The US Democratic Party is now Communist!

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Nickcpus

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If you don't believe me go to the web sites and compare core principles? Who say’s the Cold War is over, maybe we just changed the rules. Funny thing is they knew it was going to happen.

Long live Mother Russia and Long Live America

The Democratic Party
http://www.democrats.org/platform/index.html

Socialist Party USA
http://sp-usa.org/

Communist Party of the USA
http://www.cpusa.org/article/static/511/#question6

Directory of US Political Parties
http://www.politics1.com/parties.htm

Cleon Skoussen’s Communist Agenda
http://www.geoffmetcalf.com/416.html
 
Ha, good one. Then you shuld see the swedish Left-party. Now there's some commnists! And they got 10% of the votes too :|. Anywho, the democrats are at the most Liberate, not communists.
 
If Marx was right, Commies are ok, just as long as we spend some good time in the Socialist epoch.
 
I suggest you find a better way to title your threads in the future.

but, for the record, look at the democratic and republican table of contents for thier platforms. Nearly identical.
 
SidewinderX said:
I suggest you find a better way to title your threads in the future.

but, for the record, look at the democratic and republican table of contents for thier platforms. Nearly identical.
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Like my father’s father said “America will destroy itself from the inside”. The seed of socialism has already been planted and it’s only a matter of time before America converts to communisms. Bush will soon be out of office and our newly elected Democratic President will continue with the agenda. Its only matter of time.

Current communist goals.

1.U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.

Self-evident. The Communist nations wanted to buy time while they were in the process of building their nuclear arsenals, the arsenals with which they could guarantee mutually assured destruction and keep the west at bay.

2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.

Communist nations PLUNDER, they do not produce. Ergo, they must always conquer or enslave populations that produce. The catch is that you cannot plunder what you destroy, so the goal is to preserve that which you intend to plunder. So, the idea used to be that they'd try to take the US intact, by getting us to capitulate. Well, that's no longer the policy of the Soviet Union. It is revealed that they intend to pound us into dust if we engage...


3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament by the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.


4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.

That's exactly what Bill Clinton did when he traded our highly classified nuclear secrets for campaign contributions.

5. Extension of long-term goals to Russia and Soviet satellites.


6. Provide American aid to all nations regardless of communist denomination.

Can you say "IMF, World Bank and Redistribution of wealth, boys and girls?" As in point 2, above. Bill Clinton arranged for the transfer of 243 billion (yes, Billion) dollars to the Soviet Union - purportedly to aid them in creating a free-market infrastructure. Well, Boris Yeltsin immediately siphoned off 22 billion dollars to a personal account in the Cayman islands. The other 221 billion dollars? Well, instead of going into that "free market infrastructure", it went in somewhere else. You see, the Soviets (yes, it's still the Soviet Union, no matter who says different - see point #10) realized that a conventional military gets cranky when it doesn't get to eat. With the economic difficulties the Soviet Union experienced, they didn't want to take the chance that an increased conventional military might revolt if it didn't get paid. So, instead, they put that 221 billion dollars into a new, mobile ICBM delivery system called the "Topol-M", which has decoys and countermeasures which enable it to "burn through" any missile defense that exists in the entire world. The Topol-M is pointed directly at you and I here in America, courtesy of your tax dollars.

7. Grant recognition of Red China. Admission of Red China to the U.N..

Done deal.

8. Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khrushchev's promise in 1955 to settle the Germany question by free elections under supervision of the U.N.

9. Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the U.S. has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are progress.

10. Allow all Soviet satellites individual representation in the U.N.

At the so-called "breakup" of the Soviet Union, what we accomplished is the acquisition of individual votes in the UN - for each of the satellite nations that "formerly" comprised the CCCP. We say "formerly" because the same old hard-liners, the communists are in control of the Soviet Union once again. Nothing has really changed. In the book "New Lies for Old", it is quite clear that the whole "failure" and "breakup" of the Soviet Union - was a scam, much as the supposed "Sino-Soviet split" was. Peristroika and Glasnost are shams.

11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that be set up as a one-world government with its own independent Armed Forces.

Some Communist leaders believe the world can be taken over as easily by the U.N. as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo. Well, reality is a bit different. The UN succeeded in destroying the free-market resistance in the Congo and allowing the communists to take control. Of course, this agenda point was written prior to 1961.

