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And when gordon first meets alyx, doesnt she say something like "Dr. Freeman i presume" Now, how would she (and the other esistance members) know who gordon is or what he looked like and if Eli told/showed her, WHY?, for what purpose if Eli hasnt seen him since black mesa (wouldnt he be assumed dead)?
another thing of interest. At the end breen says "Having both of you (eli and gordon) in my keeping ensures i can dictate the terms of any bargain i care to make with the combine <gay laugh>" Have i missed something already, why is it with both of them thats possible...do the combine want gordon and eli for something in return ??? Then Judith says "The bargain we should be making is for elis life so he can continue his research"
BUT if gordon was so valuable, why were the combine units ordered to kill him ? or does breen alone want Gordon ?, something to do with the above comment, using him as a bargaining chip
Gordon has been hired as a dimensional balance to the domination of the combine.
qdave said:isnt there some anouncement which says that it found unrecognized weapon or something? try playing that part again and listen what women says when all your weapons dissapear.
Sparkcaster said:5-which barney is the real barney (I didn't play Blue Shift)
jimmyjam said:also, the G-Man did not need to have given the hazard suit to the resistance
there are many hazard suits: we see them on corpses in xen and both gina cross and collette green wear them
add that to the fact that the design seems slightly different (was the HEV in hl1 Mk V?)...
Sparkcaster said:I've read all posts.Good theories.
I have some questions
1-How can survivor scientists come east europe from new mexico(black mesa)
2-How can our H.E.V suit come to hands of kleiner?(I said our because klainer says "your suit still fits you like a glove")I think it is difficult to get one suit from black mesa to new lab.
3-This one is a theory.I think g-man started a competition with resonance cascade.Guys in h.e.v suits in xen in hl1 are guys like us maybe huh? OR they are the scientists who visits xen before resonace cascade ?
4-We see women named gina in xen.who's she?
5-We say combine produce the super xenian soldier(alien grunts) from vorti.But we saw grunts in hl1 in tubes in a facility(where we found tau cannon) how can this be?
Bing_Oh said:Every indication is that the HEV in HL2 is Gordon's from HL...just modified. Kleiner makes the statement, "Your hazard suit still fits you like a glove...at least, the GLOVES do." His wording makes me believe that it definitely is YOUR hazard suit, not just another HEV scavenged from Black Mesa.
And, to answer your question, the hazard suit in HL is the HEV Mk IV, not Mk V. Kleiner acts as if he modifed the hazard suit himself...which may also mean that he's had it for quite some time. Hmmm...just how long has the rebellion been waiting for the reappearance of Gordon Freeman?
general griffin said:Man this thread just gets better and better.
Gman is training his replacement. Gordon Freeman.
Bing_Oh said:So, if it isn't "your" HEV, then that begs the question, what happened to Gordon's hazard suit from HL? The G-Man clearly tells gordon at the end of HL as he's confiscating all of his equipment, "As for the hazard suit, I think you've earned it."
There's minimal information regarding the HEV in HL2 and its origins, but the information available does point to it being Gordon's from HL upgraded by Kleiner from the Mk IV to the Mk V. In the absense of contradictory information, I think this is a safe assumption.
<m_k> said:The Combine is some kind of intergalactic interdimensional Uber-Empire of evilness. There have been plans to overthrow them by a certain rebellion, who also have gained lots of funds, tech etc. They are of course non-human and are sending G-men everywhere to bring the Combine down gradually and step-by-step. Our G-man is just one of many, and he has been chosen to perform the task of liberating Xen and Earth (and who knows what more?) So he assumes a human form, finds himself a good-lookin' hunka man who he will then help to liberate a couple of planets. Lots of G-men doing the same everywhere, result: the Combine's conquered areas are no longer under their control and the rebellion is spreading to other races. Maybe we will assume control of Gordon in sequels to either, liberate some more civilisations and be awarded a medal by the G-man's bosses, or be chosen out of all the G-man-stimulated-liberators to actually be the one who destroys the Combines homeplanet.
BigBabyJones said:I think all the events of HL2 are a farse. When you meet the first Vort, the Vort and a Human are watching a tv with G-man on it, and when they notice you, they quickly turn it off and act all surprised like "Hey there you are!" G-man is communicating with everyone in the game, he is the conductor of this orchestra. All the other people involved are just actors in this huge conspiracy. Odessa Cubbage? He was speaking with G-man before you get the rocket launcher. It was like you weren't supposed to notice them talking. Everything seems like an epic dream. Who knows what the reality is.
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Man this thread just gets better and better.
Gman is training his replacement. Gordon Freeman.
I agree about the thread. As for the g-man training Gordon, I wouldn't be so sure, but it's a possibility
Does he actually affect that?jimmyjam said:I believe the only time G-Man has ever been seen actually interacting with anything, besides speech, was the atomic bomb in Op4
That does seem likelyjimmyjam said:on the other end of the tally, he is invincible, appears not to be seen by npcs, disappears, stops time, walks on air, appears from thin air (end of HL2), and, at the beginning of HL2, seems to only appear in gordon's mind
I'd bet that if he is real (tyler durden theories are lame to me), he's some sort of psychic projection
It was mark 4 IIRC after the upgrades for HL2 it was renamed the Mk Vjimmyjam said:also, the G-Man did not need to have given the hazard suit to the resistance
there are many hazard suits: we see them on corpses in xen and both gina cross and collette green wear them
add that to the fact that the design seems slightly different (was the HEV in hl1 Mk V?)...
Personally I'd say they weren't from Xen, and theres no chance of them being the resistance (the resistance would have encouraged the destruction of Xen forces, waiting until they were freed to bother about the Humans)jimmyjam said:for those who doubt that the antlions are from xen: would you, upon seeing only the pacific northwest, not believe that elephants and giraffes are from earth? add that to the fact that the vorts seem to be the only ones who know how to control them... as I can only assume vorts would have more trouble falconing than a human family that has been raising falcons for centuries
one final thing... the Race X seemed to be enemies of the vort slaves/xen grunts in Op4, and were depicted as almost more sinister because they were purposely invading earth...in light of the events of HL2, could they be seen as Xen's equivalent of the resistance?