The Largest Street Gang in America

did it? I havent watched it ..but will tonight
 
man I wish you people would post replies to these types of threads as if the OP hasnt seen the video yet ... :E
 
Maybe you shouldn't post them without watching it first.
 
I know where the video is. no need to search when I get home. and as an added bonus I get to hear opinion on the movie before seeing it. so what's the problem?
 
I know the police departments in the U.S. are ****ed up but this is beyond ****ed up.
 
The middle-eastern music in the background detracts from the seriousness of the message, it's kinda lame. That and the editing in some places.

Pigs gotta pay.
 
Couldn't watch beyond like 8 minutes, too infuriating. I don't need to see to the end to know what the police get up to. What's more, I believe it to be too frequent an occurrence to be dismissed with the 'one rotten apple' argument. In Britain, certainly, the Met' have repeatedly been shown to be little more than a bunch of dangerous thugs with no sense of being bound by the law they enforce.

What's more sickening than the police conduct, though, is the bystander effect as demonstrated by the onlookers. The only reason this kind of thing is possible in any context is because of the unwillingness of people to ever stand up for eachother, if there's any personal risk involved. This kind of abuse is barely possible against a crowd, yet far from showing a united front against such treatment, people are usually content instead to always let the isolated victim remain isolated, and therefore vulnerable. You'd be far less likely to ever see an officer choke slam a couple of 13 year old skateboarders in broad daylight if the gathering crowd could be counted on to do anything more than go 'ooooh...!', or say 'let the police handle this!'

One of those clips made me laugh, in a grim way, to see a herd of upper middle class suburbanites cluck and coo in perturbation at the sight of a middle aged man getting removed from a meeting of some kind, only to be punched in the head and have his arms twisted on the floor outside. 'Let the police handle this...!' - their battle cry, even as one officer seems to be urging his colleague to stop punching the man. People don't seem to be able to process the idea that the authority figures they fund and fellate might not have their best intentions at heart. Once the fat whale of an officer has stopped sitting on the prone old guy's back, one person dismisses the evidence of his own eyes to ask, '...did you trip and fall?!' No, he didn't trip and fall, you ludicrous, hopeless ****ing cipher...! He was being attacked in front of you while you told yourself it wasn't your responsibility to do anything.

It's these spiritless ****ing sycophants who piss me off most; the mollycoddled people who can't seem to digest that yes, the nice policeman will punch your dad in the head if it makes him feel good, because he knows you're too scared to do shit and he's very unlikely to face any kind of recrimination.
 
It is one bad apple, asshat. I could go into the details as to why you're full of horseshit and self-righteousness but I've long ago given up on trying to talk logic with bleeding-heart whiny bitches who think the gubment is out to get you.

You know why no one ever sees the things that cops do right? Because it doesn't make for interesting media. So pull your dick around and **** yourself because you know what? My dad was a cop, and it is one bad apple, or maybe a group but the vast majority of even just people you see on the street are not power-tripping bastards.

Then everyone is going to scream how I'm uninformed and pile about 30 videos on how 'Pig are evil, yo!' all in a row and you know what? I can ****ing guarantee none of you have been cops, so your opinion on them doesn't count for shit.
 
Maestro said:
Then everyone is going to scream how I'm uninformed and pile about 30 videos on how 'Pig are evil, yo!' all in a row and you know what? I can ****ing guarantee none of you have been cops, so your opinion on them doesn't count for shit.
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You've never been a Nazi (I hope) so your opinion on them doesn't count for shit!


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Its shit like this that makes me uneasy when the police are floating about despite the fact the last "crime" I committed involved not wearing a seatbelt accidently.


I dunno about America (your police have issues, really, thats just ****ed up) but in the UK allot of problems between police and public trust is there is no such thing as the "local bobby" any more.

The police all hide in their big stations only coming out to chase up a fine or something. They are never there in their own communities when they are needed and they are always there when they can force march you to a cash machine for daylight robbery for a complete non-offence or something.



And then police officers wonder why their "friends"/family/neighbours quieten up when they are around and then find an excuse to leave their presence.

Heres a hint officers: Its not hiding guilt, its because your career choice and attitude makes people feel like they cant trust you to not abuse powers designed to protect the public, not your own institution.



It is one bad apple, asshat. I could go into the details as to why you're full of horseshit and self-righteousness but I've long ago given up on trying to talk logic with bleeding-heart whiny bitches who think the gubment is out to get you.

