The true meaning of the Christmas, you've forgot ?

[Dhoco X]

This date we commemorate the birth of Jesus, our savior.

But have a lot of people who don't think like this.

This is a day to celebrate and do good things to the others peoples ! The majority of the people thinks that is a day to gain gifts ONLY !

Santa's ?

WTF is going on ??? A nice coca-cola-american-frodo-capitalist symbol is now the only meaning of the Christmas ??? Give us a break, it's killing us all ! Imagine... you ask to a litle child:

- "What is Christmas day ?"

And he answer:

- "Oh, it's the santa's day ! We buy a lot of things, waste our money and turn on the cars alarm !"

I'm sick of these people who don't even know what this day means. :flame:

Think very much about this guys ! This day is comming, hope you will do something useful... :cheers:

 

[Maxi]

I do know "the true meaning of christmas", just that that ain't my christmas, as i do not know if there is a god, nor will i ever know.

 

[poseyjmac]

someday you might know

 

[JonTheCanuck]

i know the true meaning of christmas, and yes i celebrate it that way. It does bother me that its turning into one big commercial event and companies find a way to cash in on peoples beliefs. But i also enjoy watching christmas commercials just because it reminds me of this time of year from when i was a little toddler. Its my favourite day of the year, always has been, always will be, but ya, the main idea behind CHRISTmas is being forgotten.

 

[Kadayi]

Can I still be my Evil self or do I have to be good for the month?

 

[SidewinderX]

Originally posted by Dhoco X
This date we commemorate the birth of Jesus, our savior.

Let's becareful here... we have a wide range of beliefs here


/me goes back into my jewish corner.

 

[Maxi]

Originally posted by poseyjmac
someday you might know

Someday I might, just that im not a religious man, never have been, never will. I just find the whole "concept" of god a little to far fetched.

 

[dis]

Did any of you guys know that Jesus wasn't even born in December? During the Roman Empire, Christians moved the celebration of Christmas to December to compete with the long, festive, Roman holiday Saturnalia. Kinda crazy, isn't it? If I remember correctly, Jesus was really born in June or July or something like that. But yea, Christmas has turned into more of a secular "show thanks/buy gifts" kind of holiday. No one really celebrates the birth of Christ.

 

[Mr. Pink]

baby jesus

 

[Maxi]

I think posey found himself a new account, or maybe its Gangs(some might know whom im talking about).

 

[Maskirovka]

Originally posted by poseyjmac
someday you might know

LOL i almost posted about how you were probably religious in the other thread...and that religious people tend to see the world in black and white like you do.

so i guess you're either religious and conditioned to see the world in black and white or you're just somehow uh...not seeing "all the angles" like you said you are.

your angles are 0 and 180

 

[Direwolf]

Christmas (Or Channukah or whatever) is a day to be happy and good to those around you. If thats all you do then it doesn't matter what you believe.:cheers:

 

[dfc05]

Originally posted by Dhoco X
This is a day to celebrate and do good things to the others peoples ! The majority of the people thinks that is a day to gain gifts ONLY !

Think very much about this guys ! This day is comming, hope you will do something useful... :cheers:

:cheers: yuppy-doopers :cheese:

it's nice to take a step back from commercialism and think about what Christmas was meant to celebrate. so go watch charlie brown christmas and forget about getting a pretty aluminum christmas tree and lots of presents and expensive real estate and maybe spend a little time thinking about the true idea behind Christmas, yay.

 

[Arno]

I'm aware of the origins of Christmas, but I'm not religious. I see Christmas as a nice opportunity for everyone to take a break from work and spend some quality time with family and friends. I also enjoy the whole atmosphere of Christmas: all the pretty lights on the streets, decorating the tree, the songs, all the typical Christmas movies on TV, etc. Makes me happy.

 

[Mr. Pink]

well christmans is about baby jesus if you celebrate christman you are celebrating jesus

so yes you are religious

 

[dfc05]

ah well no not really; you can celebrate the day but not the religious part behind it. you could just set aside a period of time to, like Arno said, just appreciate the whole holiday spirit. which is good because it is nice to participate in all the holiday stuff regardless of whether or not you're religious. so either way, it's all good .

 

[Lucifer Crass]

The true meaning of christmas is to boost stock of a capitalist society. During winter months, back in 1800's the economy would go down during winter becuase no one wanted to leave there houses because of snow etc. so no one bought as much during the winter months and this would cause a drop that would bring the death of many businesses. So useing religion some genious thaught up a way to keep the economy flowing even in the winter days. it would be only one day but people would spend so much money thats all businesses need to survive until summer again. Birthdays are also to boost economy. So yeah............true meaning of christmas

 

[AmishSlayer]

I don't celebrate it as Jesus' birth. I don't know what to make of it...but when Xmas is coming around...everything is cool.

