The Walking Dead Season 2

[Maestro]

That said, most of the cast is made up of unlikeable ****s.

 

[Krynn72]

Daryl is now the redeeming factor in this show. I actually liked most of the last episode, and much of the one prior. In this episode, only the shooting incident and the very last bit were stupid as shit. Usually there's like five to ten times as many stupid things. Hopefully this keeps up.

 

[morgs]

Most of the stupid stuff seems to come from Andrea (?) which is why I really want her out. So anxstyyyyyy.

 

[CptStern]

I for one look forward to reading through all the posts about how much people hate this show come monday morning

 

[knut]

i still haven't seen the week before lasts, been too preoccupied with finishing up mad men lately

 

[Lucid]

I, for one, look forward to seeing everyone clamor to the show's defense after we criticize it.

 

[Yuri]

I for one look forward to reading through all the posts about how much people hate this show come monday morning

seems you like do hate it, but if youre telling the truth, then i think this relationship is working out!

 

[Lucid]

I think you accidentally the whole thing.

 

[knut]

I, for one, look forward to seeing everyone clamor to the show's defense after we criticize it.

Ugh, you're all ****ing stupid and this argument is stupid.

yeah, sure you do, with your tail between your legs and all that.

 

[Yuri]

I think you accidentally the whole thing.

oh god i did....

 

[Lucid]

yeah, sure you do, with your tail between your legs and all that.

Huh? That "****ing stupid" remark was towards the amazingly nonsensical and ultimately pointless argument that you guys were having.

 

[knut]

you mean that argument i was having in which i was criticizing the show? you just made a comment yourself about ''we'' criticizing it, only you weren't so quick to make much of an effort last week. at the heart of the argument i was commenting on how bad i think the show was - the only nonsensical part of it was stern making a big deal out of the fact that i watched the show when i didn't like it, which i've explained an number of times why and it shouldn't matter whatsoever.

you could of jumped in at any time to help me criticize it's badness

 

[Lucid]

I didn't bother to read any of the posts since they were unnecessarily huge walls of text.

 

[Ennui]

So I just thought of something guys... theory about Merle. Don't read the spoiler unless you are caught up on the show AND have read the comics or don't care about the comic plotline being spoiled.

Spoiler

What if Merle ends up being The Governor? In the comics the Governor is the head honcho of a small town and basically is your typical dictator. He chops Rick's hand off and is generally a total power crazed psychopath (he has that zombie in his house that he feeds like a pet and shit). Essentially, Merle's character is already a perfect fit, and the missing hand thing could tie them together - especially since Merle considers Rick solely responsible for losing his hand and will want revenge.

Thoughts from other comic readers?

 

[knut]

I didn't bother to read any of the posts since they were unnecessarily huge walls of text.

so... at what point did logic dictate, to you, that what you hadn't read was pointless and nonsensical?

ennui,

Spoiler

that's an interesting theory, but it's not something i would like to happen. merle is a bit of wackjob and yeah, he's going to want some revenge on rick, but i think the governor is the point in the comics where you really see that some dregs of humanity have deteriorated into utter scum, and to bring in a old character for that wouldn't really get across the same kind of message of there being ''others'' out there that are worse than the undead.

plus, to begin with, there is that sense of relief when they are taken in by the governors people and the initial conversation with him sounds promising, and then it's the gradual realization that he is a power-hungry sicko that takes you by surprise. having merle be that guy wouldn't have the same effect, i don't think.

again plus, the way he loses his arm to michonne, after what he has done to her, is a real ''**** YEAH'' for the team. he needs both his limbs so that he has something more to lose.

but thats all my thoughts, and the rate they change things in this show i'm sure it's all just throwaway to the writers!

 

[Lucid]

Don't remember, don't care to go into it.

Anyways, classy dick grabbing by Andrea.
Lori raising valid concerns about having a baby in a zombie apocalypse.
Glenn spilling the beans about all of the secrets that were confided to him.
Lori finally tells Rick about her and Shane and Rick's just like "Whatevs, figured as much."
And hooray, they're sticking to barn's comic plot.

Ep was probably one the better of the season thus far, next one looks to be good since they're finally going to deal with the barn.

 

[Raziaar]

Haven't finished the episode yet but...

