS etc.

 

[bigun]

CS is tactical? lol

lets see: pretty much identical teams and weapons.
5 man teams, rounds over on 3 minutes - rushing and deathmatch lol lolz0r?!1
no one ever bothers with the objectives, its just a free for all.
silly damage model - shoot someone in the head? they die. shoot someone in the heart? they dont die.
slow and borrrring.

TFC:
fast - for skilled players
8 different classes. not different in ak vs m4 different, but TOTALLY different.

egs: a spy who can act as a member of enemy team
an engineer who can build sentry guns and teleporters
medics and scouts who can concussion jump and heal team mates (teamplay anyone?)
demo men who can blow up obstacles or lay pipe bomb traps

the list goes on and on. CS is for people who prefer simplistic deathmatch style. tfc is for people who like to learn special skills, fast paced game and actual squad based tactics based around the notions of attack and defence - heard of those 2 CS noobs?

 

[tommycat]

Personally I liked DOD over TFC. DOD used a lot of the TFC ideas without the ultrasilly rocketjump stuff. I liked CS over TFC though(when it first came out, I loved it). The problem I had with TFC was that too many people were abusing the game system(read: Cheating it), and that was pretty much expected. If you didn't figure out at least one way to cheat, you were a target. An easy one at that(I know I picked off a few). It just gets too easy.

If I didn't want reality, I could go with Unreal(apt name don't you think?).

 

[Bicka]

the only thing I ever used to do on TFC was be the spy and try get in to the enemy base...

Didn't care much about which team won, I just enjoyed standing around laughing at the guys pondering wether I was an enemy or not lol!

 

[aku ankka]

AARRGH stop saying tfc, that was just remake... now TF, THAT`S a game.

 

[umop]

I never had any fun playing TFC... I don't know why, it just didn't feel right to me.

 

[Stormy]

TFC was classy, was so much fun with all the bunny hoping and concustion jumping. I carnt count the amout of times i got such a big adrenalin rush i could feel my heart pumping in my chest.
TF2 is alot different from TFC, i think TFC was alot about speed, CTF mainly. TF2 looks (from the old vids and screens) alot slower. And if i remeber rightly you have a commander that gets an over view that tells people where to go and stuff like that, much like NS, infact NS probly copyed that idear

 

[Ownzed]

I prefer The Specialists mod :thumbs:http://www.specialistsmod.net/

 

[VoiD]

For me the obsession over TF2 occured years ago when it was first announced and media was released on the net, lots of crazy rumors flying around and it seemed like valves next big game. Then it just vanished, no more website updates no more news on it, nothing. A real dissapointment for those following it, now its finnaly been mentioned again all that excitement has come back and i cant wait for it.

 

[bigun]

when tf2 was first announced i was just starting my a levels.

now im graduating from university and it still hasnt come out hehehe

but yeah, half the fun from tfc came from learning to do special movement tricks like rocket jumping, conc jumping and bunnyhopping. people who say these are exploits just didnt have the skill to ever be able to do them, otherwise they too would see how much fun it was to go flying through the air on well after a conc jump, or bunnyhop around a concussed hw guy as a scout ... ahh memories. some people just dont have the intelligence to play these kind of games that arent as straightforward as they first seem.

with cs, its pretty simple, you see an enemy all you can do is shoot him. in tfc there is a much greater variety of gameplay when it comes to combat which is what makes it so fun.

 

[Baal]

I think TFC was before most of our times...Well not all, but anyone like 15 or younger in my opinion...because TFC was popular a few years before I started getting into Half-Life (Counter-Strike, to me more precise), actually, a couple years before I had a computer...

I don't like TFC, but I'm sure that it was a good game in it's day, and I will probably like TF2. I just can't see myself hating anything on the Source Engine.

 

[Wsh]

This is a weird thing to discuss tbh. But there are some points that I'd like to point out.

The first online fps I played was Quake DM. It ruled. Ok, then came QTF. At the time it was super amazing and a lot of people have great memories. The point in the game was to make ALL classes have a different way to play; if someone says TF has no tactics he is so seriously wrong...(in a way :F)
TFC has actually very little of the original gameplay, but the main things stayed.
Yes the public servers suck because people spam and stuff, and spam isn't controlled by a CS-style round reset. But in a serious and "pro" organized match, it's one of the most tactical fps multiplayers created. Players specialize in a specifc style, and you can't be good at all classes, so in maps you are there where you are the most useful with the most appropriate class to you.
I know it's hard to believe it works like that if all you have ever played is a CS/BF/randomwargame pointtohead-shootonsight, but it's very fun when/if you get the hang of it and IF you have a good company playing with you.
I trust in Valve's skill in making a game that uses the class difference system as well as TF did.