The Official Fred Appreciation Thread

[Apocalypse89]

At first I thought that Robert had walked into a trap that he had forgotten about...but yeah, it was definitely set up by the zombie things.

1. The hole in the window behind Fred looks like it was made so that the trap could be easily accessed and monitored.

2. That big "leader" zombie seems considerably more intelligent than the other zombies...he might be smart enough to set up a trap.

3. They were mimicking the earlier trap that Robert had set up to catch the female.

4. Robert wouldn't move Fred away from the DVD store...the zombies moved him to f*ck with Robert and use him as bait.

Oh, and:

 

[Rico]

Haven't you guys read the book on which the movie was based on?

The vampires are smart. They are not zombies, they're vampires, they need human blood to live. They have a virus that feeds on human blood.

BTW I thought the book's ending was better than the movie's, but I can definitely see why they took it in a different direction since they pretty much marketed it as a horror-ish flick.

Fred was moved there by the vampire leader. He's smart in relation to the other vampires in the movie as can be seen throughout the entire flick.

Another thing that should tell you the vampires are smart is the fact that when they break into Robert's house, they can see that one vampire tearing at the roof so that more can come in through the hole he made.

 

[jack_blits]

wot the booked called sumfin like "Last Man on earth ent it"???

 

[Eejit]

Haven't you guys read the book on which the movie was based on?

The vampires are smart. They are not zombies, they're vampires, they need human blood to live. They have a virus that feeds on human blood.

They changed that in the film, they aren't meant to be vampires.

 

[Rico]

I'm not sure where you get the idea they aren't vampires. The part in the movie where Robert gets attacked by one you can clearly see the leader guy bite his neck and try to suck his blood. What exactly do you think they're doing around his house every night?

I don't see how people say they're not vamps but somehow they're zombies. How are they zombies exactly?

It's a movie based (albeit loosely) on the book. Robert thinks they're vampires in the book, then finds out about the virus thing. Nevertheless, the entire theme is that for all intents and purposes they're modern day vampires.

 

[ailevation]

In the movie nobody says that they're vampires or zombies,they are infected people, they are infected by the British lady's supposed 'cure' for cancer. The actions and behavior that we observe from them are vampire-like or zombie-like or a little bit of both. In the book Neville HAS to stake them in the heart to kill them, or sunlight kills them and garlic keeps them away. They are the stereotypical vampire. In the film Neville uses no garlic against the infected, he doesn't need to aim for the heart for a sure kill. He perforates them with his M4, blows them up and they happen to be sensitive to UV.

 

[The Monkey]

I have a question: Why are humans and dogs the only animals that are infected? Why not the deers, lions etc. that we see infected?

 

[ailevation]

Wow, great observation. That is a really good point.

I guess if they were, there probably wouldn't be a cool intro hunting scene

 

[Que-Ever]

Lions ate the deers -> dogs ate the lions

 

[Krynn72]

Lions ate the deers -> dogs ate the lions

God eats the dogs -> God creates dinosaurs -> God destroys dinosaurs -> God creates man -> man destroys god -> man creates dinosaurs -> dinosaurs eat man -> Women inherit the earth.

 

[Que-Ever]

That... is one big pile of shit.

 

[Eejit]

They're not meant to be vampires, they just act a bit like them.

Don't try to understand why some animals are affected and some aren't. It's like how the dogs aren't affected by the airborne version.

 

[Rico]

In the book Neville HAS to stake them in the heart to kill them, or sunlight kills them and garlic keeps them away

You should reread the last 3/4 of the book, Neville explains how all those things fit in with the virus explanation.

Spoiler

He says that any kind of impalement will work, so long as it allows for air to enter the body, thus exposing tthe virus to air. When the virus is exposed to air it essentially cannibalizes the host, turning them to dust.

The whole thing is that everyone just initially thinks they're vampires, and essentially, they are. What happened is that the mythos of the vampire was originated from a real rare disease that Neville speculates has been around for a while, but not widely known. Just like some legends have a basis on fact, he believes that the vamp mythology may be based on the disease, and thus, the ways to deal with vampires is actually how to deal with the infected.

In the book they never really explain how the virus came to be, it just is.

 

[TwwIX]

I stopped caring when the dog died.
The movie was great until it turned into a plot filled Christian propaganda cheese fest.They actually changed the ending and some of the plot as well.
If you watch the trailers you can see Neville surrounded by the Infected and he yells "You don't have to do this.I can save you"
That's what you get when you listen to your shitty test audience.
This same thing happened to Invasion of The Body Snatchers remake "The Invasion".
I ****ing hate happy endings.

 

[The Monkey]

I just saw it. Pretty damn good, 8.5/10.

How the hell did Fred move his head, though?

There was also an alternative ending:

The tone of the ending of the film was altered dramatically before the film's release, with the majority of the changes made to the standoff between Neville and the infected in his laboratory. Janek Sirrs recounts the original ending starting with the standoff, "At that point, Neville's - and the audience's - assumptions about the nature of these creatures are shown to be incorrect. We see that they have actually retained some of their humanity. There is a very important moment between the alpha male and Neville." David Schaub stated, "Then, when Neville finally turns the alpha female over to the alpha male, there is this little love moment between the two of them." The infected then retrieve the captured female and spare Neville's life. The original final shot follows Neville, Anna, and the boy as they cross the remnants of the George Washington Bridge in hopes of finding other survivors.

I don't know which is best, this one or the one that made it to the movie.

Also, lions in New York, wtf? They probably escaped from a zoo, but still...

 

[Tollbooth Willie]

That ending sounds much better than the one we got.

 

[Direwolf]

That ending seems to make more sense given the rest of the movie, since it felt very much like they were setting it up so they could eventually point out that not all the vampires are completely animalistic. I still wouldn't have been completely happy with the sudden introduction of the woman and boy, as it seemed very quick and it seems set up to make you suspicious of them. But they never really resolve that tension.

 

[evil^milk]

I have a question: Why are humans and dogs the only animals that are infected? Why not the deers, lions etc. that we see infected?

They're probably coming from somewhere else, running from the infected or something. Where's the setting at, anyway? Wouldn't really make sense if they're in a place with little to no wildlife.

Donno, tbh.

 

[Eejit]

I thought New York had at least one zoo. Isn't there one in central park?

 

[Emporius]

I just saw it. Pretty damn good, 8.5/10.

How the hell did Fred move his head, though?

There was also an alternative ending:

I don't know which is best, this one or the one that made it to the movie.

Well when I saw it I assumed it was a hallucination of Neville's, or more unlikely the infected moved it to grab his attention.

That ending sounds much better than the rather forced and cliched ending we got.

 

[Deleted member 56031]

That other ending sounds much better than the one that got in the final cut.

 

[The Monkey]

God dammit Fred, I was saving that bacon!

 

[TheDude]

fuck Fred. There I said it.

 

[Adabiviak]

Good movie, just saw it. Fred's a traitor, but he did give Will the courage to talk to the girl.