This is very worrying

[JFry]

How were they supposed to get footage if they didnt know it was comin? I think it would be more wierd if they got footage of it than if they didnt.

Did you watch that video from the other thread on this subject? It was caught on at least 3 security cameras.

Well first of all, The Pentagon's walls are reinforced and built differently than the Twin Towers. I believe the Pentagon was built to withstand a nuclear blast.. and if it can do that Im sure it can withstand a plane crash. Now, Most of the Pentagon isn't actually in the "Pentagon" itself but alot is underground from what ive heard.. so i seriously think itll take much more than a plane to destroy a structure such as the Pentagon.

I think he was referring to wreckage from the plane itself.

Why would we cover up him having cruise missiles? I think its highly unlikely and i doubt they have a conventional cruise missile that can go from the caves of Afghanistan all the way to NYC and Washington D.C.. hell i dont think we even have a conventional missile with that kind of range.

I dunno anything about cruise missles, no comment!

Yeah, the republican party did it and tried to cover it up.. good one. I dont even think the democrats would do that as much i dislike the democratic party.. get real man.

I agree, this sounds like finger-pointing to me.

Nations such as Iran, Iraq, Syria and North Korea are or were trying to acquire these weapons.. (wow that sounds alot like most of the Axis of Evil President was talking about.. hmm) Bush wouldnt make this stuff up to make it up.. He has people that give him Intel on what the hell our enemies are up to.. Old or New intel, the president has a right to act on it in the best way he feels necessary.

While that is true, we didn't find any WMD in Iraq, which was Bush's main reason for going to war in the first place. To me it was an unjustified war and a mistake which cost lots of innocent peoples' lives.

Dude, i dont think you have any idea about the world going "Tits up." There was a time in history when the world was minutes from being obliterated by the exchange of nuclear weapons (several times in fact) and youre going to complain that just because we round up a few world assholes and act in our and our allies national security interests that you think the world is going to turn flat. You just need to relax man. The worst thing that will happen is Iran gets a new government and the terrorists will either die or scatter into dark tunnels like the cockroaches they are. But what good would it do if we just let them do whatever the hell they want? You act like were hijacking the world or somethin.

While a nuclear winter may not be right around the corner (as far as we know), I doubt we will ever be far from the threat of it. To ever truly be "safe" from it would take some drastic changes in the world. Either that or evacuate the planet, which I think is more likely to happen first.

 

[ComradeBadger]

Badger, your sig is too long, shrink it, 4 lines max.

Conspiracy, same with yours, its too big.

My bad, thought it was 4, fixed

 

[el Chi]

One thing I love about political discussions:

Liberals Republicans are inhuman nazis, you're close-minded

Republicans You're unpatriotic etc

You're all close minded, you make your minds up about things based on an arrogant and self-centred worldview.

Oh... My... God... a bipartisan witch! Strap him up to the fence he sits on and burn it. We shall make an example of him!

Now, back to you Right-wing Fascists...

 

[IchI]

Okay, tell me something then-what happened to flight 77. Think about it.

don't you think its weird how a plane just happen to crash before it go to its destination? also, have you ever actually seen pictures of this plane crash?

 

[Brian Damage]

I watched this program a while back that showed that there are actually several UFOs visible in the 9/11 footage. No joke. Little silver orbs.

That's all I'm saying.

 

[C-O-N-Spiracy]

You know how some people feel like something is wrong with themselves.. they cant breathe, they get dizzy, get scared, and go to the doctor only to find out nothing is wrong with them? Thats what it sounds like when you all try to expose a 9/11 "Conspiracy" when youre probably just thinking too much? Sounds like you all are just having a panic attack. Just breathe and relax.. there is nothing that the government did to intentionally hurt ourselves.. that wouldnt make an ounce of sense.

 

[el Chi]

I said it before but I'll say it again:
The video at no point gives any reason as to why there would be a cover-up? If you're going to make an argument, especially one as radical as this, it helps to at least establish some kind of motive. The video never does this. Not once.

Let's see:
If it was a missile fired by al-Qaeda, why would there be a cover-up? It would just make al-Qaeda seems more evil and threatening which is exactly what needs to be done if you want to justify a war on them. Also it merely underlines the fact that they are evil and threatening.