12. Resist any attempt to outlaw communist party.

Well, duh! Now, communist "thought" (actually FEELING, if you understand Michael Savage) is protected under the first amendment as "free speech", while the term "sedition" has almost been totally removed from the American lexicon. Consider that the NLG (National Lawyer's Guild) is a communist front organization that has been busily infiltrating the ABA for years and that they've locked out any chance that anyone will be prosecuted for sedition or treason, using the first amendment as an argument even though the first amendment doesn't give license to people to yell "fire!" in a crowded theater. Yes, the communists have sewn up the judiciary as well so that the communists can subvert any and all institutions/organizations with impunity.

13. Do away with all loyalty oaths.

Anyone remember the Ninth Circuit court's recent reaffirmation of their ruling to keep the pledge of allegiance out of schools?

14. Continue giving Russia access to the U.S. patent office.

Including the plans to our H-Bomb? Anyone remember the Rosenbergs?

15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.

Duh! The Democratic Party would not stop now if a bus ran them down.


16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.

Pledge of Allegiance, court rulings, Separation of Churh and Sate

17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers association. Put the party line in textbooks.

The NEA is currently backing teachers (as you may have heard on talk radio or read on the internet this last week of 2/28/2003) who attack the CHILDREN of serving National Guard personnel over the impending war in Iraq and who wear buttons that say that President Bush "isn't my president". Is that "in your face" enough for you?
... More commentary to be added at a later date...

18. Gain control of all student newspapers.

19. Use student riots to foment public protest against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.

20. Infiltrate the press. Gain control book-review assignments, editorial writing, policymaking positions.

21. Gain control of key positions at radio, TV and motion pictures.

22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression.

An American communist cells was told to "eliminate all good sculpture from party buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms."

23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. "Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art."
24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.

25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio and TV.

26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."

27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a "religious crutch."

28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the grounds that violates principles of "separate separation of church and state."

29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis."

30. Discredit the American founding fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man."

31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage teachings of American history on the ground that was only a minor part of the "the big picture." Give more emphasis to Russia history since the Communist takeover.

32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture --education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.

33. Eliminate all laws or procedures which interfere with the operation of the communist apparatus.

34. Eliminate the House committee on un-American activities.

35. Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI.

Working on it, the new Homeland Security.

36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.

Done deal.

37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.



30. Transfers of the power of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but a psychiatrist can understand or treat.

Have noticed how much power DSS has these days?

39. To dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose communist goals.

40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.

1960’s No Fault Divorce law, along with various forms of influence.

41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents.
Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.


42. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special-interest groups should rise up and use "united force" to solve economic, political or social problems.

Done Deal, special interest groups and world opinion

43. Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government.

44. Internationalize the Panama Canal.

Done Deal.

45. Repeal the Connally Reservation so the U.S. cannot prevent the world court from seizing jurisdiction over domestic problems. Give the world court jurisdiction over nations and individuals alike.

Working on it.
 
Maybe I'll ocmment on you whole post some other time, or maybe someone else will, but I suggest you stop reading propaganda and learn a bit about politics before posting again in the politics forum.

One thing you obviously don't know anything about is Communism... Before making a post saying the US is communist, It might be a good idea to read about what communism is. I'll give you a hint, the USSR wasn't a true communist nation.
 
Hillary Clinton 08'

Potentally the First Women President

Rudolph Giuliani 08'

Potentally the First Italian President


I figure the Clinton's can really **** us over. With William as Secretary General and Hillary as President.
 
HunterSeeker said:
Whats wrong with communism?
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I ask the same. Perhaps you don't want them to rule, but you sound like it would be a catastrophe, like if a facist party would come to power. That would be a true carastrophe.
 
this Anti-Clinton stuff reminds me alot of the Anti-Kennedy stuff, different families, same "we hate 'em" attitude...

And theres no chance the US will go communist, thanks to the cold war, the public/governmental memory has been burnt into permanently rejecting anything remotely communistic in nature.
Saying the US would turn communist is akin to saying it would turn "terrorist"
 
I agree, the United States will never become a communist state. Something much worse.

As for the Clinton's. I've got no problem with them as a family. I just dont want them in the two seats of power I earlier referred too.
 