Spoiler

The hand grabbing the chick in the pharmacy was completely predictable. You knew there was going to be a moment that was supposed to "change her view".

 

[Shakermaker]

Haven't finished the episode yet but...

Spoiler

The hand grabbing the chick in the pharmacy was completely predictable. You knew there was going to be a moment that was supposed to "change her view".

And that wasn't the only hand grabbing in this episode lol. Shane ftw.

Good episode. Everything is being set up very nicely for the mid-season finale.

And so much Dale-face!

 

[Dog--]

The show isn't even a zombie show anymore, it's a stupid drama with a few zombies thrown in here and there. The first season was awesome, exactly what I'd expect from a zombie show - what happened?

 

[Yuri]

millions began watching, thats what happened.

zombies are no longer a threat to these characters, they are just a plot device to get the drama moving in their boring shitty lives.

Spoiler

JUMP SCARE PHARMACY ZOMBIE = more sexual tension between dorkdude and farmerbitch.

A BILLION TOWN ZOMBIES = undramatic confrontation solely used as catalyst for derpblonde and secretpsycho f*ckscene

OH MY GOD MY NERDRAGE BONER COULD CUT DIAMONDS

i would argue that the oldhat vs. secretpsycho confrontation was decent enough.

 

[Lucid]

The show was always supposed to be about the ****ing characters, god damn you guys.

But, unfortunately they can't even handle the character drama very well.

 

[knut]

STOP CRITICIZING THE SHOW YOU GUYS

dont you all know its made for dumb audiences which is why its okay to bend over and take it? god lol

 

[CptStern]

The show isn't even a zombie show anymore, it's a stupid drama with a few zombies thrown in here and there.

so many of you havent clued in to the fact the show is about survival not zombies. the "walking dead" in the title are the humans, not the zombies. this last episode should have clued some of you in to that. so, now that people know there'll be less people complaining about drama in their zombie show. "zomg who put zombies in my drama show???"

 

[knut]

please don't lump us ''so many'' in with dog--, the majority of this thread is people arguing how much this show (and the comic) is about human survival, or at least it was back when it first came up. lot of people complaining that it's the acting and characters that are so awful though, so in some ways you can't blame people like dog wanting the show to be more about zombies - some of the undead in amc's hit multi-million viewed broadcast ''the walking dead'' are better characters than the main cast!

 

[Dog--]

The show is called "The Walking Dead" - referring to zombies. The dead are walking, where do you get the idea that the walking dead means the people?

And ok. Say the show is about survival. Fair enough - so why hasn't there been more then like 3 instances where they are actually surviving? They are at a farmhouse with a ton of people and food and water and medical supplies and a doctor and apparently infinite ammo too. I haven't seen any 'survival' so far, aside from the first season when Rick was on his own.

Also most of the characters were cool in the first season, now they are almost all whiners. Especially Rick.

 

[CptStern]

The show is called "The Walking Dead" - referring to zombies. The dead are walking, where do you get the idea that the walking dead means the people?

yes I realize that but thematically the humans are the walking dead (dead man walking, all living on borrowed time etc) as the show is about them not the zombies

And ok. Say the show is about survival. Fair enough - so why hasn't there been more then like 3 instances where they are actually surviving? They are at a farmhouse with a ton of people and food and water and medical supplies and a doctor and apparently infinite ammo too. I haven't seen any 'survival' so far, aside from the first season when Rick was on his own.

on their own or as a group they're still trying to survive. would you rather they did episodes centered around doing the laundry or going to town for a twinkie run?

Also most of the characters were cool in the first season, now they are almost all whiners. Especially Rick.

I dont find the characters at all different from what they were in season 1 and this season's "finding a safe zone" is building up tension because their safe zone is falling apart

some of the undead in amc's hit multi-million viewed broadcast ''the walking dead'' are better characters than the main cast!

haha ok like which zombie? the one that goes HGHHHHHH or the the one that goes HERGHAHHHHH


"ok in this scene you're trying to eat the human ...just like last scene only with more HGGGHHHHHH and less HERGHAHHHHH"

"what's my character's motivation?"

"oh ..I dont know, brains or something"

"ok ..... HERGHAHHHHH!!!"

