Thanks, American media.

On February 28, 2008, the Ministry of Defence stated that Prince Harry had secretly been deployed to fight the Taliban in Afghanistan, in Helmand Province as a Forward Air Controller.
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there's no way they would put him in harms way, that's why he wasnt deployed to iraq in 2007 ..was he involved in any dangerous situations, I dont know, I'm sure there was much more leniency in terms of security than back home ..however it would be foolish to purposefully risk an heir to the throne
 
Mr Stabby said:
Yet the reports from journalists that visited him there and interviews of soldiers there contradict that view.
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Can I get some sources? Or are we just going to repeat what we think we heard on the local newscast?
 
Obviously it was a calculated risk.

He didn't go to Iraq because it was leaked, if they knew he was there he would be a prime target, hence his withdrawal when the information was leaked this time.

Forward air controller is a frontline job.
 
Then I agree and subtract my doubts. I think it's rather awesome that they put him there without anyone knowing who he really was, or anyone recognizing him.
 
Mr Stabby said:
Obviously it was a calculated risk.

He didn't go to Iraq because it was leaked, if they knew he was there he would be a prime target, hence his withdrawal when the information was leaked this time.

Forward air controller is a frontline job.
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agreed ..however there's a world of difference between firing your gun and raining death from above in a bunker miles from battle ..you dont need air traffic control to be in the thick of things ..that would invite friendly fire, most likely of their own doing ..think about it
 
He was on the front lines however. British army can't afford spy satellites they need people to see where the enemy is.
 
Forward air controllers are, usually, right behind infantry in terms of closeness to battle. They carry weapons, they carry radios, they carry lasers; they pinpoint enemy positions and call in airstrikes for coalition bombing runs.
 
what? did they furnish him with a golf cart to go from control tower to front line so that he can call out coordinates? ..they have spotters for that ..and they're not exactly within spitting distance of their intended targets (for obvious reasons)

I'm not questioning his motivation or the governments etc ..but much like movie stars who dont do their own stunts (for obvious reasons: they could be hurt/killed) you dont put the third in line to the throne of canada (he's our might-be-king too you know) in harms way
 
He was based 500m from enemy lines and carried out patrols, that's the front lines. His job was to call in air support for his squad, which he was on patrol with.
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forward_air_controller

Seriously Stern, it's not like aiming a bomb and hitting exactly what you want is easy work. You need forward positions; you need eyes for the bombers. He was part of a group of soldiers whose role were following infantry forces and calling in bombing runs when the infantry needed it.
 
Ok Prince Harry, back to being a spoilt little ****** brat.

HAHA SUCK SHIT BRITISH MONARCHY AND YOUR ASPIRATIONS FOR A GLORIOUS WARRIOR PRINCE!!! HE IS BUT A PONCE!

AUSTRALIA - 1
BRITAIN - 0
 
Who gives a shit, honestly.

Like an enemy sniper is going to be able to pick him off now or something?
Like it changes anything? It doesn't.
 
Solaris said:
Oh boo hoo lama. The whole thing was obviously a PR stunt.
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Oh bugger off Solaris. Come back when you can back anything up with sound arguments. :dozey:

Solaris said:
I for one wouldn't shed a tear if our 'hero' prince was KIA'd.
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Of course you don't. Then again, you are Solaris.

Solaris said:
If he wanted to be a soldier, he should be on the front line, make the taliban aware of where he is too draw them out into a great battle. His troops would be inspired by a fierce 'st crispins' day speech. He would lead the charge like Henry V at Agincourt.

Alas, he is just a little girl.
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Seriously, wtf?
You arn't fighting. Please, go take a tour of duty before making blatantly stupid statements. How much attention would his soldiers get from hostiles if the enemy KNEW he was on the front lines? Too much, that's how much.
 
apart from the massive tourism industry they generate :p
 
_Z_Ryuken said:
Who gives a shit, honestly.

Like an enemy sniper is going to be able to pick him off now or something?
Like it changes anything? It doesn't.
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Prince Harry poses a risk to the soldiers around him because he is a more valuable target to the enemy; now that the information has been leaked globally, it gives the enemy a vague clue as to where to find him. Can we, please, ****ing agree that this is a bad thing?

Jesus christ, everyone HAS to argue about everything.
 
Sure it's a bad thing, but is the information actually useful to anyone? I say no.
 
_Z_Ryuken said:
Sure it's a bad thing, but is the information actually useful to anyone? I say no.
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You're wrong. Never underestimate the enemy. We're not fighting snakes and birds in Iraq and Afghanistan- the enemy possesses the capabilities and technology to intercept and read news broadcasts, among other things.