Nickcpus said:
Bush will soon be out of office and our newly elected Democratic President will continue with the agenda. Its only matter of time.
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Did I miss something? our newly elected democratic president?
 
this Anti-Clinton stuff reminds me alot of the Anti-Kennedy stuff, different families, same "we hate 'em" attitude...
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Or the same Anti- Bush stuff...

I'm gonna love the day his bro runs for President.
 
HunterSeeker said:
Whats wrong with communism?
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Only the fact that one of its basic principles (the idea that everyone is equal) is a horrible fallacy.
 
He_Who_Is_Steve said:
Only the fact that one of its basic principles (the idea that everyone is equal) is a horrible fallacy.
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I'm not sure if you were kidding, but there is truth to that. Why should the lazy person be rewarded the same as the hard worker?
 
seinfeldrules said:
I'm not sure if you were kidding, but there is truth to that. Why should the lazy person be rewarded the same as the hard worker?
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EDIT: Retracted. Horrible, awful, dispicable statement.

Are you agreeing with me? My brain isn't working right and I'm finding it hard to read that sentence.

And no, I wasn't kidding.
 
seinfeldrules said:
I'm not sure if you were kidding, but there is truth to that. Why should the lazy person be rewarded the same as the hard worker?
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No lazy person gets nothing, but all who work get the same.. For example. A ceo works from 9 to 5 and a construction worker works from 9 to 5. The amount of work they would do is equal or maybe the the construction worker works more. they would get equal pay. now in capitalism you get payed not by the amount of work you do, but how much value you're work is, or how much moeny your work earnes the company. Now obviously the coa can make the company profits of hundreds of million dollars, but the construction worker doesn't, maybe a few thousand dollar. Now the communist system deosn't really inspire great work efficiiency, or willingness. i mean why would the CEO try hard at school and kater in his work if his rewards are equal. Simply kapitalism plays on our grediness, ambitions, selfisness, and in the end with some social laws it works, but pure kapitalism is as bad as communism. Yes the pure kapitaslist nation will get more money but only a few will profit.

Now for the second thing I wanted to say. Sooooo :naughty: Seinfeld compared to this guy you seem like a leftwinger, how does it feel to be on the left for once.

Third thing, well this thread is good and all, but it maybe wiser to close it before Cpt.Stern gets notice of it, cause then WWIII might brake out, No seriously I'm not kidding :sniper: :sniper: :eek:

(edit: Oh yeah and Nickpus, :p :dozey: :LOL: :LOL: :rolling: , if just all people on the earth were as stupid as you I would be king, and use you all as slaves, and the funny thing is you would support me of your free will by the likes of it, i mean have you been in the Hitler Jugen or something to be brainwashed like that.)
 
wow, this kid has a lot to learn

1. Everywhere communism goes, a ton of people die

2. Americans will never turn communist because we like spending money

3. communism does not work

4. where is this kid from anyway? if hes in america, he must really not pay attention much
 
Eg. said:
wow, this kid has a lot to learn

1. Everywhere communism goes, a ton of people die

2. Americans will never turn communist because we like spending money

3. communism does not work

4. where is this kid from anyway? if hes in america, he must really not pay attention much
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1. Everywhere communism goes, a ton of people die
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Well the same can be said of the US :p ;) :angel:

Show me one , only one true communistic country in the world, and I don't mean a country that just calls itself communist, cause that doesn't mean much, I mean, the US calls itsef democratic but we all know it's not true. No, I'm talking here about a true communist country.
 
If communism, like China's communism seeks to prevent my internet access and restrict me from so many of the freedoms I enjoy in the states, then I will never allow myself to live under a communist rule.
 
A ceo works from 9 to 5 and a construction worker works from 9 to 5. The amount of work they would do is equal or maybe the the construction worker works more.
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What happens when construction workers A and B both show up at work. Worker A works diligently from 9-5 putting out 105% effort. Worker B slacks a little, takes a few unneeded breaks, knowing there is nothing extra in it for him and also works 9-5. Is that fair, as communism claims? Whose job is it to decide who works hard enough? Seems like a lot of unneeded work. Why would anyone want to become a doctor, lawyer, engineer etc.?

