The US Democratic Party is now Communist!

[Scoobnfl]

Jc denton will save us from the illuminati and their offshoot mj-12!

quick grab onto something and try and link it to UFO's because that will discredit it.




the motives of those that link UFO to the Illuminati, CFR and Trilaterals attempt to do so in an effort to discredit the critics, or attention bringers to those groups.

look past the UFO dorks and their fantasies and read and inform yourself with information from:

Trilateral Commission's own publications, "The Triangle Paper. 8, The Crisis of Democracy." from 1975: "...the problems of governance in the United States today stems from an excess of democracy ... Needed, instead, is a greater degree of moderation in democracy ... Democracy is only one way of constituting authority, and it is not necessarily a universally applicable one. In many situations the claims of expertise, seniority, experience, and special talents may override the claims of democracy as a way of constituting authority."

--------------Jerry E. Smith
In the 1970's a student at MIT made a startling discovery. Taking the names of the members of the Boards of Directors of America's top 500 corporations he in-put those names into the MIT computer and had it delete duplicate names. To his surprise there were only 180-odd names on the final list! The shocked MIT student reportedly discovered that the average board member sat on 14 and a fraction boards. With a little work on your part you can make the same discovery. Anti-trust laws be damned, at the top it's all one big company.

globalization is the enemy, most on these boards seem to have disdain for the large companies that exploit their workers, work forces of developing nations, resources of developing nations etc...... We also seem to question how has it happened? Why can't we stop it? This is that how and why. The illuminati, CFR and the trilaterals.

----------JERRY E. SMITH--------

The CFR was created by diamond magnate Cecil Rhodes in 1921 as one of several organizations he founded with the (secretly) expressed intention of bringing about a one world government.

Rhodes created the Rhodes Scholarship program at about the same time to train likely candidates for being the future leaders of his Brave New World. Indeed, a plaque at Oxford University, home of the Rhodes Scholarships, proclaims one of the intentions of the program as returning the United States to the British Empire (!). Might not an American Rhodes Scholar, like say, Bill Clinton (who was one in the '60s), come out of the program with, at best, somewhat muddled loyalties?

does that not disturb anyone that is a citizen of the USA? not that clintoon was a rhodes scholar, but the intention of the program.




look underneath the answer for the answers to any questions.

 

[Nickcpus]

Now that I have your attention and the shock value has worn off, could someone please point out the fine line between socialism and communism?
True, the word communism has a stigma to it because of the past, while its precursor socialism is widely accepted across the land. Like it or not…Socialism and Communism are bed partners, while Capitalism is the complete opposite. Do you prefer the Marxist left to the Capitalist right or closer to that fine line?


Humor me I have a simple mind.

Socialism

1. Any of various theories or systems of social organization in which the means of producing and distributing goods is owned collectively or by a centralized government that often plans and controls the economy.

2.The stage in Marxist-Leninist theory intermediate between capitalism and communism, in which collective ownership of the economy under the dictatorship of the proletariat has not yet been successfully achieved.

3. a political theory advocating state ownership of industry 2: an economic system based on state ownership of capital (syn social economy (ant capitalism

Communism

1.A theoretical economic system characterized by the collective ownership of property and by the organization of labor for the common advantage of all members.

2. Communism

System of government in which the state plans and controls the economy and a single, often authoritarian party holds power, claiming to make progress toward a higher social order in which all goods are equally shared by the people.

b.The Marxist-Leninist version of Communist doctrine that advocates the overthrow of capitalism by the revolution of the proletariat.

(syn Bolshevism, collectivism, dictatorship, Marxism, socialism, state ownership, state socialism (ant capitalism

 

[Zerimski]

Can you stop copying and pasting extreme-right propogandha please, it's disconcerting.

FYI...http://www.semperliber.org/communistgoalsfulfilled.htm

 

[The Monkey]

Communism and socialism are the same thing. However, Communism and Social-democratism (?) are different things.

 

[Nickcpus]

Can you stop copying and pasting extreme-right propogandha please, it's disconcerting.

Fare enough, as I pointed out in my previous post #42 “Now that I have your attention and the shock value has worn off” I was actually referring to what you call extreme-right propaganda.

Interestingly enough the board is filled with copying and pasting, extreme propaganda and disconcerting material. Its either: religion kills, communism kills, america kills, my country donated more than yours, your religion is wrong, why do you hate my country, this leader is the best and so on.

But your taking offence to me coping and pasting the Communist Agenda and calling it disconcerting, sounds more like censorship. I can understand if I was harassing, abusing or even threatening other members, nope. I may be full of Sh-t, but, I sure don’t see you policing others in this manner.

I was simply setting the stag for a valid question: How far does Socialism go before its considered Communism, followed with would you recognize it if you saw it?

 

[HunterSeeker]

That "communist" agenda you posted is not related to communism at all.

 

[Nickcpus]

That "communist" agenda you posted is not related to communism at all.

