There is no Infinity.

Maskirovka said:
i fully understand your explanation, kyle, but i don't understand how that example proved innervision wrong.



how does the "infinite number of numbers between 14 and 15" example prove that wrong? that was my question.

innervision was saying that because you started counting, your number was already finite. you had a number you started with, and a number you've gotten to so far...therefore at any point in time, the count is not infinite. therefore infinity is a concept that must trancend time.

i understand that the graph of x^.5 starts and doesn't stop, but a normal graph automatically includes all X values...which means it includes the possibility of infinity. innervision was not talking about an cartesian coordinate graph.

damn sorry, guess i was a little tired when i wrote that. i completely misunderstood you :p

btw that whole "infinite number of numbers between 14 and 15" deal is true. and let's leave time out of this because time is not infinite and never will be infinite no matter how hard you try. to prove there is an infinite number of numbers between 14 and 15 try making the lowest real number that does not equal 14. 14.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000... what is this? you can hold down your 0 key forever without hitting 1 because there will always be a number smaller than that or something like that :p

also, this has nothing to do with anything but y=x is infinite on a cartesian coordinate graph :p
 
um....I think ill leave this thread now :|

/me slowly walks away
 
Ack. Now I remember why I dropped out of maths as soon as I was legally able to do so...

Isn't infinity such a magnificent concept to argue about? Like, for example, how the law of averages dictates that if the universe is infinite (in magnitude rather than lifespan) that every possibility, no matter how minute, will have occured an infinite number of times.

Infinitely small/infinitely big... even though we only have terminology for representing yotta to yocto (10^24/10^-24 respectively) a number has no actual limit or minimum to its value (without stepping into the whole negative causality junk that some people seem to think concerns antimatter. Ooh, theoretical physics rubbish. I think. Theoretically).

Shows you how education changes in time/location... my math's teacher explained to my class that .999999 recurring was one rather than indicating that it was directly representative of the infinite. In the sense that, I suppose, the difference between the infinitely recurring decimal is infinitely small, or, come to think of it, infinitely big.

Excuse me...

/me leaves the thread calmly before allowing his brain to melt.
 
Infinity can never be anything more than a theoretical concept IMO, I may not be a world-reknowned mathematician but I do know that if it's impossible to measure something - to observe it - then there is no way you can prove it exists.
 
The universe has no begining or end....probably, some scientists have a estimate for the size of the universe and some say that the universe is a ball so therefore never ending, infinite! but we dont know yet
 
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