Sooooo Seinfeld compared to this guy you seem like a leftwinger, how does it feel to be on the left for once.
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Who dares to challenge me! :flame: :flame: :flame: :flame:

:p

PS. In North Korea they just proclaimed that you must attend a barber shop twice a month. Hair cannot reach more than 2 inches in length. :afro:
 
PS. In North Korea they just proclaimed that you must attend a barber shop twice a month. Hair cannot reach more than 2 inches in length.
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Cause then you'll be a hippy! And even Communists don't like hippies!

LOL. Just kidding.

But seriously, nobody likes hippies.

Kidding again! :E
 
So everyone agrees what I wrote is crazy as hell, I think so at least. That’s the beauty behind this master plan. Where is the best place to hide something? Out in the open, in plain view where every one can see it. Which is why this plan was released to the American Government. Sure it caused a bunch of commotion back then, but today everyone writes it off as crazy.

No your right, the US Democratic Party is not Communist its democratic socialist. Nothing more than a vehicle to facilitate the new world order. Not the old SSR Communism the true Marxists Communism. Think about it the entire world loves to hate the United States of America, they are the most arrogant corrupt nation on earth and to say Bush’s name is like a punch in face. Now on the other hand we have developed this political party known as the Democrats, which shares most of the world’s value. Be honest yourself wouldn’t you rather see the Democrats in office than Bush the idiot. Anyway this love hate relationship in America has deeply divided the country, it has made it oh so weak. America is now at the mercy of world economics, oh so now someone else can control the money.

It was really a simple plan… Hoover caught on to the movement, we simply allowed the agenda to leak out, knowing in would take years to fully implement. Now that the country is becoming ripe for the taking all of this old talk from their grandfathers has been forgotten and wrote off as non-sense. America is truly a sucker, the country will fall without a shot every being fired.

I know a lot of you say communist HELL NO! . Sorry my friends your only a few steps away from it now. Socialist, Communist not much difference when you think about it.
Besides true communism is equality for everyone, the people control the government, not the government controls the people.
 
Stalin and Mao are the top two murderers of all time. Stalin with roughly 42 million killed, and Mao with roughly 30.

As the two biggest communist experiments ever I tend to think anyone who knows anything about history can discount communism easily.

And don't tell me they weren't true communisms, the fact of the matter is that every time communism is attempted it winds up exactly the same. Just look at north korea or cuba.
 
Homer said:
And don't tell me they weren't true communisms, the fact of the matter is that every time communism is attempted it winds up exactly the same. Just look at north korea or cuba.
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Technically, they weren't, but in reality, there never can be; simply because of human traits such as greed.
It could never work in practice; but it always looks good on paper (unless you're openly greedy, in which case it won't :p)
 
bliink said:
Technically, they weren't, but in reality, there never can be; simply because of human traits such as greed.
It could never work in practice; but it always looks good on paper (unless you're openly greedy, in which case it won't :p)
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What does it look like on a paper? Letters? words? Paragraphs? Hehe
 
Raziaar said:
What does it look like on a paper? Letters? words? Paragraphs? Hehe
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har har... I was using figurative speech :rolleyes:
 
seinfeldrules said:
What happens when construction workers A and B both show up at work. Worker A works diligently from 9-5 putting out 105% effort. Worker B slacks a little, takes a few unneeded breaks, knowing there is nothing extra in it for him and also works 9-5. Is that fair, as communism claims? Whose job is it to decide who works hard enough? Seems like a lot of unneeded work. Why would anyone want to become a doctor, lawyer, engineer etc.?
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Just a point, but that happens in capitalism. Iv got a two mates who work the same job, get equal pay, but one's forever slacking. Why's that fair?

Also remember that because in capitilism the corporations should have far less money than they currently have, the average wage will be WAAAAY up - so you'll be on like £20 an hour (just a guess - maybe more I suppose, corporate bosses do have loadsa $$$ after all).

As for wanting to be a lawyer etc - well, for that much I'd be a lawyer, itd be an interesting job - let people who want to work in construction do that - and let them have the same wage. It'd be a case of do the job you want to do, rather than do the job you need to do to pay the rent.

In theory of course.
 
Has no-one else noticed this:

The NEA is currently backing teachers (as you may have heard on talk radio or read on the internet this last week of 2/28/2003) who attack
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Taken from point 17 of Nickcpus' groundbreaking magnum opus.
 
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