The Matrix

[Incitatus]

The speeches provide not meaning, but the effect of meaning: It sure sounds like those guys are saying some profound things.

That will not prevent fanboys from analyzing the philosophy of "The Matrix Reloaded" in endless Web postings. Part of the fun is becoming an expert in the deep meaning of shallow pop mythology; there is something refreshingly ironic about becoming an authority on the transient extrusions of mass culture, and Morpheus (Laurence Fishburne) now joins Obi-Wan Kenobi as the Plato of our age.

I say this not in disapproval, but in amusement. "The Matrix" (1999), written and directed by the brothers Andy and Larry Wachowski, inspired so much inflamed pseudo-philosophy

"Roger Ebert"

I couldn't have said it better myself, except that I do disapprove. The Matrix is a travesty of cinema

EDIT: oh and for those who don't know who Roger Ebert is, look him up.

 

[KagePrototype]

Brilliant action sequences though.

 

[Incitatus]

Yes but action movies are only fun if they don't pretend to be something they aren't. Like die hard or predator

 

[StardogChampion]

If only they had filmed them back-to-back like LOTR. It was probably money-driven after the first movie, which is why they are sub-par.

 

[WySiWyG]

Yes but action movies are only fun if they don't pretend to be something they aren't. Like die hard or predator

Classics.

 

[Warbie]

The Matrix and Animatrix were both great

No. 2 & 3 were complete shite :/

 

[KagePrototype]

Yes but action movies are only fun if they don't pretend to be something they aren't. Like die hard or predator

Meh, I enjoyed the matrix movies. Contrary to what you might think, there's a lot underneath the surface. Certainly not to the extent that some matrix fanboys will try to make you believe, but listening to the philosopher's commentaries on the matrix boxset is interesting to say the least.

And then there's the critic's commentaries, which are even better.

 

[[Matt]]

I dont look for any hidden meaning in the matrix and i thought the first film was ace despite the fact that the Wachowski's ripped off the story from a script they once read.

 

[Warbie]

It just seemed the series was trying to be clever for clevers sake - and even failed at that.

 

[Incitatus]

It just seemed the series was trying to be clever for clevers sake - and even failed at that.

exactly

 

[Darkside55]

Who really cares about the pseudo-philosophical crap, or what Col. Sanders had to say at the end of Reloaded? The movies were cool because stuff blowed up and there was kung fu and giant robots.

In fact, I enjoyed Reloaded and Revolutions more than the first Matrix film for those reasons.

 

[KagePrototype]

There were definately a lot of faults with the second and third movies, and with some greater care they could have been ironed out. Which is a shame, because I quite like the story; they just made a mess of it all.

Still, the Wachowski Brothers know their action scenes,. and even though a lot of it looks blatantly fake, it's still exhilirating to watch. There aren't many movies that can match these scenes, IMO.

 

[Foxtrot]

My friend bought the DVD pack of all the matrix movies and they have some commentary thing in it that he claims explains it all, like they were actually trying to get bad press for the movie or something weird like that.

 

[KagePrototype]

My friend bought the DVD pack of all the matrix movies and they have some commentary thing in it that he claims explains it all, like they were actually trying to get bad press for the movie or something weird like that.

I don't remember hearing that from either commentaries. But the philosopher's commentary does help explain the story, at the very least. Nothing about deliberate bad press, though they do try to explain why people don't like the sequels by saying they simply don't understand it (which I think is rubbish). The critics are a lot more grounded, they point out the faults very easily.

 

[SimonomiS]

Is the boxset worth buying then? Ive bought all the dvds separate in my fanboyishness, but I think buying the boxset AS WELL, is a bit too fanboyish. Unless the commentaries and extras make up for it.

 

[sabre0001]

I really liked 1...2 was also quite good but 3 wasnt fantastic...still good scenes though.

I think a lot of people say that 2 & 3 were bad because 1 put up such a huge standard...i mean, what could they do after that to wow people...Other films have now used the techniques used in 'The Matrix' films so its an inspirational film...

 

[KagePrototype]

Is the boxset worth buying then? Ive bought all the dvds separate in my fanboyishness, but I think buying the boxset AS WELL, is a bit too fanboyish. Unless the commentaries and extras make up for it.

The extras are pretty good; there's a documentary on philosophical influences, as well as a little look on modern technology and it's relevance, both of which are pretty decent. Then you have the making of stuff for the sequels, which totals about 2/3 hours of material. And then there's the commentaries, which are fun to listen to, and a dscif ull of trailers, drawings etc.

The original movie also has a new transfer, which makes it look a lot better. It's really up to whether you think you could afford it.

 

[DeusExMachina]

I really liked 1...2 was also quite good but 3 wasnt fantastic...still good scenes though.

I think a lot of people say that 2 & 3 were bad because 1 put up such a huge standard...i mean, what could they do after that to wow people...Other films have now used the techniques used in 'The Matrix' films so its an inspirational film...

I agree. After the Matrix...how could the sequels be better? And we were expecting a lot.

 

[el Chi]

No. 2 & 3 were complete shite :/

The Matrix Reloaded and Revolutions make baby Jesus cry.
They definitely make me cry because they were so diabollically written it was almost offensive. I want to be a writer and to see the Wachaowski brothers toss off some appalling drivel like that and make millions turns my stomach. They couldn't write their way out of a wet paper bag and they can f*ck themselves with a sword for all I care. In fact, I'll be there, spit-roasting both of them with blades, screaming.

Dodge this you c*nts! Muhahahaaa!