Driving around in the snow goes from being somewhat of a hassle (due to other stupid drivers..I myself love to pull my e-brake ) to nice and relaxing somehow.

Just sitting around talking with family or friends while there's snow falling lightly outside without a care in the world is great.

I find myself being nostalgic in watching old Xmas specials from early 90's and not fastforwarding through commercials just to remember all the old xmas commercials (I like the one with cool spot and the fire truck toy ).

There are so many other things about Xmas season I could say...but to sum it up...it seems like the world is always so tense and serious. When Xmas season is here...the world (my world) seems to just slacken a little bit to a comfortable month's vacation of no worries and good times.

I don't celebrate xmas religiously about jesus and such, I don't just celebrate it for presents....I celebrate it for the feeling I get during the season.

 

[GhostValkyrie]

Originally posted by dis
No one really celebrates the birth of Christ.

I do.

 

[OCybrManO]

Christmas was a pagan holiday that was later renamed and declared to be the birthday of Jesus by the Romans. Early Chirstians didn't want to participate because the date was off by several months (it was closer to the middle of the year, maybe October at the very latest) and the celebration was sacrilegious.

I fail to see how celebrating a holiday that actually has nothing to do with Christianity (other than the name) makes anyone religious. Please explain.

Is it all in the name? What if your name is Christopher. Does that mean you have to be a Christian?
No.

If you celebrate Halloween, watch movies/play games that depict sins, or hang out with atheists does that mean you don't believe in God?
No... and those aren't exaggerations. They are on the same level as saying that you are Christian if you participate in Christmas-related activities.

... and I think the mods should deal with people that go around trying force their religion on everyone else. You may be right. You may be wrong. Either way, my religion is my choice.



"The true meaning of christmas is to boost stock of a capitalist society. During winter months, back in 1800's the economy would go down during winter becuase no one wanted to leave there houses because of snow etc. so no one bought as much during the winter months and this would cause a drop that would bring the death of many businesses. So useing religion some genious thaught up a way to keep the economy flowing even in the winter days. it would be only one day but people would spend so much money thats all businesses need to survive until summer again."

Well, nice theory, but not very accurate... seeing as Christmas has been around for nearly 1400 years.
What's a difference of 12 centuries anyway?

 

[Lil' Timmy]

Originally posted by OCybrManO
Christmas was a pagan holiday
[words]
What's a difference of 12 centuries anyway?

sounds like someone is getting coal in their stockings this christmas...

 

[OCybrManO]

Originally posted by Lil' Timmy
sounds like someone is getting coal in their stockings this christmas...

Your pagan rituals, your lying to children about Santa and giving them false hope, and your materialist attitude make me sick...


j/k

 

[Dedalus]

i say balls to christmas. about 2% of the world's population actually give a toss about what it means. obviously it's just a big cash cow.

so i say balls, just wake up christmas day and sing "happy birthday to you, happy birthday to you, happy birthday jesus let's have a pint on you" and then carry on whatever you were doing.

 

[Lil' Timmy]

Originally posted by OCybrManO
Your pagan rituals, your lying to children about Santa and giving them false hope, and your materialist attitude make me sick...


j/k

so wait, are you coming on to me?

 

[Lil' Timmy]

Originally posted by Dedalus
i say balls to christmas. about 2% of the world's population actually give a toss about what it means. obviously it's just a big cash cow.

so i say balls, just wake up christmas day and sing "happy birthday to you, happy birthday to you, happy birthday jesus let's have a pint on you" and then carry on whatever you were doing.

that's the most british post i've ever read.

 

[OCybrManO]

I think I'll celebrate my birthday (somewhere in October) on Christmas Day, instead.

If everyone thinks that's as accurate as they should be with Jesus's birthday then it's good enough for me, too.

 

[Dedalus]

Lil' Timmy, i'm not sure if i should take that as an insult....

 

[Lil' Timmy]

Originally posted by Dedalus
Lil' Timmy, i'm not sure if i should take that as an insult....

not particularly. i just found the tone, temperament, and verbage to be quintessentially british

 

[dfc05]

Originally posted by OCybrManO
I think I'll celebrate my birthday (somewhere in October) on Christmas Day, instead.

If everyone thinks that's as accurate as they should be with Jesus's birthday then it's good enough for me, too.

