The Anti-Cheat Decline

What a crap article.

And from a cheat maker aswell :| You out of all people should know how hard it is for an anti cheat company to keep up. And I love the "zomg it would only take a couple of days to wipe out cheating! Damn those lazy devs!" As you seem to be the expert on all things anti cheat why don't you take those couple of days you seem to think it will take to wipe out cheating and do it yourself? I'll sure be gratefull for it.

I'll give you 1 week to cure all the cheat problems, hop to it. Don't go looking at porn now.
 
VAC2 is on every secure Half-Life based game server, and theres only a small percentage of insecure servers in comparison, if I wrote a Anti-Cheat that wouldent cure anything because that would be a percentage past the decimal point that would actually know about my anti-cheat and use it, there would still be vast ammounts of servers with cheating problems.

I would need access to update VAC2.

Interesting that you flame me just because I develop cheats, dismissing the fact I am doing people like you, legit players, a favour by pointing out the misguided motivation in todays Anti-Cheat software.

"You out of all people should know how hard it is for an anti cheat company to keep up." I do know how hard it is and it's not that hard at all, I suggest you read the Article again because I cover this subject in there already.

It seems you havent read the Article that carefully, otherwise you would have realised that Game Developers are not trying to keep up with Anti-Cheat development at all.
 
LiX_ said:
VAC2 is on every secure Half-Life based game server, and theres only a small percentage of insecure servers in comparison, if I wrote a Anti-Cheat that wouldent cure anything because that would be a percentage past the decimal point that would actually know about my anti-cheat and use it, there would still be vast ammounts of servers with cheating problems.

I would need access to update VAC2.

Interesting that you flame me just because I develop cheats, dismissing the fact I am doing people like you, legit players, a favour by pointing out the misguided motivation in todays Anti-Cheat software.

"You out of all people should know how hard it is for an anti cheat company to keep up." I do know how hard it is and it's not that hard at all, I suggest you read the Article again because I cover this subject in there already.

It seems you havent read the Article that carefully, otherwise you would have realised that Game Developers are not trying to keep up with Anti-Cheat development at all.
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You make cheats? I don't care what advice you give to people and such, you're still a dick.
 
LiX_ said:
VAC2 is on every secure Half-Life based game server, and theres only a small percentage of insecure servers in comparison, if I wrote a Anti-Cheat that wouldent cure anything because that would be a percentage past the decimal point that would actually know about my anti-cheat and use it, there would still be vast ammounts of servers with cheating problems.

I would need access to update VAC2.

Interesting that you flame me just because I develop cheats, dismissing the fact I am doing people like you, legit players, a favour by pointing out the misguided motivation in todays Anti-Cheat software.

"You out of all people should know how hard it is for an anti cheat company to keep up." I do know how hard it is and it's not that hard at all, I suggest you read the Article again because I cover this subject in there already.

It seems you havent read the Article that carefully, otherwise you would have realised that Game Developers are not trying to keep up with Anti-Cheat development at all.
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So your backing out of my challenge?

You write the perfect anti cheat in 2 days like you claim can be done, and I'll setup an independant server and we will try every cheat out there to see if it can detect it.

Go for it.
 
LiX, how often do you play Valve games online, like Counter-Strike Source? I've been playing that game since the beta, atleast 20 hours a week on average, and I've only encountered cheaters maybe twice. In all that time. Cheating is SERIOUSLY not a big problem with steam games. VAC does an excellent job, despite how shitty you think it is. So basically what I'm saying is, you are making a big deal out of absolutely nothing.

Even if you DO find a cheater. Oh look how hard this is: Disconnect. Find new server.

WOW PROBLEM SOLVED. Seriously, and this goes for pretty much any other game. Cheating really isn't that much of a problem. And these anti cheat systems, DESPITE HOW GOOD YOU THINK THEY ARE, are still effective either way, because of the "Scare tactics" you mention. And frankly, I'd rather see developers make the game better instead of focusing on losers like you.

And you can go **** yourself for making cheats in the first place. It's like you are complaining at yourself.
 
You can't act rationally on an internet forum because I develop cheats and therefor decide to ignore the whole truth of the Article?

It's not hard to put across your views or opinions of the Article without flaming, I would have expected a grain of maturity in some of the reviews on this forum but I guess not.

An example would start like:
"Okay well, I disagree with some of the points you made because..."

