The g-man, controler of time?

[ríomhaire]

I was just pondering this and realised the only evedence is that everything stops moving and the g-man keeps mentioning time in his speech?
Now consider the opening speech. Does this prove that the g-man is in actual fact a TV? Or does his constant mentioning of waking up brand make him and alarm-clock. So, now we have a tv-alarm-clock that controls time

 

[Angry Lawyer]

I'd think he's actually altering Gordon's perception of time, rather than actually fiddling about with time. Or, at the maximum, just the continuum around Gordon.

-Angry Lawyer

 

[Mith']

Stopping time is impossible, think it over. Anyway I think it is (as Angry Lawyer mentioned) Gordons perception of time. Or the G-Man could do everything superfast, I really don't know..

 

[D.L]

I think that he actually removes gordon from time, like so.....
anyroad... then he alters his field of vision *magic fingers* so gordon thinks that he has stopped time which disorientates gordon into believing the g-mans story.

 

[Sheikah42]

i think he's god

 

[Cole]

Or maybe Gordon has just been on something this whole time ^_^. If you k now what I mean.

 

[FCBob]

Or maybe Gordon has just been on something this whole time ^_^. If you k now what I mean.

Evidence for this, he probably only saw the real G-man once and that was at the start of the first game. Being at the epicenter of the resonance cascade caused his brain to experience a narcotic effect and make up things like aliens and g-man. That's why when we first see the garg and gordon looks up in the control room for the tram he see's g-man. However the security guard in the tram control room doesn't say that anyone was ever their. Anywho at the end of hl Gordon OD's and goes into a coma. He wakes up 10 years later in a russian hospital because the russians are the only ones who will attempt a procedure to bring him out of the coma. He leaves the hospital but the drug acts like LSD and cause's him to have flash backs. He ends up wandering on the set of a horror movie that's supposed to be a town full of zombie's and starts swinging a crowbar wildly around. The crew of the set calls the police on him and they subdue him. However in the police car gordon starts yelling something about combine and kicks the back of the seat knocking the police man out. He drives the car along a coastal highway and actually drives himself to jail. The guards throw him in jail but seconds later a jail break occurs, freeing him. Gordon makes his way to the boiler room of the jail and hits the hit with a crowbar, ranting something about a teleporter as he does. The boiler explodes knocking him unconcious. He wakes a week later in another russian hospital yelling something about a "docter kleiner". He runs out of the hospital and terrorizes the streets of this russian urban area eventually taking the top floor of the tallest sky scraper hostage. However he OD's yet again and the hostage situation is resolved.


wow, now if that's not a worthless post i don't know what is. :thumbs:

 

[PhantomReality]

OMFG OMFG THE MOST AMAZING CRYPTIC DISCOVERY EVER?!
i know this is complicated but stay with me here:
okay whats the first letter of the gmans name?
its G
okay so now we have "G"
what is the first letter in "God?"
Its a "G"
So now we have G=G
We expand Gman=God
OMFG that was complicated

rofl but seriously ive always thought "gman" was like god-man or whatever.

 

[PhantomReality]

whooa just thought of this:
Gman = God
Gordon = Jesus 2.0
Breen = Satan
Combine = Forces of hell

rofl actually i think that would be kinda cool, but only if it was implied not if it was stated

 

[Asknoone]

I'd think he's actually altering Gordon's perception of time, rather than actually fiddling about with time. Or, at the maximum, just the continuum around Gordon.

-Angry Lawyer

Nail on the goddam head.

 

[Laivasse]

Yep, I'm with Lawyer and Samon on this. Although I lean towards "the continuum around Gordon". It's like Gman's got access to a pocket dimension where time moves far slower, kind of like the limbo that Alyx and Gordon were in between C17 and Nova Prospekt.

 

[shadowrun]

Stopping time is impossible, think it over. Anyway I think it is (as Angry Lawyer mentioned) Gordons perception of time. Or the G-Man could do everything superfast, I really don't know..

remember, the g-man has ties with the xen. his methods are not of this earth.

 

[Darkside55]

If he was only affecting Gordon's perception, he wouldn't be able to interact with other objects/people during the "time stop." Clearly we see him interacting with Alyx. The same if he's affecting only the time continuum around himself and Gordon.

He's definately messing with time, and it affects everything in the area, but how far the area extends, how long he can keep it up, and just exactly how he's doing it is the question. I don't really have a theory for that right now (I'll be sure to get right on that), but I'm sure the answer is probably, "technology."

 

[VincWZ]

I really think Gmans "magic" abilities have something to do with the suitcase he's always wearing. I also think the form of Gman that Gordon sees isn't his real form , but he digs in Gordons subconsiousness and forms himself into the mind image of a mysterious person he has.

 

[ríomhaire]

Sorry but he also has those abilites in HL1 and in HL1 this is what his suitcase contained

 

[D.L]

I really think Gmans "magic" abilities have something to do with the suitcase he's always wearing. I also think the form of Gman that Gordon sees isn't his real form , but he digs in Gordons subconsiousness and forms himself into the mind image of a mysterious person he has.

yeah but what about the time you see him interacting with cnl. odessa unless hes just a figment of your imagination too. How about gordon is actually part of a training program and the events in hl2 are actually him in a simulation game... but a very advanced one, or he is actually in a coma and the g-man is like minkey bone in the not-so-popular-but-very-quirky film about a man in a coma

 

[ríomhaire]

And talks to a scientist and someone in the military. And Barney and Shepard see him.