NO NO NO I SAID HGGGHHHHH not HERGHAHHHHH!!! jesus ****ing chirst can the goddam studio send someone who can actually act like a zombie?? HEY you, pushing that broom, let me see you shuffle your feet ... BRILLIANT! you're hired"

 

[knut]

haha ok like which zombie? the one that goes HGHHHHHH or the the one that goes HERGHAHHHHH


"ok in this scene you're trying to eat the human ...just like last scene only with more HGGGHHHHHH and less HERGHAHHHHH"

"what's my character's motivation?"

"oh ..I dont know, brains or something"

"ok ..... HERGHAHHHHH!!!"

NO NO NO I SAID HGGGHHHHH not HERGHAHHHHH!!! jesus ****ing chirst can the goddam studio send someone who can actually act like a zombie?? HEY you, pushing that broom, let me see you shuffle your feet ... BRILLIANT! you're hired"

yes, i was being deadly serious

 

[Dog--]

yes I realize that but thematically the humans are the walking dead (dead man walking, all living on borrowed time etc) as the show is about them not the zombies

So why not just make it so a nuke went off and killed everyone but them? Just as believable, and this way they don't get people hoping for zombies and being disappointed.

on their own or as a group they're still trying to survive. would you rather they did episodes centered around doing the laundry or going to town for a twinkie run?

Yes. Survival means finding food and supplies to survive. Not going around whining about killing yourself, or crying about being pregnant, or keeping a barn full of zombies because they're 'friends' of yours. Also if I recall correctly in the first season that's exactly what they were doing - laundry, going into town to find food and supplies.

I dont find the characters at all different from what they were in season 1 and this season's "finding a safe zone" is building up tension because their safe zone is falling apart

Drastically different. The one girl is a bitch and wants to kill herself now. Rick whines about EVERYTHING. Shane is a creepy killer now (I actually like how he changed here). Ricks wife wines, Dale wines, honestly the only characters I like now are Shane and the hillbilly guy (forgot his name :/ ). And I don't even count the hillbilly guy as even really being present in the first season because he wasn't really, he was in like one episode. And the only tension building I want to see is when they find his brother (it's obviously going to happen). Once the farmhouse gets overrun by the zombies in the barn (it will happen), and they all have to go on the road again it will be just like when they left the first camp.

 

[CptStern]

So why not just make it so a nuke went off and killed everyone but them? Just as believable, and this way they don't get people hoping for zombies and being disappointed.

I think you want Jericho. also endless episodes about running to the store to get twinkies and lying around just waiting to die

Yes. Survival means finding food and supplies to survive. Not going around whining about killing yourself, or crying about being pregnant, or keeping a barn full of zombies because they're 'friends' of yours.

ya the writers might have a more vivid imagination than you do. finding food/supplies would get boring really fast as you can tell by the number of episodes devoted to ...finding food or looking for supplies (if not for the sex and making that zombie into a giant pez dispenser, the one and only time they actually show them foraging for supplies would have been dreadfully boring)

Also if I recall correctly in the first season that's exactly what they were doing - laundry, going into town to find food and supplies.

ya those are called establishing scenes. should they go back to doing laundry? pretty sure they were doing laundry in the second season as well

Drastically different. The one girl is a bitch and wants to kill herself now. Rick whines about EVERYTHING. Shane is a creepy killer now (I actually like how he changed here).

how can we watch the same show yet come to two different conclusions on characters?

shane isnt a "creepy killer" if anything he was protecting HIS own by shooting otis so that carl will survive. I would have done the same to any one of you. ..that's not fair as I'd shoot most of you for the hell of it

"sorry dude, life after the collapse of society is just too brutally short to hear you complain about sand in your vagina BLAMBLAMBLAM"

Ricks wife wines,

she's pregnant. drinking wine is a no no.

also she's pregnant in a world where her baby will most likely die a horrible death. not too mention havign to watch her own son and husband eventually meeting a similiar fate. I mean god forbid she actually have a reason to whine like "oh woe is me I broke a nail" "GODAAMIT IT ALL TO HELL I'M OUT OF TAMPONS!"