So what if it's not on the exact day. It doesn't even really matter what the exact day was seeing as it was so long ago that it'd be hard to get it accurate anyways. Besides, lots of holidays are celebrated on a day that isn't the exact day of whatever it's commemorating. Take Thanksgiving for example-- we don't celebrate that on the exact day of the actual first Thanksgiving but nobody makes a big deal about that (although you could actually say that we've also lost the true meaning of Thanksgiving and made that, too, into a commercial event about stuffing yourself with food and parading giant balloons down the road...). It's not about the date, it's about what happened and remembering what happened and celebrating that. And about birthdays--I really don't see much value in the actual date of that either. So it's the day you were born, so what; it's about acknowledging your existence and that's what you're celebrating--life.
And about your earlier post about pagan influences in celebrating Christmas: true, things like the Christmas tree did get assimilated from the Vikings-- but we're not spending Christmas celebrating the tree (hopefully...?). The holiday was not built around a tree; we're not celebrating a tree; it makes no difference if the tree is there or not. If you look past the tree, past the presents, then maybe you can see the true essence of the holiday and that's all that matters.

 

[Letters]

Originally posted by Mr. Pink


well christmans is about baby jesus if you celebrate christman you are celebrating jesus

so yes you are religious

No.

 

[razorblade kiss]

CHRISTMAS = GIFTS AND MONEY BOTH OF WHICH I NEED SO SHUT UP. YOU LOVE GETTING GIFTS TOO. (turns off caps lock). I like to give gifts too. So you cant totally flame me now.

 

[Lucifer Crass]

Originally posted by razorblade kiss
CHRISTMAS = GIFTS AND MONEY BOTH OF WHICH I NEED SO SHUT UP. YOU LOVE GETTING GIFTS TOO. (turns off caps lock). I like to give gifts too. So you cant totally flame me now.

FU*K U, FU*K UR FAMILY,FU*K UR MONEY,FU*K UR PRESENTS!!!

j/k
Nowdays it has little meaning but its 2weeks off so I can't complain!

 

[OCybrManO]

Thanksgiving days in the 1700s were initially days of fasting (not feasting) and prayer. How it made a complete turnabout I have no idea. Was it a typo?

I wasn't saying that holidays should be on the exact day of the event they celebrate. After a while many people forget when it actually happened and just assume the holiday's date is correct. Come to think of it... let them forget. If they can't do the research it's their fault.

 

[A2597]

Originally posted by Dhoco X
This date we commemorate the birth of Jesus, our savior.

But have a lot of people who don't think like this.

This is a day to celebrate and do good things to the others peoples ! The majority of the people thinks that is a day to gain gifts ONLY !

Santa's ?

WTF is going on ??? A nice coca-cola-american-frodo-capitalist symbol is now the only meaning of the Christmas ??? Give us a break, it's killing us all ! Imagine... you ask to a litle child:

- "What is Christmas day ?"

And he answer:

- "Oh, it's the santa's day ! We buy a lot of things, waste our money and turn on the cars alarm !"

I'm sick of these people who don't even know what this day means. :flame:

Think very much about this guys ! This day is comming, hope you will do something useful... :cheers:

Glad I'm not the only one that feels this way...

 

[chu]

my family isnt celebrating xmas. everyone is in debt.

I hate holdiays anyways. i'd be happy if i never had to celebrate another bday, xmas, or whatever.

 

[CyberSh33p]

comically poor engrish

as for the jesus bit, yes, christmas is the birth of jesus, but the savior bit is subjective. Christmas is stupidly enough pretty secular now, and meanings change. so lets rename chirstmas santa day and get on with our lives.

 

[CrazyHarij]

I spend alot of thoughts on presents and gifts and getting the house in a nice x-mas mood, but I always think about and celebrate the original meaning.

I think it'd be nice on this forum if christians don't rub their belief in everyones face and non-believers don't talk jack about christianity.

 

[Direwolf]

*Dives at Harij and tries to wrestle him down and make him convert*

 

[Varg|Hund]

I don't celebrate jesus on christmas, I just think of it as a day to hang out with friends and family and be in a generally christmas-y mood and eat alot and drink even more and watch Donald Duck on the TV :cheers:

That's what christmas is for me =)

 

[A2597]

Originally posted by CrazyHarij

I think it'd be nice on this forum if christians don't rub their belief in everyones face and non-believers don't talk jack about christianity.

If someone needs to hear it, I'll tell them.
If someone ask me about it, I'll tell them all they want. There is no "forcing" a religion on someone, either they will listen or not. repeating yourself to someone that doesn't want any part of it is pointless.

I don't see anything wrong with this topic though, since it is a historical fact that christmas is a celebration of Christ's birth. He's just exasperated that alot of people don't even know the reason for the season.