You know why no one ever sees the things that cops do right? Because it doesn't make for interesting media. So pull your dick around and **** yourself because you know what? My dad was a cop, and it is one bad apple, or maybe a group but the vast majority of even just people you see on the street are not power-tripping bastards.

Then everyone is going to scream how I'm uninformed and pile about 30 videos on how 'Pig are evil, yo!' all in a row and you know what? I can ****ing guarantee none of you have been cops, so your opinion on them doesn't count for shit.
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"One bad apple" is an excuse and a cop-out.

Society doesn't tolerate it when the one bad apple is a soldier raping/torturing/killing people they are meant to protect, one bad apple is not an excuse for when an executive commits massive fraud and other financial crimes with can utterly ruin financially people in the company.

One bad apple doesn't excuse the actions of a doctor who gets a cheap thrill out of abusing/harming patients.

One bad apple doesn't excuse school shootings, violent criminals, bad corrupt politicians or anything.



The police like every other sector of society in a democratic developed nation serves the public. That means that like politicians you should be scared of the video camera and crawling on your belly for our votes/approval.

Anything else is just one step closer to tyranny. That's why when someone compiles a video of incidences of police abusing their authority to beat-up and harm members of the public (its not even legal when they are guilty so why is it excusable now?) the police should be ****nig bricking their knickers and should be tripping voer themselves to make amends and make things right.

The fact so many of these cases of abuse of position ends with the officer getting off or getting off with a slapped wrist provides compelling proof that this attitude that the public is there to fulfil the polices amusement is institutional.
 
What does being a policeman have to do with it?
It's not "One bad apple" Clearly it's a problem that is spread throughout the force. Perhaps the majority are not on powertrips. I'm sure they aren't in fact. But most aren't willing to turn in the "bad apples", the police who fragrantly break the law and abuse people.

They stick together, and take on the mentality of "It's us versus them" and that's dangerous for everyone.

Policemen are human beings and they're just as prone to being seduced by power as anyone.
 
Maestro said:
Then everyone is going to scream how I'm uninformed and pile about 30 videos on how 'Pig are evil, yo!' all in a row and you know what? I can ****ing guarantee none of you have been cops, so your opinion on them doesn't count for shit.
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Yeah because I'm not a cop, all that video evidence of police brutality and corruption means shit right?

I'm sure its hard to be a cop, considering how much contempt there is in the U.S for them, but none of that warrants the abuse of power you see in many, many of these videos.
 
What a load of horseshit. The reason people join police forces is to keep order and, believe it or not, help people. I know this might be a foreign concept to you but some people actually do desire to help others.
 
Maestro said:
It is one bad apple, asshat. I could go into the details as to why you're full of horseshit and self-righteousness but I've long ago given up on trying to talk logic with bleeding-heart whiny bitches who think the gubment is out to get you.
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who are you talking to?

:rolling:

Maestro said:
You know why no one ever sees the things that cops do right? Because it doesn't make for interesting media.
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cop saves cat from tree. cop helps old lady cross the street. you're right, that's nowhere near as interesting as "beat cop beaten badly for being on the take"


Maestro said:
So pull your dick around and **** yourself because you know what? My dad was a cop, and it is one bad apple, or maybe a group but the vast majority of even just people you see on the street are not power-tripping bastards.
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so which one is it: one bad apple or one bad grpoup of aplles. and do these bad apples travel to various cities because it seems to be systematic and not contained to "one bad (traveling) apple"

my dad was a mechanic. based on that every single mechanic on earth is trust worthy, just like my dear ole dad, I luv you poppa

Maestro said:
Then everyone is going to scream how I'm uninformed
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no, your posts speak for themselves, no need for anyone to scream

Maestro said:
and pile about 30 videos on how 'Pig are evil, yo!'
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so that's 30 bad apples. there has to be more because they couldnt have all been caught on camera. also bad apples existed before cameras

Maestro said:
all in a row and you know what? I can ****ing guarantee none of you have been cops, so your opinion on them doesn't count for shit.
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for now on you are not allowed to make any statement on anything that isnt about conservative teenagers named Maestro ..because your opinion on ANYTHING else is worth shit
 
Maestro , It's blatantly obvious that you hold a narrow minded bias towards the police force. If these were isolated incidents then you guys probably wouldn't need special non-profit organizations for dealing with them . The video not only documents specific cases of police brutality but goes on to reveal the culture that these individuals work in which supports a disregard for protocol and lawful conduct . It also describes studies of complaints that had later lead to over 1000 suspensions , your argument of "one bad apple" falls flat on its face . I'm sure its not the norm but it looks like it definitely is a problem .
 