Besides, it's basic military protocol. I bet it took a lot of hassle to get him there in the first place.
 
Also, the royals have an average yearly cost of ?0.60 per person.

Per year.
 
Aren't you underestimating their tactics? I say don't overestimate the enemy. I don't think they are stupid enough to make a sacrificial move based on a total gamble. The prize is not worth it. It's far easier to use a single assassin in an urban area.
 
Look, it's not Prince Harry they're concerned about; it's the safety of the soldiers around him. It's military procedure- it's the same reason you don't salute on the battlefield or publicly announce anything that has to do with combat operations. Things like this have been tradition since humanity learned how to wage war.
 
No it's not. You're saying it's no big deal if the enemy knows where he is.
 
Why aren't you fighting then? I mean, your clearly not a "little girl" yet I fail to see you in afgahnistan kicking ass?
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Because Solaris is a little bitch, not a little girl. Can't decide which is worse.
 
Llama said:
Oh bugger off Solaris. Come back when you can back anything up with sound arguments. :dozey:


Of course you don't. Then again, you are Solaris.
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I'm surprised you have an ounce of respect for the royals. Why?


You arn't fighting. Please, go take a tour of duty before making blatantly stupid statements. How much attention would his soldiers get from hostiles if the enemy KNEW he was on the front lines? Too much, that's how much.
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Good, are we there too win or too pussy about hiding?

We should be chasing the Taliban, we should try and draw as many out as possible so we can kill more of them, them knowing harrys location would have helped that.
 
Llama said:
Also, the royals have an average yearly cost of ?0.60 per person.

Per year.
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Source please.

Also, what about all the land they own and charge people who live on it.
 
Pesmerga said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forward_air_controller

Seriously Stern, it's not like aiming a bomb and hitting exactly what you want is easy work. You need forward positions; you need eyes for the bombers. He was part of a group of soldiers whose role were following infantry forces and calling in bombing runs when the infantry needed it.
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Quite.

One of the key responsibilities of the SAS in wartime is designating targets for laser-guided missiles. To do so they have to infiltrate far behind enemy lines (in the case of an air war ala the Gulf War) to be able to get a visual lock on the target, which must be maintained all the way until impact.
But hey, the SAS are just little girls, right?
 
Solaris said:
Good, are we there too win or too pussy about hiding?

We should be chasing the Taliban, we should try and draw as many out as possible so we can kill more of them, them knowing harrys location would have helped that.
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Obviously you know more about fighting the taliban than NATO. If the taliban knew where Harry was it would have put more pressure on that location, and the taliban would be able to dictate when and where the fighting took place, which is not a good idea.
 
Solaris said:
Good, are we there too win or too pussy about hiding?

We should be chasing the Taliban, we should try and draw as many out as possible so we can kill more of them, them knowing harrys location would have helped that.
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I like how you simultaenously claim good tactics are cowardice, and then ask us whether we are there to win.

See also: Harry is a "little girl" because he's not literally leading a cavalry charge.

As such a staunch republican, I imagine you'd be the first to argue that the royals should not be priveleged over any other normal person, nor expected to be - and yet, when one of them acts as exactly that (an ordinary soldier), you go off on one?
 
Solaris said:
I'm surprised you have an ounce of respect for the royals. Why?
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Me having respect for them has nothing to do with it. Why would I want peoples lives put in danger by something which wouldn't be a problem if it hadn't been leaked?


Solaris said:
Good, are we there too win or too pussy about hiding?

We should be chasing the Taliban, we should try and draw as many out as possible so we can kill more of them, them knowing harrys location would have helped that.
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:rolleyes: I'm sure you understand the situation better than the people with years of experience. But please do feel free telling me how you fight an enemy that for all intents and purposes can blend perfectly with the civilian poppulation.

Solaris said:
Source please.

Also, what about all the land they own and charge people who live on it.
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http://www.royal.gov.uk/output/Page4680.asp
 
Harry getting killed by paramilitaries would be like Mountbatten x1000!! The ra would get so jealous they'd have to go to Afghanistan and start bombing the rebels for making them look bad.
 
Solaris said:
We should be chasing the Taliban, we should try and draw as many out as possible so we can kill more of them, them knowing harrys location would have helped that.
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Don't make the mistake of misunderestimating the taliban.
 
Atomic_Piggy said:
Don't make the mistake of misunderestimating the taliban.
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The Taliban are shit, trust me, I've seen that ross kemp program, even prince harry - a little girl, killed 30 of them according to the sun. I say we mobilise the girls brigades (the church youth groups) and they'll be ****ed.
 
It was only becuase you wupped me earlier on in this thread.

Death to the establishment is all I have left to say.
 
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