Thief 3 = Crappy engine

[DarkStar]

Why does this game run so poorly on my computer? I can run Far Cry at Very High settings but I have to descrease the resolution to 800x600 in Thief 3 and the framerate is still crap! Like I'm talking low 20s with everything turned off and the resolution at 800x600, when I get 30+ FPS in Far Cry at Very High settings and 1024x768. I DON'T UNDETSTAND!!!!!! I had the same problem with the Deus Ex demo, I think the engine is just shitty and unoptimized. Maybe I'm wrong, can anyone help?

I've got a Pentium 3.2 Ghz, a Geforce ti4200 and 512 megs of RAM by the way.

 

[Shuzer]

I'd have to say it's because DX:IW and T3 are more demanding than FC (atleast, in my experience)

Thief 3 runs flawlessly for me (demo, anyhow), as does DX:IW (30+ FPS is flawless in my book, but only for these games lol).. I really think it's just your Ti4200, as Thief DS and DX:IW are heavy on shadows, while FC scales back better to last generation hardware

 

[DarkStar]

I'd have to say it's because DX:IW and T3 are more demanding than FC (atleast, in my experience)

That just seems so strange to me because Far Cry looks about 10x better than these games. Well, good thing I played the demo, I won't be buying this puppy.

 

[CrazyHarij]

Yeah, it's so true.. I really, really, really, really hate the DX:IW and Thief engine.. :|

 

[Willber123]

if i remember correctly farcry forces most if not all Nvidia cards to use PS 1.4. so when you run farcry on very high settings, it is not infact very high, very high being the use of PS 2.0 etc.

so i have to agree with Shuzer and say that its your card thats holding you back.

 

[Frank]

They should give away free 9800 PROs

 

[Neutrino]

Go to the Eidos forums: http://forums.eidosgames.com/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=46

This has been discussed over there a lot and there are a lot of fixes cropping up. Search around a bit and also read this thread: http://forums.eidosgames.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=39034

 

[Crushenator 500]

Yeah, it's so true.. I really, really, really, really hate the DX:IW and Thief engine.. :|

im probably just pulling this out of my ass, but i seem to remember it being based out on the unreal engine.

not that i dont think its utter shite though.....

 

[JimmehH]

There are a lot of settings relating to Unreal network protocols and the unreal engine in the Thief 3 config file. Doesn't mean it isn't badly implemented though. It crashes on my computer before it even gets to the menu screen.

 

[SidewinderX]

It is base don Unreal warfasre engine, but they have redone, pretty mcuh, all of the lightiing...


anyway... it's probably the ti4200...it's a good card, but it obviously is starting to loose its shine...

I cna play it at 30+ fps (which is fien for single player for me) at high settings and 1024x768... (2.3ghz machine (after OC), 512mb ram, 9600pro)

 

[FictiousWill]

First I have to download the demo - heh. Then if I get crappy fps (ti4200 here too) I'll try that omega driver fix. DX2 ran decently, maybe 35ish fps, but if I can break 40 at 1024, then I'm good to go.

About this Unreal Warfare engine - was there ever an unreal game made with it?

 

[Alig]

It runs shit on my pc as well.

I dont believe you about farcry + very high settings + gf4 ti4200 = 30fps's because i could only run it at medium/high/very high water and get about 30 fps at 1024 with a 2.6AMD @ 2.3ghz, 1gb DDR400, GF4 TI4600.

 

[Axyon]

About this Unreal Warfare engine - was there ever an unreal game made with it?

Unreal 2 was. Plus UT2k3/4, if you count them.

 

[filipeg165]

hey i have far cry too and it runs awesome on my pc, with very high settings, i have a P4 2.8 HT, 512mb DDR400 and a Geforce FX 5600 256mb, but i also tried the Deus EX demo with all settings at the minimum possible and 800x600, i got constant 20 fps!!! while at far cry with all settings very high i get around 50 fps!!!! as you ppl probably said, its the engine i think that too...

 

[Shuzer]

Raise your hand if you don't believe filipeg165 can run FC at 50FPS with an FX5600 at max details

*Shuzer raises hand

 

[Axyon]

Raise your hand if you don't believe filipeg165 can run FC at 50FPS with an FX5600 at max details

*Shuzer raises hand

I dunno, I think I could do it at a 640x480 resolution. Oh, and filipeg165? Shorten your signature to 4 lines.

 

[Shuzer]

I dunno, I think I could do it at a 640x480 resolution. Oh, and filipeg165? Shorten your signature to 4 lines.

640x480 doesn't raise FPS very much for me in FC
Point was, I don't believe an FX5600 could pull those framerates in FC, barely pulls 40 for most high-end systems (I'm usually running around 30 in it)

 

[DropnonE]

Make sure you turn OFF v-sync in video options. That can really cut your fps in half in some cases. It says stuff about it in the readme file.

 

[Arno]

Raise your hand if you don't believe filipeg165 can run FC at 50FPS with an FX5600 at max details

*Arno raises hand

I have an FX5600 and I get around 10FPS at max details. He's probably talking about medium detail.