The manipulator....in or out??

[DarkDamo]

in another thread i have read [it is on like the 20th page or something now] that the manipulator was not going to be in the final version of hl2

i find this VERY hard to belive.....van i have some confermation if the manipulator is in or out

no flames if u pls ;(

 

[KagePrototype]

Of course the manipulator will be in HL2.

You're probably confusing it with the physgun, which looks like the manipulator but isn't.It shoots out a blue beam so you can drag objects around and stuff. At first it wasn't going to be in the game, but apparently it is now. I think. It was used to show off physics at E3 2003.

 

[Chris D]

The manipulator itself will be in the game.

What you probably read was referring to the "physics gun", which is the gun with a blue beam that's just simply able to pick up objects and drop them.

It is thought that that won't be in the game.

 

[Brian Damage]

First the physics gun wasn't, then someone at... another site... said it will be, but since there's no appaent proof, it's a little questionable...

 

[Asknoone]

I think they both are

 

[Metatron]

I don't really get it why they would leave either one out. The physics gun is great for exactly placing object while the manipulator is better suited for shooting object if i'm not mistaking =)

 

[CrazyHarij]

I heard rumours that the Blue Beam weapon would be a sort of upgrade to the manipulator, or vice-versa..

 

[Scapegoat]

Pretty sure that the physgun (the blue beamed, object dragger) was just to show off physics. If it was in the final version of the game, it would not be part of the game in the way that you would earn/find it (you'd have to use a cheat to get it). The mannipulator/physcannon which can levitate objects and fire them will definately be in the game - and CrazyHarij, I think what the person meant when they said that the manipulator could be upgraded was that it's weight limit/grab range was increased.

 

[Axyon]

I'm sure the Physgun will be modded in very early on (if it's not already accessable by a cheat), because it's a very different take on the physics manipulation compared to the actual manipulator.

 

[Diablo2k]

Im sure it will be in the SP, but if HL 2 has HL 2 themed mp it isn't likely that its in that mp. Since that kind of physics are currently too demanding online.

 

[ukfluke]

plz call them by their leak names "zero-point-gun" and "physgun" kthx

but it seemed the physgun(blue beam) was just to demo the physics but personally i think they will have it in somwhere (the physgun wasnt available on any of the leak levels beside the tech demo). The zero point gun was always in and still is.

 

[NeptuneUK]

there will be some super cool guns we havent seen yet i bets

 

[Yellonet]

Two "physics" guns would be too much I think. You should be able to hold, drop and throw things with your hands/arms.. but I guess we wont see that ;(


- Yellonet

 

[Dynasty]

well we havent seen the sniper rifle or flare gun yet

the physics gun sould be in hl2. it gives the ability have an extra arm to move objects with precision. i heard a rumour that it will be able to join multiple objects together, so one can build a wall or new bullbars for the buggy....

 

[KagePrototype]

Two "physics" guns would be too much I think. You should be able to hold, drop and throw things with your hands/arms.. but I guess we wont see that ;(


- Yellonet

You can do that actually. Watch the Ravenholm BINK.

 

[M1RAG3]

Valve specifically stated that the physgun (the weapon witht the blue beam) was nothing more than a developer toy, to play with/demonstrate the capabilities of what the Source engine can do, remember the 2003 E3 Demo, with the pachinko machine, etc...

But most likely, with all dev toys, it will be able to be obtained using "give weapon_physgun", which seems the most logical conclusion.

 

[f0rked]

I heard somewhere on another site from someone claiming to have playtested HL2 at valve's offices that

Spoiler

the physgun will be in the game (unknown if its just as a cheat, or as an actual game weapon), due to its apparent popularity in the leak, and also thats it's easier to use/weld, apparently.

And so you know, the guy seemed pretty legit, but I wouldn't go out on a limb and say its 100% definite.

 

[Yellonet]

You can do that actually. Watch the Ravenholm BINK.

Ahh... never noticed before.. maybe because you can't see his arms The player throws one barrel.. hopefully you can also set down things gently. Can you distract guards by throwing stonea perhaps


- Yellonet

 

[Yellonet]

You should be able to make a gravity gun... shoot a graviton thingie at some guy and see all sorts of stuff be thrown(sucked) on him... MUAHAHAHAHA...

Will you be able to make the guns 3d-model in the editor? probably not.. but maybe?


- Yellonet

 

[el Chi]

plz call them by their leak names "zero-point-gun" and "physgun" kthx

Why? The "Zero point gun" is most commonly known and referred to as the Manipulator, even by Valve. Not everyone has played the leak, so why should we bother? More people know what the Manipulator is than the "zero point gun." Silly person.