Its not Karl Marx's 10 planks of communism, its a chest game on how to win. Don't pay attention to the comments under the objectives, there are far better arguments than those.

Some of the objectives are self-evident, others are for the purpose of social conflict. Social conflict is a key element for starting a communist nation. Marx’s ideal was the poor would rise up against the rich, this not the social conflict I’m talking about. That won’t work in modern day because the well-fare system is a pacifier for the poor. Pacifier? Why would you bite the hand that feeds you?

The social conflict in the agenda is meant to weaken the enemy from within. Make everyone hate each other and disagree. Why? Makes it easier to carry out your agenda, create alliances, gain public support, obtain forgiveness (if needed) and to seize power.

Example of a pawn who has played his part in this game is Sadom Husian. How many crimes against humanity has he committed? How many times has he tested the international community? And yet the international community continues to grant his forgiveness, while turning its aggression toward the United States. What about in the State? Well the entire world saw the battle lines drawn during the elections.

Seize power? Social conflict in the sense of violence tends to lead too less freedoms like curfews, censorship, stricter laws, martial law… The Patriot Act and one day check mate.

 

[Gray Fox]

http://www.halflife2.net/forums/showthread.php?t=66352&page=1&pp=15

Ok Nickpus do this by the illuminati made test, and see if you are one. Post your results.

 

[Nickcpus]

http://www.halflife2.net/forums/showthread.php?t=66352&page=1&pp=15

Ok Nickpus do this by the illuminati made test, and see if you are one. Post your results.

Illuminati, now that’s funny.

Ok here it goes

Economic Left/Right: -1.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.69

 

[Gray Fox]

Haha, youre a leftie. Hahahaha you're leftwing pussie. Or dare I say it, you're a democrat. Nah wait democrats are a little more rightwing.

 

[MarcoPollo]

people keep throwing around the words "right-winged propoganda" so when a republican talks about the major downsides to Left winged type new political factions it's propoganda but when Michael Moore puts rediculous bits of completly warped and watered down facts it's.......freedom of speech. And if anyone objects they're given names like Nazi and such. Yes that makes PERFECT sense. :thumbs: :rolling:

 

[Steve]

people keep throwing around the words "right-winged propoganda" so when a republican talks about the major downsides to Left winged type new political factions it's propoganda but when Michael Moore puts rediculous bits of completly warped and watered down facts it's.......freedom of speech. And if anyone objects they're given names like Nazi and such. Yes that makes PERFECT sense. :thumbs: :rolling:

Each side refers to its own propaganda as freedom of expression in one manner or another, and to the propaganda of the other side as just that.

 

[RZAL]

people keep throwing around the words "right-winged propoganda" so when a republican talks about the major downsides to Left winged type new political factions it's propoganda but when Michael Moore puts rediculous bits of completly warped and watered down facts it's.......freedom of speech. And if anyone objects they're given names like Nazi and such. Yes that makes PERFECT sense.

What I truly find disturbing is the fact people are so gullible they allow themselves to be manipulated and used without ever realizing it.
How would Ralph Waldo Emerson put it? Something like “the mass public is like a herd of cattle being led to the slaughterhouse… oblivious to their fate”.
While most people are debating every imaginable right under the sun or what’s right and wrong, our enemies are plotting against us. If you haven’t read the AlQuaeda Training manual, take a look at it and try to understand how predators think. This is war, and I fear its here for the long run.
http://www.usdoj.gov/ag/trainingmanual.htm

 

[burner69]

What I truly find disturbing is the fact people are so gullible they allow themselves to be manipulated and used without ever realizing it.
How would Ralph Waldo Emerson put it? Something like “the mass public is like a herd of cattle being led to the slaughterhouse… oblivious to their fate”.
While most people are debating every imaginable right under the sun or what’s right and wrong, our enemies are plotting against us. If you haven’t read the AlQuaeda Training manual, take a look at it and try to understand how predators think. This is war, and I fear its here for the long run.
http://www.usdoj.gov/ag/trainingmanual.htm

Certainly an interesting link. But let's be honest it's hardly any different from western solider's training, only Al-Quaeda say
"We shall kill all who oppress our task so their blood stains the earth" (or something)
And westerners put it like this
"We shall not give in to terrorism, we shall not allow them to take our freedom"

Al-Quaeda certainly writes it more grizzly, but both goals are the same.

 

[RZAL]

Certainly an interesting link. But let's be honest it's hardly any different from western solider's training, only Al-Quaeda say
"We shall kill all who oppress our task so their blood stains the earth" (or something)
And westerners put it like this
"We shall not give in to terrorism, we shall not allow them to take our freedom"

Al-Quaeda certainly writes it more grizzly, but both goals are the same.

I most certainly agree, the basic rules of war are universal. It was meant more as a supplement to Nicks 10 planks of Communism and “Current Communist Agenda”. Look at lesson 12 to the end, talks about recruiting, interrogation, what to do in court.