And vegeta897 I have no desire to fight with you about "who's been playing the longest", if I had made a comment about how long I had been playing your reply would have contained "You obviously have no life." so it's just an immature means to and end. I think it's obvious that neither of us have been around the Half-Life 2 scene for a short period of time.

How mature. I am done with this thread.
 
You make cheats, therefore you give up any claims on maturity.
 
You mean, I 'developed' cheats, a word I neglected to use earlier, and maturity has what to do with the desire to research scanning of visual output and image recognition? Making my Aimbot was the most enjoyable method of me to research and develop advanced methods of scanning visual output and image recognition. I am mature enough to admit that this was the wrong way to express my interest of these.

These days I have more interest in positive development, expecially on the Half-Life 2 Engine. Mod development and such, infact you will be seeing an interesting mod from me soon, not that I would want the likes of HalfLife2 forums to have anything to do with that anymore.

Savage' how your quick to judge.
 
I maek cheats

Cheats r bad LOL

Read mey smartybook, conveniently placed in this .zip file!
 
I think you're ignoring vegeta's (imo valid) point about the real-world effectiveness of VAC by simply responding to some point about 'how long you've played'.
That is what makes you look immature in my book.
 
I am imature of dismissing the fact he claims he see's little cheaters, maybe because he dosent know how to spot one? About an hour ago I went on 14 of the most popular different CSS servers and 9 of them had cheats on them yet no one seemed to notice the huge score difference and the obvious give aways when spectating.

There's also the factor of different CSS server listings for different regions due to ping sorting, the servers from your region (the servers with the lowest ping) are the servers that will be diplayed on your serverlist first and usually at the top if you sorted them that way, and it's unlikly your going to play on a china server with 500+ ping.

Since his post was motivated to flame a cheater, it would be inappropriate for me to even reply to any points he made being they where made with the wrong attitude and motivation.
 
Have you started on the perfect anti cheat system yet? You said it would only take 2 days.
 
LiX_ said:
I am imature of dismissing the fact he claims he see's little cheaters, maybe because he dosent know how to spot one?
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Wow, I thought you were smarter... Who gives a shit if he's cheating if you don't even notice it!? I'm glad as hell I don't have the burden of being able to spot cheaters and be anal about it like you are. I'd only care about cheaters that made the game unfun. In other words, if someone told me they were cheating, yet I was still having a great time playing with the guy, I wouldn't give a care. This is what you need to achieve. But it looks like it's too late for you.

Since his post was motivated to flame a cheater, it would be inappropriate for me to even reply to any points he made being they where made with the wrong attitude and motivation.
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That makes a whole ton of sense right there.
 
I maed the perfect anti-cheat system yesterdays, but then I realized I had no game to put it in.
I ROCK!

I also have the power to detect '''SECRET CHEATERS''' that no-one else can see. :O

Is there anything I can't do, LOL?
 
Is everyone out to get Lix because he wrote a cheat or because he thinks the cheat system can be 'patched' in a couple of days? I don't play any Source games online, but it sounds like the two parties here have different views about how much cheating takes place.
 
My main crit is with the "it would only take a couple of days to fix" and as him as a cheat maker should knowhow easy it is to update his cheat once VAC detects it.

It's a continual arms race with the anti cheat guys always playing catchup.

But go ahead, make that perfect anti cheat system in 2 days that can detect anything in the past and in the present. Heck I bet Valve would buy that straight off you.
 
To be quite honest it sounds to me like you're saying people who are better than you are also cheating. Just because they don't move the mouse as slowly as you do or automatically go for the head, or chest, it is "an obvious sign they are cheating".

Fine, there may be cheaters with bad ****ing scores but honestly who the hell cares about them?

As said previously, though, if you would go ahead and write your perfect anti-cheat program, even if it takes you a whole week, I'd be glad to test it out with everyone else in this thread. I just have a feeling that your idea of the perfect anti cheat is to disqualify anyone who moves their mouse too fast or too accurately, which doesn't only kick out cheaters but legit players aswell. Players quite honestly a lot better than you.

As a final note I seriously doubt you would have written an aimbot if you weren't such a poor player in the first place. "I'll show them, I'll write meiy owneh aimbotz and kilz them!"
 
I don't believe i've seen a cheater in CS:Source once. But OMGVALVEPLZFIX all the same.
 
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