Well, obviously there are many assholes with a badge but you can't judge all police officers solely on the misconduct portrayed by the officers in this video. I happen to know a bunch of cops that are great at their job...shit happens when those with power take advantage of it...Not to say that I don't think there should be harsh penalties for those who do actively engage in misconduct.
 
who polices the police? the police do


no, really. those who 's job it is to investigate police wrong doing are they themselves police officers. it's never, as it should be, investigated by a third party or by a civilian group.it's a clear conflict of interest. one thta police have traditonally counter by saying "that's too bad"
 
Maestro said:
It is one bad apple, asshat. I could go into the details as to why you're full of horseshit and self-righteousness but I've long ago given up on trying to talk logic with bleeding-heart whiny bitches who think the gubment is out to get you.
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While you might be happy living on your knees, apologetically responding to every demand that's made of you no matter how hostile, it's the responsibility of real grown-ups to ensure that we live in a world where abuses of power are as rare as they can possibly be.

Speaking of Britain:
In 1999 the MacPherson report found the Metropolitan police in London to be "institutionally racist", and the issues with senior officer Tarique Ghaffur last year suggest that serious problems still remain. Following the footage of excessive force and officers hiding their ID numbers at the G20 protests, the head of the IPCC (complaints commission) found it necessary to remind the police that they are 'servants, not masters' of the people, after having to investigate something like 200 complaints of brutality and misconduct. Two women in Kingsnorth were recently brutalised and held without access to their solicitors, after asking officers why their ID numbers weren't on display - part of a sustained harrassment campaign of police FIT teams towards peaceful protesters. Of the IPCC itself, their advisory body of lawyers quit cooperating with them last year, citing "dismay and disillusionment" at "the consistently poor quality of decision-making at all levels of the IPCC". From the Telegraph: "An investigation, by the Guardian newspaper, into the problems at the IPCC found evidence of favouritism towards the police, cases of indifference and rudeness towards complainants and extreme delays." A senior member of the IPCC stepped down not long ago and wrote a damning article about its ineffectiveness, although I can't find it in a cursory search. Countless anecdotal cases of minor abuses - community officers making religiously-motivated decisions, police officers confiscating cameras or reacting harshly when filmed or photographed... Then you have the deaths of Harry Stanley, de Menezes, Ian Tomlinson recently, and others...

This of course has nothing to do with American cops. However if you wanted to argue that they are not subject to the same problems, then you'd have to argue that they were more transparent, restrained and accountable than British ones. Good luck!

I suggest that the only reason you 'gave up' trying to talk logic is because you have none, only infantile tirades and hero-worship of your dad like this.
Maestro said:
You know why no one ever sees the things that cops do right? Because it doesn't make for interesting media. So pull your dick around and **** yourself because you know what? My dad was a cop, and it is one bad apple, or maybe a group but the vast majority of even just people you see on the street are not power-tripping bastards.
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The reason the police don't get a fanfare for doing their job well is because that is the STANDARD. I'm sorry if you're unable to get over this harsh fact of life, but people simply aren't going to make as much of a fuss when you do something well as when you do it badly. Furthermore, it is RIGHT that every incidence of police mistreatment is scrutinised and shouted about, because the only acceptable figure for instances of police abuse is 0.

The police can just take it as read that the public are extremely appreciative whenever an officer goes about their duties diligently, or exposes themselves to risk for the sake of others - because it's true. A good officer shouldn't need as much praise for his job to be done well, as he deserves criticism for when it's done badly. However, it's not the same thing to say 'there are a lot of very decent hardworking cops' as it is to say 'it's only one bad apple'. There ARE a lot of good hardworking cops - as there are a lot of good, hardworking people in most large organisations - but there also appear to be a hell of a lot of bad apples causing an endemic problem in many police forces. It's no surprise, due to the appeal the job has for simpletons who like to possess power and assert their physical dominance over others.
Maestro said:
Then everyone is going to scream how I'm uninformed and pile about 30 videos on how 'Pig are evil, yo!' all in a row and you know what? I can ****ing guarantee none of you have been cops, so your opinion on them doesn't count for shit.
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So your stance is 'they do a tough job, shut up stupid bleeding hearts, you can't complain about the police unless you're an officer'? Well congrats, you sound like perfect officer material.
 
man even when you're tearing someone's post to itty bitty pieces, you're still polite about it. this is something I've never been able to do. kudos to you :)
 
I'm sure there are police officers who just want to do their job and uphold the law. But I don't know which ones those are. For my own safety I have to assume a pig'll pull a taser on me at any minute.
 
