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This actually is a repost from march 2004, but this is still very interesting.

The Elegant Universe is a documentary on string theory by Brian Greene. String theory is the first theory that can explain all of nature, while fitting the current state of science. It is a interesting 3 hour watch on the NOVA website.

Here it is in lowres.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/elegant/program.html

This one is the highres.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/elegant/program_d.html


The animation explaining up to the tenth dimension reminded me of this (I've seen it years ago) and that animation might help visualizing the things that are discussed. I recommend wathing it first.
http://www.tenthdimension.com/flash2.php
 
String theory is beyond any normal person's understanding because its all based on advanced mathematics and mechanics. Its interesting to 'know about', but still pointless to try and fully understand, imo.
 
"Pointless to try and fully understand"
Poppycock.

Downloading.
 
Just watched the flash. Reminds me of John Titor. I'm watching it again with Push It to the Limit by Dio playing for added effect.
 
I love being reminded just how unimaginably perfect everything is.
 
Heh, I watched the flash thing, who got all the way through without having to pause it and replay something?

Not me...D:
 
I remember watching this a while ago. 'Twas a good watch.
 
It's cool. There's only one thing that can fully prove it to be correct, which is finding a way to make it engineerable. It predicts interactions between electromagnetisim and gravity so using EM in a certain way could lead to a direct mechanisim to manipulate the gravitational field.
 
watching that flash I got to the fifth demension before I got confused (in one viewing), how far did you guys get?
 
I got a little confused around there but kept going, then I just had to pause it and go back at the 8th :p
 
No part of it was confusing for me. It seemed to be really dumbed down, actually.
 
lePobz said:
I love being reminded just how unimaginably perfect everything is.
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So true. I've always wanted to be come an astronanmer! They are coo. because theycan fly through the air and kiss the staerts with the love of kisses and love....with jets!
 
I have watched it in Hong Kong. :p

CyberPitz said:
So true. I've always wanted to be come an astronanmer! They are coo. because theycan fly through the air and kiss the staerts with the love of kisses and love....with jets!
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Unfortunately, it has very little to do with flying towards space.
 
Hmm...I actually always thought about all the stuff in the 10 dimensions things but I didn't have the exact names for the subjects of my thoughts.
 
_Z_Ryuken said:
No part of it was confusing for me. It seemed to be really dumbed down, actually.
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Well, it was, but I think I have a problem paying attention to anything remotely complicated...so I guess it's not really being confused, but instead, not listening and then realizing I missed a bunch of what the guy said :p
 
my dad saw a preview for this, and then said, "that's bullshit. Scientists don't know anything, they just pull this stuff out of their asses! They need a good old dose of the bible."

Needless to say, that pissed me off quite a bit, and it eventually escelated to us screaming at each other and me driving away to cool off.
 
Naudian said:
Well, it was, but I think I have a problem paying attention to anything remotely complicated...so I guess it's not really being confused, but instead, not listening and then realizing I missed a bunch of what the guy said :p
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Makes sense. I was absolutely glued to the screen.
 
theotherguy said:
my dad saw a preview for this, and then said, "that's bullshit. Scientists don't know anything, they just pull this stuff out of their asses! They need a good old dose of the bible."

Needless to say, that pissed me off quite a bit, and it eventually escelated to us screaming at each other and me driving away to cool off.
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The most hilarious are the bishops call the scientists to stop researching. OMG, if scientists don't research science, how come there is such a great cathedral? How come the "Servant of God" is riding a car in travel?
 
Saw this last year, ya'll should get the book as well.

Awesome stuff.
 
Hey but in that flash video doesn't he say the 4th dimension is time. IIRC time is not the 4th dimension in physics.
 
bbson john said:
The most hilarious are the bishops call the scientists to stop researching. OMG, if scientists don't research science, how come there is such a great cathedral? How come the "Servant of God" is riding a car in travel?
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"When your cellphone is out of power, you don't pray to God, you put it in the recharger."

theotherguy: ask your dad if the schematics to build the tv he just watched were in the Bible, or if the scientists just "pulled it out of their ass".
 
to bored to watch the flash someone can explain?
 