 

[ríomhaire]

crap, double post, sorry.

 

[Asknoone]

If he was only affecting Gordon's perception, he wouldn't be able to interact with other objects/people during the "time stop." Clearly we see him interacting with Alyx. The same if he's affecting only the time continuum around himself and Gordon.

He's definately messing with time, and it affects everything in the area, but how far the area extends, how long he can keep it up, and just exactly how he's doing it is the question. I don't really have a theory for that right now (I'll be sure to get right on that), but I'm sure the answer is probably, "technology."

Gman isn't actually there (in the citadel), and if you look carefully neither is Alyx (when gordons perception is altered). There is a faint black line around each and not to mention you can see through Gman. Also, the entire background disapears....it would be horrendous to have gman control time.

 

[D.L]

And talks to a scientist and someone in the military. And Barney and Shepard see him.

yeah but i meant that everyone were figments of his imagination that the g-man put there.

 

[Darkside55]

Gman isn't actually there (in the citadel), and if you look carefully neither is Alyx (when gordons perception is altered). There is a faint black line around each and not to mention you can see through Gman. Also, the entire background disapears....it would be horrendous to have gman control time.

I haven't seen the ending in awhile so I'm not sure about the black line. If the G-man wasn't controlling time, however, why even go through the trouble of creating an image of the last moment before the reactor blew up for him? And why bother to pretend to take some debris off of Alyx's jacket? One could argue the point that he wanted to show Gordon the aftermath (no pun intended) of his actions, just like he did on Xen in HL1, but when he did it then it was in "real time." I don't think he'd go through the trouble of messing with Gordon's perception just because he can.

On the other hand, it would explain G-man's ghost mode, Gordon being pulled away from the scene, and both the intro and ending portions where the G-man is right in front of him, and he's being shown different scenes or psychedelic patterns.

Personally though, I don't think it's horrendous that G-man can possibly stop time. As I said, he's obviously technologically superior to any of the factions that've been revealed throughout the HL series: human, Xen, and Combine. He can teleport anywhere; what's stopping him from teleporting to anywhen? He might not have actually stopped time himself, but he could have teleported to a static point in time where the reactor was exploding.

 

[ríomhaire]

what's stopping him from teleporting to anywhen?

the laws of the universe and the common sense that makes timetravel a paradox.

 

[kupocake]

Now consider the opening speech. Does this prove that the g-man is in actual fact a TV?

So that's what's inside his briefcase: women's clothing?!

Wait, we're talking a different kind of TV here aren't we...

 

[Darkside55]

the laws of the universe and the common sense that makes timetravel a paradox.

Common sense doesn't apply in sci-fi. Besides, while it's possible he might not be able to travel to ANY point in time, backwards or forwards, he still might have the ability to travel to a static point in time that's occuring. Consider that he was watching Gordon as he destroyed the Citadel, and he decided, "Ok, this is where I want to stop and bring him in." And all he did was pick that particular moment to freeze. Think of it this way: what if the G-man's technology allows him to manipulate the real world Tivo-style? He can pause real life. He's on about three TV screens in HL2 anyway, maybe that's where he got the idea?

 

[Asknoone]

I haven't seen the ending in awhile so I'm not sure about the black line. If the G-man wasn't controlling time, however, why even go through the trouble of creating an image of the last moment before the reactor blew up for him? And why bother to pretend to take some debris off of Alyx's jacket? One could argue the point that he wanted to show Gordon the aftermath (no pun intended) of his actions, just like he did on Xen in HL1, but when he did it then it was in "real time." I don't think he'd go through the trouble of messing with Gordon's perception just because he can.

On the other hand, it would explain G-man's ghost mode, Gordon being pulled away from the scene, and both the intro and ending portions where the G-man is right in front of him, and he's being shown different scenes or psychedelic patterns.

Personally though, I don't think it's horrendous that G-man can possibly stop time. As I said, he's obviously technologically superior to any of the factions that've been revealed throughout the HL series: human, Xen, and Combine. He can teleport anywhere; what's stopping him from teleporting to anywhen? He might not have actually stopped time himself, but he could have teleported to a static point in time where the reactor was exploding.

True...depends how they explain it really. Would be pretty stupid, if he could go ahead into the future or past etc, I'd hate that. Valve will most likley explain it properly

 

[ríomhaire]

But really if you stopped time and took yourself out of time everything would happen at once not just be like normal and it would not take even seconds to do anything as seconds are a measurement of time and there is no time because you stopped time so the g-man would not be walking, he would just be there and his speach and everything would be done in an instant, actually it wouldn't be because an instant still takes time. God, I'm confusing myself. :rolling:

 

[Angry Lawyer]

the laws of the universe and the common sense that makes timetravel a paradox.

But the laws of the universe and common sense state that pressing F9 won't take a snapshot of space-time for you to jump back to in case of an emergency.



-Angry Lawyer

 

[SsmitzZ]

well i think the g stands for goverment.. hes briefcase doesent seem very CREATOR OF THE UNIVURSY to me