 

[ukfluke]

becuase someone called the physgun the manipulator whuch is just plain confusing.

p.s u can weld stuff together using the physgun

 

[laz]

I welded 4 propane tanks to the sides of the buggy shot the tips booooommmmm instant flying @ 200 mph

 

[Letterhead]

What I want to know is: if the physgun is in the game, will you be able to kill combine by picking them up with it and smashing them on the pavement a couple of times?

 

[Axyon]

What I want to know is: if the physgun is in the game, will you be able to kill combine by picking them up with it and smashing them on the pavement a couple of times?

You can't manipulate alive Combine soldiers with the actual manipulator weapon, so I assume it's the same for the physgun.

 

[Yellonet]

What I want to know is: if the physgun is in the game, will you be able to kill combine by picking them up with it and smashing them on the pavement a couple of times?

That's exactly why I think it shouldn't be in the game. Once you get the physgun you wont need to use regular weapons, save for taking out enemies at a distance, this is probably the reason that the manipulator cannot interact with enemies, it would be too easy that way. As it is now, you have to kill your enemies indirectly, by throwing things on them for instance, which is more of a challenge.

 

[Dr. Freeman]

theres been alot of talk of all these weapons (manipulator, mp5-7?, magnum, sniper rifle etc..) but what about alien weapons?

i really hope the spore launcher is in HL2 even tho it was an OP4 weapon.. but the thing is.. OP4 is part of HL's universe and it doesn't make sense to toally ignore that part and all its weapons and such.

i hope there are some creative alien weapons which have been kept secret

 

[clarky003]

I'm sure the Physgun will be modded in very early on (if it's not already accessable by a cheat), because it's a very different take on the physics manipulation compared to the actual manipulator.

valve obviously have already got it programmed somewhere, im sure it'll be accessable by a cheat

 

[She]

I heard rumours that the Blue Beam weapon would be a sort of upgrade to the manipulator, or vice-versa..

I think so too..
Isn't it the same weapon just in a different mode?

If you look at the HL2-Ravenholm BINK, in one point you see the manipulator blow away a "crate" so that gordon can enter a room..

(yellow beam)

NOW WATCH closely..
as the manipulator "changes shape" and becomes the "drag-manipulator"..

 

[clarky003]

I think so too..
Isn't it the same weapon just in a different mode?

If you look at the HL2-Ravenholm BINK, in one point you see the manipulator blow away a "crate" so that gordon can enter a room..

(yellow beam)

NOW WATCH closely..
as the manipulator "changes shape" and becomes the "drag-manipulator"..

it changes shape?? lol didnt see that. you mean it's fork arm's open at the front.

 

[She]

Damn!... Eh.. Sorry..
EDIT: why isn't there a "delete post" button?

 

[Jimmo]

i can see a darth vader mod working well with the manipulator... a new skin for gordon (even though theres no reflections peh) , the constant sound of his robotic lungs (im sure this would drive alot of people insane ) , a lightsaber for his crowbar and then the manipulator for his hand. he could also pick live people up and choke them muhahahaha

 

[Glo-Boy]

The manipulator does not change shape, it's little arm thingies in the front open when there is an object that it could feasibly pick up.

 

[Dekstar]

becuase someone called the physgun the manipulator whuch is just plain confusing.

Spoiler

p.s u can weld stuff together using the physgun

Keep stuff like that in Spoiler quotes, please, ukfluke. Not everyone has played the beta, and not everyone wants to know things in the game that VALVe hasn't told us.

then again, if VALVe has said that's what you can do, then sorry for the mix-up.

 

[NeptuneUK]

its not in the beta.

*dont ask how i know!!*

erm... this...guy...told.. me, thats right

 

[Puzzlemaker]

Well, I was thinking, and what happens if they have both guns in the game? Easily accessable... however, using them takes up ammo. Has anybody thought of that?

 

[slider3005]

it cant weld things, that would make no sense at all. and i dont even think you can "weld" in source

 

[f0rked]

It can, and does. It just doesn't weld things in the melting metal sense. Or so I hear.

 

[clarky003]

it cant weld things, that would make no sense at all. and i dont even think you can "weld" in source

if you want to get the full story on the 'welding', ask someone who played the leak, in PM form.

 

[DrPowers]

Its not going to be an official weapon because it doesnt add any additional gameply that the grav gun doesnt. It will prob be a cheat tho and someone will mod it so that you can use the gun.

 

[f0rked]

Doesn't add any additional gameplay? Imagine welding a gas cylinder to a box, then sending it rocketing off down a hallway into some combine soldiers. Or having to weld one to your buggy in order to make a jump you couldn't normally do. Or welding sheets of metal to the outside of your buggy to use as armour. I think it'd add a whole lot to gameplay.