Not that I’m arguing any points, other than similarities and weakness which theoretically could be used to advance ones agenda. Then following up with Nicks question, would we see the enemy coming if someone raged a non-traditional war?

 

[Kommie]

I am sure that translation is in the most extreme version possible, kind of like translations in movies when they put in the dubs/subtitles they may say F*ck when what was really said was the equivalent of darn

 

[RZAL]

I am sure that translation is in the most extreme version possible, kind of like translations in movies when they put in the dubs/subtitles they may say F*ck when what was really said was the equivalent of darn

Missing the point again. They are exploiting basic human weaknesses/strengths to further their cause.

Think psychology 101. Play dad (the authoritarian) against mom (the nurturing humanitarian), exploit and manipulate, does divide and conquer ring a bell?

I am sure that translation is in the most extreme version possible

What the F*ck does that mean? No one in the world needed a dictionary to understand the definition of 9/11(for that matter any terrorist act). I don’t think “our” enemies were communicating, “oh darn” more like let’s kill as many as we can.

 

[burner69]

Missing the point again. They are exploiting basic human weaknesses/strengths to further their cause.
.

Ba*tards!

We'd never do that... oh wait... look at third world cheap labour. Look at prosecution of drug users. Look at bombing Iraq/ Afghanistan, killing thousands of innocents. Look at third world debt. We do it all the time.

Fact is, both sides do it - and as long as we're c***s, there will continue to be an opposition to us.

HAHA! Just realised, u were calling the west a nuturing humanitarian!!!

 

[RZAL]

Fact is, both sides do it - and as long as we're c***s, there will continue to be an opposition to us.

Yea I think we all understand this point.

HAHA! Just realised, u were calling the west a nuturing humanitarian!!!

Well not exactly, more like trying to find a simply analogy most could relate to.

 

[Tr0n]

Well here is the democratic party for ya!

 

[Nickcpus]

In 1991, the World rejoiced. The Soviet Union slipped on its own massive crap hole and collapsed. The Cold War was over, and nuclear war became a lot more improbable (at least theoretically). Bunkers could be dissembled and you could talk about politics in Russia without having to look over your shoulder. Marx’s dream had failed.

Yet the “evil communism” stigma remained on the minds of many Americans. They had fought the same enemy for so long, with the support and helping hand of so many people, that people simply couldn’t realize that communism did have its good side. In Europe, while Communist parties all-around fell in the polls when the truth about the Soviet Union was unveiled, the atrocities committed for one’s dream of utter equality turned into another’s dream of ultimate power. Like fascism, communism was relegated to small pockets of people resistant to change, viewed by the majority of the populace as nostalgic dreamers.

But the truth is that communism is happening. Not based off the proletariat, as Marx predicted, but off the so-called middle class based off services on wealthy European countries, that is growing to include the vast majority of the citizens. Socialism took the Nordic states to the top of the U.N. chart of Human Development, one of the most reliable indicators for general quality of life, above powers like Japan and the U.S.A. Marx did predict that socialism was a necessary step towards the State-less ideal communism. We’re just taking the long way.

While political independence for minorities is increasingly important, so is economic union. Unfortunately, there is a thin line between two and they are commonly confused. Sceptics fear that the EU and the UN will destroy their hard-earned independence with a few enforced policies. In truth, these institutions only lose more and more power they could use to enforce human rights, peace and increase economical development that would actually benefit more the rich sceptics in the developed countries than the poor indigents that beg for its help.
So the seed for the future world Communist is not being planted by the feared international organizations between powers, it’s being planted by the small wealthy countries were the populace is eager to join up with more of their kin in order to be economically strong, but politically and culturally independent.

Aside from politics, the new generation is also building its own foundation of communism. In the Internet. Bill Gates is now demonised as the leader of a supranational consortium with total monopoly over what you do in our personal PC, and people are fighting back. P2P programs can now massively distribute software with asking only that you share with others what you’ve downloaded. The so-called “open source” software like Bit Torrent, Shareaza and Emule are killing the malware packed competition in P2P, while Firefox is killing the time-stopped Internet Explorer browser.

With the constant mechanization of industry and agriculture, there will be only rare remnants of a lower class. Capitalist equality through the state tax system is perfectly doable, as shown by countries such as Sweden. By overtaxing the rich and undertaxing the poor, Governments can design a perfect basis for not only for communism, but for mankind itself. So, contrary to a few people, there is no need for violent revolution. The bad distribution of wealth is being fought against at all fronts because it is a precursor to instability. Therefore the capitalist State must naturally prepare itself for communism in order to ensure its own continuation.
The Soviet Union was definitely the Evil Empire. As Reagan said it, defended the “superiority of the State over the individual”. And that is undoubtedly against Human nature. But communism isn’t about that. Communism is, as FDR said it so well in his Four Freedoms speech (State of the Union address, 1941), about “freedom from want”. About cooperation and compassion. And we don’t need no Comintern.

This is the answer I was looking for, thanks.