The Matrix: Revolutions Discussion *SPOILERS LIKELY*

Hmmm....I need to go watch it again...I'm not sure what I think of it
 
wow, just saw it! AWSOME :D

Will definately go and see it again in a week or two :D
 
mine too,heheheheheh

welcome back King John, we missed you.
 
yeah, school and such, i missed all of lunch today cos of my french teacher, he made me do my homework though my lunch break! stupid school. i sat on a fat kid today. cant talk for much of the day cos of school.


yes you do have a nice avatar dont you?
 
Now, would you guys recommend I go see this one drunk like I did the last one?
 
Excellent movie, is all I can say. I didn't like the ending too much, though. Oh well, can't have everything. I really didn't like Reloaded, but this is a great improvement.

One thing guaranteed though- you will enjoy the huge fight scene. Oh yes.

Edit: I've changed the title to make this the official Revolutions discussion, plus spoiler warnings.
 
its kinda obvious that after neo saves zion he will have nothing left to do but work at Mcdonalds for the rest of his life.


im seeing the movie tomarrow
 
there is even a small reference to Matrix 1 :

SPOILER!!!!!!!!

when trinity and Morpheus get out of the train to chase the trainman there is a big Advertisement on the wall of "Tastie Wheat"



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NOOoooo what the hell am i doi ng in a spoiler thread when i havn't seen the movie???

i just cant resist, and i have payed the price.......






but hey, tastie wheat, cool.
 
well the review of it in the newspaper said it sucked, and that no series has ever gone from so high to so low. it detailed how the whole movie was dragged-on and ultimately pointless, and that the two set piece fight scenes were more like consolation prizes. looks like i'll be saving my money for LotR 3 :)

now obviously if someone thought the second one was good, they'd probably think the third one will be good too :p i thought the second one was horrible.
 
Matrix was OK, Reloaded sucked major balls.

Hope this is better than Reloaded though.

I kind of liked when Neo wasn’t so strong (In Matrix 1) as he was in Reloaded. And that scene when he fought with 100 Agent Smiths was just stupid… it looked so unreal, you could really see that Neo was computer-generated.

The scene where Trinity drove the motorcycle where pretty cool, especially when the truck collided with an other truck.
You could really se how the trucks got totally destroyed in slow-motion. :)

Anyway, I’m going to wait and see Swedish reviews of this movie.
 
Wow...I'd just like to interject that that paper reviewer has NO idea what they're talking about. I have to wonder if they've seen the first ones.
 
i just saw it. what a load of cack. sorry but it's ridiculous.
 
****ing awsome, all i can say

my jaw is still back in the cinima after the war of zion

anyone thinks it sucks can bite me.


the ending was questionable though but a huge improvement over reloaded.

ps, i saw a trailer for rotk, looks unbeliveable. cant wait.
 
You have to think a lot about the ending...I've already come to some conclusions that I didn't get at first. And another watch through will probably help.
I was always into Reloaded, but I appreciate it even more as a part of the greater story with Revolutions.
 
I just got back from the movie and I must say it is an absolutely amazing film, seriously. It works on all levels, all. The story is fantastic, the battles are fantastic, the special effects are fantastic. It is a truly great movie. Again, the movie has some deeper meanings, and a lot of religious symbolism (a lot of symbolism in general really). An excellent film.
 
hey nerdguy, that avatar is from equlibrium (spelling) am i right,

i work at a video shop and i looked up at the loop tape and saw a trailer for it. looks ****ing awsome, i imediately recognised it from you avatar. can't wait till nov 19, when we get it in. (australia)
 
go see it as soon as you can, pay no attention to the critics either. They all seem to think that the first hour of the movie was boring (the local critic went as far as to say it was the worst hour of film he has eve seen in his entire life, he's just an idiot with no capacity for a narrative), but I assure you it is not. The story is actually quite moving and surprising, and the first hour is partially story, partially action while the rest of the film is unrelentless action which serves only to further the story (it's never mindless action).
 
I might just wait for a box-set of all 3 because I remember nothing of #1, iontknow.
 
OK, without spoiling the movie, can someone tell me if Neo's new magical abilities (in the real world) will finally be logically explained or are we just supposed to take them for granted.

Also, does the Architect conversation make any more sense now?
 
Originally posted by thehunter1320
cause it wasn't real... it was a movie
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Really? I thought I was watching the real thing...

Of course it’s a movie. But they could make it look a little better.
 
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Ok.. my only somewhat confused part is this: The end. When neo allows himself to be overwritten. This could possibly be a direct refrence to Christ dying do destroy sin or evil (Smith). A non-religious way of looking at it could just be that the Oracle knew she would be absorbed so to speak and planned on it. She remained inside Smith's coding knowing that Neo would eventually be defeated as well. She surfaces and speaks through Agent Smith with that, "Everything that has a beginning, has an end" thing..and Smith doesn't know what's going on. Neo realize what he must do. Smith panics and overwrites Neo. Together somehow they destroy Smith from the inside er whatever...the Oracle is basically god...and Neo is a hacker..I guess..

^^^
What do you guys think of this. I've still been thinking about it. Gonna see it again on Saturday to further refine my theories.









*SPOILER END*

EDIT: There should be a font color the same as the background..so for spoilers we can just highlight text instead of making giant spaces as warnings.
 
Poetic, yet tacky. :D
Amish: I think there's a lot of ways to look at that. My favorite so far is the matter/anti-matter thing. You can't have both at the same time, and Neo and Smith cannot exist without the other one to balance them out. Therefore neither can win the fight, and it follows that for Neo to be destroyed means that Smith must also be destroyed, and they cancel each other out.
Thats the overall view of it, to get the exact specifics I'll have to watch it again.
Edit: I just got my hands on that review that gave the movie one and a half stars. The source is Knight Ridder Newspapers (who seem to be systematicly stupid most of the time), and the write demonstrates a total ignorance of what hes talking about. I plead that no one takes it as an actual indication of what the film is like.
 