PvtRyan said:
"When your cellphone is out of power, you don't pray to God, you put it in the recharger."

theotherguy: ask your dad if the schematics to build the tv he just watched were in the Bible, or if the scientists just "pulled it out of their ass".
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I think I said something along those lines. For some reason he thinks that all science has gone downhill since 1970. He thinks that home computers are the most worthless invention of all time, and especially the internet, which he considers "evil"

I dont think I handled it very civilly though. It eventually just ended with him laughing at me because he thinks I'm naive and me screaming "you're an ignorant hick!"

oh, and he also said, "It's a theory, not a law! I'll just make my cone theory! yes, everything is made of tiny cones!"

although I don't think string theory is that great because its not testable, it still pisses me off that he discredits everything all of the scientiscts do because its not in the ****ing bible.
 
theotherguy said:
I think I said something along those lines. For some reason he thinks that all science has gone downhill since 1970. He thinks that home computers are the most worthless invention of all time, and especially the internet, which he considers "evil"

I dont think I handled it very civilly though. It eventually just ended with him laughing at me because he thinks I'm naive and me screaming "you're an ignorant hick!"

oh, and he also said, "It's a theory, not a law! I'll just make my cone theory! yes, everything is made of tiny cones!"

although I don't think string theory is that great because its not testable, it still pisses me off that he discredits everything all of the scientiscts do because its not in the ****ing bible.
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not offense but your dad is a idiot
 
lePobz said:
I love being reminded just how unimaginably perfect everything is.
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Hang on one second, thats oddly logical. So many people say they see ghosts right, for arguements sake if they are a real phenomena it's actually explainable by string theory :O.

It would be a situation where the 5th dimension did a random fold close to or even intersecting the present time of the 3 dimensional universe.. then badda bing in our world you see a ghost for that moment.. ?
 
bbson john said:
I don't understand. How can that guy I identify the mass of dark matter is only occupy 21% of the universe? What is the experiment?
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It actually is a bit confusing. I don't know where they get the 21% figure probably what would be needed to make the universe behave how we would expect it? according to how we understand newtons laws anyway, but dark energy is that 96% figure.

i.e. the empty space between the atoms makes up 96 % of area in the universe, which is far more fundemental and important, so I wouldn't worry about dark matter, if we figure out dark energy then the dark matter should make more sense.
 
clarky003 said:
Hang on one second, thats oddly logical. So many people say they see ghosts right, for arguements sake if they are a real phenomena it's actually explainable by string theory :O.

It would be a situation where the 5th dimension did a random fold close to or even intersecting the present time of the 3 dimensional universe.. then badda bing in our world you see a ghost for that moment.. ?
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Eh? lol no. How would you explain them intersecting? If they bend them closely together, everything would follow that fold, so we wouldn't notice.

Also RJMC, watch the damn flash already. You need a little intelligence, that's all. If you're expecting 3 pages of mathematics, just open the flash and click "imagining the ten dimensions" in the navigation menu.
 
How they get the "21% is dark matter and 75% is dark energy" figure? How do they know those other is energy, not matter?
 
bbson john said:
How they get the "21% is dark matter and 75% is dark energy" figure? How do they know those other is energy, not matter?
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Because mass (dark matter) can't accelerate the expansion of the universe. So they probably calculated the mass of the universe needed to consist of 75% dark energy (energy is directly linked to mass) to make the acceleration of the expansion that we see possible.
 
The Brick said:
This documentary on dark matter just caught my attention.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...ocidfeed&hl=en
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Wow, even children are made of atoms!


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"I deeply respect Carlos Frenk. I love him as a person and I admire him as a scientist and I love his boobies, but I wish they weren't so pretty..."

What? LOL I guess he's saying movies but man I loled pretty good when I heard that :LOL:
 
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