To Christians: The apocalypse is coming, you're on the wrong boat

[Double_Blade]

Nice wording and a great read. Same reasons why I hate fanaticial christians.

I love Jesus and I am a worshipper of him.

But sadly, nowadays, christians had become too much fanaticial and had become national bigots. For example, the christians had a riot to ban the Da Vinci Code and they starve themselves due to the fact that Da Vinci Code isn't banned.

WOW!

In this case,

Now and till today, there are two groups of christians being divided.

Original Christians vs. Fanaticial christians

The originals are open-minded, kind and won't criticize people's beliefs

while on the other hand, fanaticial are the ones who are bigots, well, shouldn't call them christians because true christians ain't gonna do bad things to other people.

Well, of course, Jesus had said "Treat others with respect and you too will earn it someday".

Same goes to the fanaticial christians (especially or dangerously fanaticial christian parents).

 

[bliink]

I saw a man walk out of the theatre with a golden cross the size of my index, middle, and ring digits combined. Said cross had a solid gold jesus haging two inches off its face. Irony, eh?

He must'a thought you some crazy sucka! all this religion jibba jabba!

 

[Solaris]

Damnit I hate religious schools as well.

I hate religion in schools.
There is no way schools should be aloud to not allow students to attend becuase of their religion. So ****ing what if I'm not a catholic? Does that mean that this public school, funded by my parents should be unaccessable to me?

I'm really not sure what to make of this whole Muslim girls wanting to wear Hijabs or whatever they're called in schools, it seems for once the racists may have a point. Atm they get away with wearing the headscarfs with there school uniform. But wait, it's not their religion that demands they must wear it, it's they're culture. And I know plenty of girls who call themselves Muslim and don't wear such apperall. So what's going on? Surely chavism is a culture, so why can't my classrom chavs come to scool in trainers with their socks tucked in and some tracksuits? Why can't they even wear a cap? What if I call myself a ****ing jedi, seiks can come to school with a knife, or a pretend knife in most cases. So do I get to come in in a ****ing robe, with a lightsaber? No. Even though I put down jedi on the ****ign census, I am a ****ing jedi yet I am denied the same rights as a Muslim - To wear religious clothing.

Now this is what I say:

Everyone wears the same clothes.
A variety of clothes are optional, all embedded with the school logo ect. A uniform, but with variety.
No Uniform, maybe everyone has to still dress formal, so it's suits and thoose formal cothes asians wear, then everybodys happy.

I want my lightsabe, grrr.

 

[Laivasse]

I saw a man walk out of the theatre with a golden cross the size of my index, middle, and ring digits combined. Said cross had a solid gold jesus haging two inches off its face. Irony, eh?

He must'a thought you some crazy sucka! all this religion jibba jabba!

lewltastic

 

[Double_Blade]

I had to agree with you, Solaris

Poso is the most notable place that had suffered religious fights christians vs. muslims. Blasting each other because of religions and christians fights back with pistols blah blah blah....

I don't tolerate religious fights. My hopes is that everyone from different religions will work together and also, together, we can fight evil, secluding ourselves because we are different makes good fight weak.

 

[99.vikram]

The way I see it, much of the hostility and mistrust in the world are caused essentially by religious clashes. Solution? Forget religion.

Unfortunately this is easier said than done. I have found that when I'm neck deep in trouble I pray to God, even though I usually believe that he is a construct of my imagination and nobody can help me but me.

The conclusion I came to is, humans need a God to believe in but alas, there isn't one.

 

[Raziaar]

Meh, fair point. Although this does depend on which Christians' teachings are considered true.

I know many, many Christians who insist on living through actions, and scorn those who think it's passable to simply be mentally accepting. In fact, I view the latter to be a pathetic cop-out.

Dude... just shut up. You don't know what you're talking about and you're just trolling. Just because someone doesn't give away all their possessions and live poorer than they already are, doesn't mean they aren't doing anything. Just as I am not telling you all the things I do.

 

[Double_Blade]

Dude... just shut up. You don't know what you're talking about and you're just trolling. Just because someone doesn't give away all their possessions and live poorer than they already are, doesn't mean they aren't doing anything. Just as I am not telling you all the things I do.

I had to agree. Im not going to say anything about this "Ludah", even if you say anything bad about him, he is still doesn't bothered to put his brain back on his head.

Anyway, the article is a must read for christians, especially if they are offended but sometimes truth hurts.

 

[99.vikram]

I sometimes find these "convert to Christianity and you will be happier" documentaries on TV. After seeing those I've become kind of unaccepting of the religion.

 

[Double_Blade]

I sometimes find these "convert to Christianity and you will be happier" documentaries on TV. After seeing those I've become kind of unaccepting of the religion.

I agree... I would say, let nature takes it's course, don't force religion into people's throats as this will put one at risk.

I converted to christianity because I decided to find true meaning of life. And so, I did.... I really did find the true meaning of life is to have a happy life regardless you are rich or poor. That is what Christ had taught me and I am thankful to him.

 

[Raziaar]

The world would be a much nicer place if religious people didn't force their religions down the throats of those who weren't interested, and if those non-religious folk didn't do the exact same thing by forcing their views of a world with lack of religion down our throats. I don't like being prejudiced against just because i'm religious... it's not like i'm prejudiced against other people, so why prejudice against me?