Originally posted by Direwolf
Poetic, yet tacky. :D
Amish: I think there's a lot of ways to look at that. My favorite so far is the matter/anti-matter thing. You can't have both at the same time, and Neo and Smith cannot exist without the other one to balance them out. Therefore neither can win the fight, and it follows that for Neo to be destroyed means that Smith must also be destroyed, and they cancel each other out.
Thats the overall view of it, to get the exact specifics I'll have to watch it again.
Edit: I just got my hands on that review that gave the movie one and a half stars. The source is Knight Ridder Newspapers (who seem to be systematicly stupid most of the time), and the write demonstrates a total ignorance of what hes talking about. I plead that no one takes it as an actual indication of what the film is like.
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This just occurred to me. Smith made a big "Purpose" speech in Reloaded... Smith's only purpose after he was exiled was to destroy Neo. After he'd done that...he had no other purpose. There was nothing left to do.

I have to watch that speech again to see what he says exactly, but that may have something to do with it.
 
wow this movie was kick ass. it owned reloaded.

bueatiful ending too. Had alot of hinduism and buddims compared to the last 2 as well. also a lil christianiaty, but not as much as the other 2.

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i like how the matrix is still alive, but humans get a choice wether to leave or not..

im glad every1 was not free'd, otherwise 90% of them would die of shock and starvation in the pods.
 
Let me explain something to you all.
The Matrix 1 was great. The Wachowski Brothers thought it was such a big success because of the flashiness, so they based the next two movies purely on special effects. This = bad movies.
 
* With the overall lack of explanations, why did they go into so much questioning about the Oracle's new physical appearance, what did it cause her to "change" in /after Reloaded that she never finished explaining? (apart from the sudden dead of Gloria Foster in 2001 from diabetes).

* Sati, the little girl, was supposed to stay with the Oracle, at least that was what her father said in the train station. With the Oracle she would be safe, because the Matrix doesn't know where the Oracle is (although for Agent Smith, it didn't seemed that difficult to find her). It's interesting how programs relate to programs only (Oracle with Seraph, Merovingian with Persephone, the keymaster and all the freakiest programs from the Matrix).

* About that, why programs die? If they are part of the Matrix (which means they don't have a human link outside) they are not supposed to die, they could be rebooted and run again. Why then all the Merovingian's pals are beaten up and dominated by the humans who really die if their minds believe so...?
This actually makes some sense to me since the "survivors" of the Matrix we see are indeed programs: Sati and the Oracle (who we saw overtaken by Smith) are in the end very healthy, after the Deja-vu correction of the Matrix "anomaly" (one of hundreds)...

* Keanu is conveniently blinded, which is great since the cloth covering his eyes saved us from seen (at least for a short time) how inexpressive he could get. Imagine the scene when Trinity is dying... with that glimpse of half of his face we don't believe his suffering, what we could expect from his eyes, which usually are the more expressive tools actors use?

* Although I still don't get why Keanu can see Bane and the machines like if they were IN the Matrix when they are actually OUTSIDE the Matrix (i.e.: in the Machine City).

* And if he can actually use his Matrix sense, why he couldn't save Trinity this time (one bullet, couple of poles >similar holes)? He doesn't need to be INSIDE the Matrix for that magic with his superpowers...he was destroying the bombs with one hand.

* About Adam Langley's comment: "Neo and Smith were opposite (remember all the crap about balance in the matrix?) that's why Smith absorbing Neo didn't work too well."
He is right: The story always remarks the search for balance within the Matrix. Even the programs are created for balancing the human emotions/ behaviors. It caught my attention that they even worked around such balance with the new Oracle -new fashion- statement. Did anyone notice her Ying/Yang earrings?

* Why the rainy fight if all that Neo had to do was to get absorbed by Smith? It was a simple trap, why Neo went into such beating? And isn't it curious that it was actually the Oracle/Smith the one fighting against Neo? I guess there is a meaning because we saw Smith hesitant about the Oracle laid back attitude about being taken. And the new Smith/Oracle smiling evilish like if there was something we should expect from this.

* "Keanu let Hugo Weaving get into him so that he could destroy all the Hugo Weavings through their other-wordly connection to each other. Keanu can do this though he's ALREADY dead."
We don't have any certainty that he IS ALREADY dead, we only know that he was absorbed by Smith which means nothing since later we see the Oracle and Sati doing very well).
Neo said to Deus ex machina that he KNEW how to stop Smith, and he would not fail on his quest...

* About this, did anyone sees a resemblance on the way Neo is taken into the machine's glowing lights on his floating platform to the story in Excalibur ( or "Le Morte D'Arthur"), where near-to-death King Arthur goes to Avalon (where he was taken to be healed of his fatal battle wounds, waiting to be called upon to rescue his country in its hour of need)??.
I think we could find many more similarities with other classic stories.

* You're right about the ending, they would make more profits out of it, the new Oracle even left Neo with a chance for returning when the so-called peace will be broken by a new league of human saviors, claiming not to be exploited by the machines (even claiming for the ones who CHOICED to be used as energy supply).
And I'm sure this would lead to a sequel, 'cos Neo may be alive (just needs some fixing, something machines are very capable of performing, since they already create humans from birth without the traditional methods ;)
BTW, I wouldn't be surprise if Trinity re-appears, something that machines could do by resuscitating her right after Neo left and keeping her in one of those energy cocoons...
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well im just glad it dind't have a typical hollywood ending were teh humans all win and machines all die like the evil baseterds.it evened out.
 
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