Conversely:
If it was fired purposefully by the US government (FBI/CIA/whatever) then certainly, a cover-up would be expected. However what reason does the US government have to blow up a large part of one of their most important buildings? Not for justification for the War on Terror, that's for sure; the WTC was more than enough of the justification they needed.

It simply makes no sense whatsoever and until there is some sort of semi-viable motive involved then your argument is practically null and void.

 

[Cybernoid]

Be careful el Chi, serious men wearing dark suits and sunglasses could come to your doorstep at any moment.

 

[el Chi]

Why? I was on their side. For once.
Pffft, CIA pansies. Bring it on, that's what I say.

 

[Cybernoid]

But then again...

 

[Sgt_Shellback]

I said it before but I'll say it again:
The video at no point gives any reason as to why there would be a cover-up? If you're going to make an argument, especially one as radical as this, it helps to at least establish some kind of motive. The video never does this. Not once.

Let's see:
If it was a missile fired by al-Qaeda, why would there be a cover-up? It would just make al-Qaeda seems more evil and threatening which is exactly what needs to be done if you want to justify a war on them. Also it merely underlines the fact that they are evil and threatening.

Conversely:
If it was fired purposefully by the US government (FBI/CIA/whatever) then certainly, a cover-up would be expected. However what reason does the US government have to blow up a large part of one of their most important buildings? Not for justification for the War on Terror, that's for sure; the WTC was more than enough of the justification they needed.

It simply makes no sense whatsoever and until there is some sort of semi-viable motive involved then your argument is practically null and void.

Quit making sense... You're going to discourage the theorists from spouting their rhetoric.... Without the insane rambeling the Democratic party almost looks like a good choice.

 

[Qwertywasd]

http://www.asile.org/citoyens/numero13/pentagone/erreurs_en.htm

 

[el Chi]

With regards to the above.

Did you find the Boeing? Can you still defend the official version of events?
Well done! Remember to get in touch with master of illusion, David Copperfield. He'll be glad to hear from you!

Nice and childish, what a way to rebuff people opposed to your views.

You found the official version lacking in something (like a Boeing, for example)

I find their little game lacking in something: a motive. Sorry to go back to my earlier point, but it really is so central to an argument that things get awfully tenuous without it and begin to crumble.
It also lacks an alternative explanation - even that other video had that (a missile of some sort). It simply says:
"This isn't what it seems! The government lied!"
"So what's the explanation, then? And why did the government lie?"
"This isn't what it seems! The government lied!"

It's true, the lack of wreckage, etc. is very curious, but until I see a decent alternative explanation and a motive then I'm simply not going to believe you.

 

[LAYP]

Guys, Guys, did you hear?!

Russian Gunmen took 400,000 hostages at columbine highschool today!
omg!1!

heartless

 

[C-O-N-Spiracy]

I dunno where i saw it but there were pictures of the American Air Jet debris spread further out.. the pieces were in larger chunks but they were quite a ways from the wall of the pentagon.. like it had exploded.. and thats exactly what it wouldve done id imagine.

 

[Rebecca]

I've seen footage, i saw it on TV. and they were showing a family on holiday, and one of them was recording, then they saw the plane just crashin into the buildings, and he was like "oh my god! oh my god!" he recorded the whole thing.

 

[Farrowlesparrow]

This is of a plane crashing into the Pentagon Rebecca? I don't remember seeing that...But then again, I'm not omnipotent or anything.

 

[Rebecca]

yeh i think so

 

[Letters]

Only thing I remember seeing is the aftermath.

 

[Varsity]

It simply makes no sense whatsoever and until there is some sort of semi-viable motive involved then your argument is practically null and void.

So because they couldn't imagine a reason, it obviously never took place? That's...very presumptious.
I'm more interested with the photos (no plane wreckage) the 3rd-party camera footage (confiscated), the holes in the buildings (small, neat) and the odd discrepancies (untouched chairs right next to fire-ravaged edges of collapsed buildings) that flash film showed than the fact that they couldn't see any reason for what they discovered.

 

[Neutrino]

I'm omnipotent

Wha?!

What color shirt am I wearing then?

 

[Farrowlesparrow]

You aren't wearing a shirt :O

 

[Neutrino]

You aren't wearing a shirt :O

You peeping tom!