The New "unlock" system

It's annoying, I want to play with new Spy toys and I have no idea what I'm supposed to do to get them.
 
I tried getting yourself killed stuff and it didn't work...then the melee off a log...whack a crotch and the snorting.....doesn't make sense but I notice the medic was inhaling the fumes from his medic gun...new taunts?

wtf valve...you just love to piss us off grinning to your eyelids squeeze your eyeballs from they're sockets...
then you'll say ooops there was a problem on level of a damn bank in Washington squeezing all they're fat asses into the floor while a programmer just took a huge dump in they're unisex bathroom and now look what has happen.......

STOP ****ING WITH US VALVE AND FIX THE PROBLEMS YOUR SMART ASSES!!
 
Norn said:
I tried getting yourself killed stuff and it didn't work...then the melee off a log...whack a crotch and the snorting.....doesn't make sense but I notice the medic was inhaling the fumes from his medic gun...new taunts?

wtf valve...you just love to piss us off grinning to your eyelids squeeze your eyeballs from they're sockets...
then you'll say ooops there was a problem on level of a damn bank in Washington squeezing all they're fat asses into the floor while a programmer just took a huge dump in they're unisex bathroom and now look what has happen.......
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This is the single most impenetrable post I have ever read.
Good work.


STOP COMPLAINING GUYS IF THERE'S A PROBLEM THEY'LL FIX IT OKAY
 
This new system is completely and utterly useless, Valve should put it back to the old ways before anybody realises how crap it is.
 
Nicky 0123 said:
This new system is completely and utterly useless, Valve should put it back to the old ways before anybody realises how crap it is.
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Hmmm, no. I'd rather play the game and look for weapons than spend hours farming achievement instead of playing.

I like the new system.
 
chimpmunk said:
Hmmm, no. I'd rather play the game and look for weapons than spend hours farming achievement instead of playing.

I like the new system.
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How do you look for weapons? As far as i can tell it's random, and it could take ages to get the new unlocks. At least with Achievements you knew how much longer you had till you got an unlock while with this update i've been playing for over 4 hours and still not got one.
 
PimpinPenguin said:
How do you look for weapons? As far as i can tell it's random, and it could take ages to get the new unlocks. At least with Achievements you knew how much longer you had till you got an unlock while with this update i've been playing for over 4 hours and still not got one.
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I'd rather play tf2 for 4 hours and get nothing than farm achievement for 2hours to get weapons.
 
chimpmunk said:
I'd rather play tf2 for 4 hours and get nothing than farm achievement for 2hours to get weapons.
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Yeah, but i used the Achievement unlocker so i didn't have to use the achievements servers.
I had to Scout's new weapons right away thank to that.
 
I like that I don't have to play classes I hate to unlock the stuff that makes those classes more fun to play (case in point: HUNT, HUNT, HUNT, HE'S THE HUNTSMAN). That is great.

The randomness and the getting shit you already own sucks major balls though.
 
I prefer the new way. It'll definitely encourage trial players to buy imo.
 
Eejit said:
I prefer the new way. It'll definitely encourage trial players to buy imo.
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Finally we agree on something. The new system is better in that you actually play, instead of farming and disrupting the game for others.

It just sucks though that you get stuff you already got.
 
Yeah, you can't tell me the old system was awesome in the effect of "OH LOOK NEW PATCH, FORGET HAVING A BALANCED TEAM INSTEAD OF 10 SCOUTS!" or what have you.
 
I'm not convinced the new unlock system is working as intended or fully complete yet. My current theory is that it isn't taking into account weapons gained via the old system so it sits there thinking you need all the old weapons.
So, no, I don't think the system is meant to be giving you duplicates.

I also think it's odd that it does things giving spectators unlocks for just sitting there, surly Valve's unlock plan isn't so random?
 
I wonder if you'll get weapons just sitting in your own server, or in commentary map :p
Some bugs to be ironed out in the new system, but its good in general.
 
New system sucks. If they make it so it can't give you duplicates it'll be better, but it'll still suck. And it's not deterring people from spy+sniper-spamming: Servers are still full of 'em.
 
I like it so far. I've gotten the Dead Ringer and the Sandvich while playing as Scout and Medic. I don't think it's completely random because when I unlocked those weapons, I was doing particularly well before I died.
 
I think the new system is only going to last as long as this free weekend.

EDIT: I guess that's why they made it so you can delete items from your inventory.
 
Cpt Tenacious said:
I think the new system is only going to last as long as this free weekend.

EDIT: I guess that's why they made it so you can delete items from your inventory.
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Valve has already stated that they would do away with the achievements = weapon unlocks model. So it is likely the random drops will stay (which is a good thing).
 
Well now I've played the update for a decent amount of time I am actually starting to enjoy the new unlock system. It was annoying at first but after a while you pick up your first new weapon, you have no idea what it's going to be until it pops up telling you its unlocked. It also creates friendly atmospheres on servers, players congratulating each other depending on the weapon etc.
 
Farming now consists of spectating. Apparently being AFK still allows you to get the random awards. Today on pipeline, both teams were loaded with lurkers. Might have been that particular server though.
 
Nicky 0123 said:
Well now I've played the update for a decent amount of time I am actually starting to enjoy the new unlock system. It was annoying at first but after a while you pick up your first new weapon, you have no idea what it's going to be until it pops up telling you its unlocked. It also creates friendly atmospheres on servers, players congratulating each other depending on the weapon etc.
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So what do you actually 'pick up'? is there like a little box somewhere? Does it just come to me automatically? Can someone else take it?

This is ****ing shit in my opinion, for once the "this update ruined the game" crew are right, the game ****ing stinks.

**** YOU VALVE, I WANT MY JAR OF PISS.
 
kazsymonds said:
So what do you actually 'pick up'? is there like a little box somewhere? Does it just come to me automatically? Can someone else take it?

This is ****ing shit in my opinion, for once the "this update ruined the game" crew are right, the game ****ing stinks.

**** YOU VALVE, I WANT MY JAR OF PISS.
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You do nothing. Just play. A message will pop up in the bottom left saying "x has found jarate." When you die it asks you if you want to equip it or whatever. Completely random.
 
Basically you can completely ignore the weapons until you find the one you want, it's awesome.
 
Basically you can just sit in spectator for hours and get stuff.
 
kazsymonds said:
So what do you actually 'pick up'? is there like a little box somewhere? Does it just come to me automatically? Can someone else take it?

This is ****ing shit in my opinion, for once the "this update ruined the game" crew are right, the game ****ing stinks.

**** YOU VALVE, I WANT MY JAR OF PISS.
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There, play us a sad song...
 
I gotta give Valve props, despite being me favorite gaming company, they always manage to impress me, coming up with new and more complicated ways to fail.
 
I prefer the old Achievement system. With that you felt like you had accomplished something when you unlock a weapon... no you just get lucky!!!!
 
I love this system.

For someone who hasn't played for ages I now have an incentive to play because I can play any class I like and unlock weapons for other classes instead of having to grind up on that class to get unlockables.
 
I've been playing it for a few hours. Still havn't gotten anything, and not to mention I'm annoyed at the people who have almost everything, and I can't get anything.
 
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