Dale wines,

lol Dale is only person who sees the truth

honestly the only characters I like now are Shane and the hillbilly guy (forgot his name :/ ). And I don't even count the hillbilly guy as even really being present in the first season because he wasn't really, he was in like one episode. And the only tension building I want to see is when they find his brother (it's obviously going to happen). Once the farmhouse gets overrun by the zombies in the barn (it will happen), and they all have to go on the road again it will be just like when they left the first camp.

so back to survival mode. and then the whining will stop, yes?

 

[Dog--]

ya the writers might have a more vivid imagination than you do. finding food/supplies would get boring really fast as you can tell by the number of episodes devoted to ...finding food or looking for supplies (if not for the sex and making that zombie into a giant pez dispenser, the one and only time they actually show them foraging for supplies would have been dreadfully boring

No, they can find ways to make it cool, like giving them a place to go that they think is safe (for example the CDC in the first season!). Or like when the kid got shot - not only did it get rid of an annoying little kid for a while, but also gave them reason to go into town and *gasp* GET SUPPLIES.

how can we watch the same show yet come to two different conclusions on characters?

shane isnt a "creepy killer" if anything he was protecting HIS own by shooting otis so that carl will survive. I would have done the same to any one of you.

Dude he tried to rape the chick, 1 point for creepy. He killed that guy and lied about it then shaved his head to hide the hair that guy ripped out. 1 point for killer. He only has 2 things going for him - being creepy and being a killer, therefore: CREEPY KILLER.

she's pregnant. drinking wine is a no no. also she's pregnant in a world where her baby will most likely die a horrible death. not too mention havign to watch her own son and husband eventually meeting a similiar fate. I mean god forbid she actually have a reason to whine like "oh woe is me I broke a nail" "GODAAMIT IT ALL TO HELL I'M OUT OF TAMPONS!"

*whines

To be honest even in the first season all she did was bitch and whine. I just don't like her as a character at all. Plus she's a shitty actress. But they could've avoided the whole thing by just not making her pregnant in the first place. Now the whole series is going to revolve around protecting the pregnant annoying bitch..

lol Dale is only person who sees the truth

Yet in the first season he never whined. He was like the wise old sage!

so back to survival mode

so many of you havent clued in to the fact the show is about survival not zombies.

 

[CptStern]

No, they can find ways to make it cool, like giving them a place to go that they think is safe (for example the CDC in the first season!).

or like a farm house with other survivors?

Or like when the kid got shot - not only did it get rid of an annoying little kid for a while, but also gave them reason to go into town and *gasp* GET SUPPLIES.

ya because had they gone to the town to get supplies WITHOUT the kid getting shot it would have been boring. also no otis getting shot/eaten, no shane getting a haircut etc

Dude he tried to rape the chick, 1 point for creepy. He killed that guy and lied about it then shaved his head to hide the hair that guy ripped out. 1 point for killer. He only has 2 things going for him - being creepy and being a killer, therefore: CREEPY KILLER.

lol. he didnt try to rape her he tried to dominate her. this all about power struggle. also he didnt kill otis, technically he just shot otis, he didnt kill him. so really not a creepy killer

*whines

she's a woman in a world gone to hell with zero survival skills. be thankful she doesnt drone on endlessly about shopping or her nails

To be honest even in the first season all she did was bitch and whine. I just don't like her as a character at all. Plus she's a shitty actress. But they could've avoided the whole thing by just not making her pregnant in the first place. Now the whole series is going to revolve around protecting the pregnant annoying bitch..

lol I'd hate to watch your Zombie show. it would be nothing but endless runs to the general store and shooting zombies endlessly. I can see why you like video games

Yet in the first season he never whined. He was like the wise old sage!

how is he whing now?

 

[Dog--]

or like a farm house with other survivors?

Survivors is an EXTREMELY loose term in this case.. Besides the barn I haven't seen one zombie anywhere near that house.

ya because had they gone to the town to get supplies WITHOUT the kid getting shot it would have been boring. also no otis getting shot/eaten, no shane getting a haircut etc

Alright, I guess you got a point there.. :hmph:

lol. he didnt try to rape her he tried to dominate her. this all about power struggle. also he didnt kill otis, technically he just shot otis, he didnt kill him. so really not a creepy killer

Seems like your playing highschool English teacher and overanalysing the shit out it when there is no analysing needed.. He doesn't care about power - he was in love with her and got drunk and tried to rape her. It's as simple as that.