CptStern said:
who polices the police? the police do


no, really. those who 's job it is to investigate police wrong doing are they themselves police officers. it's never, as it should be, investigated by a third party or by a civilian group.it's a clear conflict of interest. one thta police have traditonally counter by saying "that's too bad"
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This. The police in my city have managed to kill something like 6 people in the past 2 years who weren't posing them a threat.

One of the cops that killed a guy then got arrested for DUI a few months later.

He's still on the force.

On the flipside, at my old job I dealt with the cops on two different occasions, as well as several occasions in my neighbourhood, and they were very helpful and friendly.
 
CptStern said:
man even when you're tearing someone's post to itty bitty pieces, you're still polite about it. this is something I've never been able to do. kudos to you :)
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Polite, patronising, and hopefully infuriating. I need it translated to latin and put on some kind of crest.
lefty said:
I'm sure there are police officers who just want to do their job and uphold the law. But I don't know which ones those are. For my own safety I have to assume a pig'll pull a taser on me at any minute.
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Wise words, sadly... In Britain, and so it seems in America, the bond of trust between the public and the police has totally broken down. Both sides are only human, but the police are the ones in a position of being able to do most to maintain or break that trust - and to stop the relationship degenerating into a matter of 'sides' in the first place.
 
That was righteous.

The G20 protests were a depressing spectacle that broadcasted - for once with a little public reaction - all the faults of police conduct in the UK, and particularly of their attitude towards protesters. The domestic extremism unit is a particularly awful example of this.
 
Jesus Christ, this video makes me so angry. There really should be stricter rules about who becomes a cop.
 
Sulkdodds said:
That was righteous.
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which one?

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I watched up to 21:54 and that was all I could take.


A bad day at work for you or me might be, you spill coffee on your keyboard. Or the car won't start. When the Police have a bad day, they might be wheeled off to the Morgue. They live and go to work each day with that constant fear.

I am certain that every single one joined the force to make a positive impact on their communities. But many, at every law enforcement agency in this nation, give in to the overwhelming temptation of absolute power, which is what they have when they confront any 'suspect' in public. As we should all agree, absolute power corrupts absolutely. Immature police officers are especially drunk with this power, which is an addiction like any other. It's not always just one bad apple, but can be a whole barrel full of them, sometimes. And, since we'ree using that analogy let's take it a step further: the bad apple spoils the rest.

They are prone to many psychopathic tendencies, but no judge in this country would ever allow that kind of evidence. That's why you should never argue with them.

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I have been a victim of a corrupt police force. It happened long before everyone had portable video recording and communication devices.

All I did was make an illegal U-turn, and the arresting officer broke his hand punching me. I was charged with battery on a law enforcement officer, having neither provoked his actions nor offered any resistance. Plus, I was unconscious and face down on the ground with cuts to my face and right EYEBALL. (thankfully, I didn't lose it and have perfect 20/20 vision). The real problem, IMHO, is that I had no honest witnesses and there were eventually forty other officers on the scene. They will NEVER incriminate a fellow officer.

In that same year, the Ft. Lauderdale. FLA police force that f***ed me over had 1,459 other complaints of a similar nature, so it occurred exactly four times a day that year. Not a single Brutality incident was punished during that entire decade.

My opinion should be noted as biased. I'll admit that much.
 
This shit terrifies me. One of my biggest fears in life is to be powerless like many of those people in the video and be subjected to the whims of a madman. I was actually talking about it today with a friend, how a cop can arrest you for absolutely anything, and any measure of protest is enough justification to be, essentially, legally brutalized.

I am terrified of police officers. I don't have many fears at all really, but if I ever got into a heated encounter with a cop I would actually shit myself in freight and probably have a heart attack. It is absurd that we have no enforced rights to protect ourselves from them.
 
****in ****** propaganda...what a crock of shit **** "Bill" and his dumbass buddies.



"I'm a crackhead and I have a rappsheet that's as long as my arm, to piss off some cops I wanna file some complaints."
 
Heh, when I was in America I was terrified of the American lawmen. Over here, I view the local law enforcement as friendly, albeit stressed out people.












I think it's the guns. American lawmen have them, and are willing to use them.
 
unozero said:
****in ****** propaganda...what a crock of shit **** "Bill" and his dumbass buddies.



"I'm a crackhead and I have a rappsheet that's as long as my arm, to piss off some cops I wanna file some complaints."
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I'm not sure what you're trying to say.
 
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