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The world’s first “test-tube” meat, a hamburger made from a cow’s stem cells, will be produced this fall, Dutch scientist Mark Post told a major science conference on Sunday.
Post’s aim is to invent an efficient way to produce skeletal muscle tissue in a laboratory that exactly mimics meat, and eventually replace the entire meat-animal industry.
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Post, chair of physiology at Maastricht University in the Netherlands, said his project is funded with 250,000 euros from an anonymous private investor motivated by “care for the environment, food for the world, and interest in life-transforming technologies.”
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Both scientists said no companies in the existing meat industry have expressed interest.
I'm not sure, but I think you just offended the vast majority of the human race.
But anyway, AFAIK, ever since 1910, meat has been way cheaper than other protein alternatives. Without factory meat, a proportion of the population, even in developed countries, will not receive enough nutrition -- and perhaps may starve. I'm pretty certain that starvation and malnutrition of human beings should be avoided as well.
Is there no way to grow vat meat that has its own immune system?
We can't survive without meat? How do you suppose all the vegetarians/vegans of the world have survived?
Excellent, that's exactly what I was going for.
I'm sorry, but that sounds like bullshit. We can't survive without meat? How do you suppose all the vegetarians/vegans of the world have survived?
We're humans, man. We're actually designed so that we can eat meat, it's an important source of protein. Some people might not like it but short of attempting to force the rest of the population to be veggies, there are always going to be issues surrounding the way we consume meat.
"Agricultural products"? F*ck off, they are a living organism no matter which way you look at.
Well, what I mean to say is that we have evolved as meat eaters. I know that people CAN get by without eating meat but it's an extremely efficient source of particular nutrients. Your solutions may seem simple to you but I don't think they are as simple to the wider meat consuming society. The whole 'you want it, you kill it yourself thing' is pretty abstract in my opinion.But humans also have the intellectual capacity to evolve. We're "designed to eat meat"? Then how do we get by equally as well, if not better off in some cases, by not eating meat?
I was lucky to avoid Vegenazis so far. Well, there's a first time for everything.
Meat is an essential source of protein in developing countries. Sure, you can sit in your comfy armchair, eating delicious tofu, sipping latte with soya milk and argue how inhumane and unethical it is to eat meat, but really, that only makes you an inconsiderate ass of jacks. The impoverished milions across the world need meat to survive and avoid malnutrition and hunger. It's either animal meat or starvation. Sure, you can argue about tofu and soya and a variety of other plant-based replacements for animal protein, but you forget that these are luxury goods. And that makes you a Vegenazi.
guys, stern posted two pictures of foreign people with vegetables, i think he is being sarcastic!!!!!!!!!!!
I don't see why we don't just start eating human meat. Grow some humans specifically for eating, and then we've solved everyone's problem.
I was lucky to avoid Vegenazis so far. Well, there's a first time for everything.
Meat is an essential source of protein in developing countries. Sure, you can sit in your comfy armchair, eating delicious tofu, sipping latte with soya milk and argue how inhumane and unethical it is to eat meat, but really, that only makes you an inconsiderate ass of jacks. The impoverished milions across the world need meat to survive and avoid malnutrition and hunger. It's either animal meat or starvation. Sure, you can argue about tofu and soya and a variety of other plant-based replacements for animal protein, but you forget that these are luxury goods. And that makes you a Vegenazi.
I'm thoroughly enjoying JUL3's completely rational and respectable posts over here.
you can argue about tofu and soya and a variety of other plant-based replacements for animal protein, but you forget that these are luxury goods.
It's not the meat that's the problem, it's the scale on which we want it and how we're producing it that causes the issue.
I can always count on you to say something stupid.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5005952
average consumption by average families. but thanks again for contributing absolutely nothing to this thread. keep on keeping on troll dude
JUL3 said:Oh aren't you all high and mighty? Shut up.
my post was actually about how you are, once again, posting something completely irrelevant to what was being debated in an effort to annoy somebody
Tagaziel was saying that being vegan is a luxury not available to many poor people around the world because they do not have the ability to sustain such diets, and that JUL3's bizarre rants are therefore presumptuous and unfounded. how the fact that some countries eat less meat, eggs and dairy on average than others has absolutely nothing to do with that.
if we can put meat into such massive mass-production why can't we do the same with tofu?
Crudely put But this does raise a point. Tofu isn't in a production like meat is because there's not as much demand for it.Cos tofu is gross, that's why.
the irony is killing me
It may annoy you, Jul3 but most people just aren't vegetarian/vegan and well, they don't want to be either. They want meat. Pure and simps.
They want it fast, they want it efficient and a lot want it as ethically produced as is possible so they can get their proteins and not feel as bad that
an animal died for their dietary needs as they would if it was put through hell before it ended up on their plate. That and they like the taste.