she's a woman in a world gone to hell with zero survival skills. be thankful she doesnt drone on endlessly about shopping or her nails

I'm not saying it needs to be a light-hearted party all the time, it's a pretty serious situation, but come on. The redneck dude has the persona town to a T. He accepts the situation and tries to adapt. No whining no complaining just surviving. And that's also not to say there needs to be NO whining, I mean her son got shot - there's a reason to whine.

lol I'd hate to watch your Zombie show. it would be nothing but endless runs to the general store and shooting zombies endlessly. I can see why you like video games

How did you figure that out? The fact we're arguing about this on a videogame site? No, I actually hate video games. They don't need to run to the general store every episode, each season could be a different account on different survivors, they could've made the 'safe place' far far away and the whole show was about them getting there.. They could've done a million things, but instead they made it so they have everything they need, they are at a perfectly safe location, so now the show about zombies can focus on the little arguments and drama of the survivors.. Nice.

how is he whing now?

OH BUT YOU SHOULD BE THANKING ME I SAVED YOU FROM KILLING YOURSELF!

OH MY GOD YOU HAD SEX WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU?

I mean he doesn't really have all that much scenes, but he could whine a little less.. Not a huge deal, I didn't mean to make it sound like it was.

 

[Yuri]

lol. he didnt try to rape her he tried to dominate her. this all about power struggle. also he didnt kill otis, technically he just shot otis, he didnt kill him. so really not a creepy killer

holy shit, stern, you are a f*cking total goddamn creep D:

and dog, just so you know, youre making a whole lot of very good points but arguing with stern about something he arbitrarily decided at the beginning of a thread ends no where

past all of the shortcomings ive whined about, the overarching disappointment is that the show lacks direction. in drama-based character stories, there is generally some large obstacle to overcome, or some goal to achieve. in the first season, it was ricks journey to the group, and then the groups journey to the CDC. in this season, it is much more episode-to-episode. that's why they have to rely on ambiguous and seemingly random cliffhangers to hold peoples interest. right now the only goal is to find some little girl, and theyve been dragging that lame goal out so long that if they do find her, it's going to be ****ing stupid. and thats literally it, they have everything they need to survive comfortably, so it is now solely relying on the personal drama of a cast of boring one-dimensional characters.

and thats what makes the difference of season 1's "oh **** they are stuck on a roof of a building filled with zombies, how will they survive???" and season 2's "oh my god one of the worst characters is pregnant how will they survive????"

 

[CptStern]

holy shit, stern, you are a f*cking total goddamn creep D:

and you're a melodramatic fool, but what you gonna do?



ok I admit it; the show isnt very realistic and it's starting to nag me to the point where I just cant watch it any more. do the producers actually think they can fool us into thinking Carl is supposed to be 7 years old? he's played by an actor who's actually 12 years old! gawd IMMERSION RUINED!!!!

 

[Yuri]

he didnt try to rape her he tried to dominate her

that in itself is just a creepy creepy thing to say about a creepy scene with a dude who is totally losing his shit. the lengths youll go to keep up an argument are sometimes disturbing

also who said anything about realism? is that a thing youre gonna make up to argue about now?

 

[Dog--]

and you're a melodramatic fool, but what you gonna do?



ok I admit it; the show isnt very realistic and it's starting to nag me to the point where I just cant watch it any more. do the producers actually think they can fool us into thinking Carl is supposed to be 7 years old? he's played by an actor who's actually 12 years old! gawd IMMERSION RUINED!!!!

lol i kno right?

 

[CptStern]

that in itself is just a creepy creepy thing to say about a creepy scene with a dude who is totally losing his shit. the lengths youll go to keep up an argument are sometimes disturbing

settle down nancy.

 

[Yuri]

Attack Pattern: Be an Insulting Asshole ... Initiated
Totally Casual Shields ... Engaged
Dude Why are You Taking this so Seriously Blasters ... Charged and Ready

"Brigand, this is your Cpt speaking. How is the douche-engine?"
"Running hot, sir."
"Good, add some Total Dickery. Full throttle ahead!"

To boorishly go where no internet douchebag has gone before.

 

[CptStern]

I guess one slap wasnt enough. you foamin'

 

[Dog--]

Spoiler

I am sooooooooo god damn glad that little girl died!