 

[Double_Blade]

The world would be a much nicer place if religious people didn't force their religions down the throats of those who weren't interested, and if those non-religious folk didn't do the exact same thing by forcing their views of a world with lack of religion down our throats. I don't like being prejudiced against just because i'm religious... it's not like i'm prejudiced against other people, so why prejudice against me?

I agree...

The most notable and worst christian website who forces christianity into people and criticizes people just because of their interests in movies and games,

www.crossroad.to

I respect other people religions (except for Scientology, sorry.) and you should respect mine too, just as I respected your religion.

 

[Raziaar]

I agree...

The most notable and worst christian website who forces christianity into people and criticizes people just because of their interests in movies and games,

Blegh. That's another thing that pisses me off. People of my own religion criticizing what I do for my entertainment. It's not like i'm harming people, i'm not going out there sexing people up. I'm just playing video games... and even if there are demons and monsters in there... it's not affecting my religion. I'm not being 'converted' to devil worship... so just stop bitching about it and let me have my fun, please...

 

[99.vikram]

'Scientology'. It's the name that puts me off.

 

[CptStern]

the funny thing is that some of them see themselves as persecuted:

[quote="Worthy" news]More Christians died for their faith in the twentieth century than at any other time in history, says Christian Solidarity International. Global reports indicate that over 150,000 Christians were martyred last year, chiefly outside of the United States. However, statistics are changing: persecution of Christians is on the increase in the United States. What's happening to bring about this change?

According to some experts a pattern is emerging reminiscent of Jewish persecution in post war Germany. "Isolation of, and discrimination against Christians is growing almost geometrically" says Don McAlvany in The Midnight Herald. "This is the way it started in Germany against the Jews. As they became more isolated and marginalized by the Nazi propaganda machine, as popular hatred and prejudice against the Jews increased among the German people, wholesale persecution followed. Could this be where the growing anti-Christian consensus in America is taking us?"[/quote]

pure fearmongering alarmist rhetoric; evoke the ghost of the holocaust then follow it up with examples of how christians are persecuted:


[quote="Worthy" news] Tolerance of anti-Christian attitudes in the United States is escalating. Recently, a woman in Houston, Texas was ordered by local police to stop handing out gospel tracts to children who knocked on her door during Halloween. Officers informed her that such activity is illegal (not true), and that she would be arrested if she continued[/quote]

oh dear GOD! the inhumanity!!!

[quote="Worthy" news]In Madison, Wisconsin, the Freedom from Religion Foundation distributes anti-Christian pamphlets to public school children entitled, "We Can Be Good Without God."[/quote]

omg! they'll be firing up the coal burners soon and rounding up christians for free showers next it's a sign!


http://www.worthynews.com/christian-persecution.html

now this is just one group amongst many but it's pretty obvious many feel persecuted ..I think as the article on the first page pointed out, much of it they perpetuate themselves


it's funny because they're on the offensive, yet when attacked they cry the victem


of course I'm sure I'll have someone point to the fact that I'm generalising, and to an extent yes ..but I think the real target here are not christians, but rather those who would use their religion to control society

 

[Raziaar]

The only persecution against all religions at this point, is people trying to stifle them. There are people, even on these forums who have expressed desire to rid the world of religion... It only takes a madman to try some more drastic measures, in the future.

 

[CptStern]

yes I'm one of those (not the madman) ...but it's not because I dont like religion ..it's because it's just irritating, they stick their bloody noses in all aspects of society, regardless if they effect them or not (take religion in public schools ...they have a choice to go to christian schools but that's not enough, they must change all educational institutions to their POV). Ok that's not entirely true ...I'm prefectly willing to allow people to do whatever the hell they want (within reason) ...however when you have religious groups influencing government, society in detrimental ways people from all walks of life need to stand up for individual freedoms and rights

 

[Raziaar]

yes I'm one of those (not the madman) ...but it's not because I dont like religion ..it's because it's just irritating, they stick their bloody noses in all aspects of society, regardless if they effect them or not (take religion in public schools ...they have a choice to go to christian schools but that's not enough, they must change all educational institutions to their POV). Ok that's not entirely true ...I'm prefectly willing to allow people to do whatever the hell they want (within reason) ...however when you have religious groups influencing government, society in detrimental ways people from all walks of life need to stand up for individual freedoms and rights

I agree with you that religions should be seperate from government, and have no place within.

 

[Sulkdodds]

There is a fundamental problem with the way many religions are organised and that is this:

They believe theirs is the one true faith.
Therefore, anybody claiming otherwise (by, for example, not forcing everybody to be an Examplist) is persecuting their religion.

This can be taken to insane extremes.

 

[Ludah]

Dude... just shut up. You don't know what you're talking about and you're just trolling. Just because someone doesn't give away all their possessions and live poorer than they already are, doesn't mean they aren't doing anything. Just as I am not telling you all the things I do.

LOL

You start your post by telling me to shut up, and you accuse me of trolling?

Well, go figure. Anything that's considered a remote attack on a faith is met with rage. Why don't you pray up some fire and brimstone to hail on me as well?

Bah, whatever. Raziaar, I was not accusing you of anything. I was saying that I find there are Christians who believe simply being mentally prepared to obey God's will is a hollow cop-out. You know them, surely. The 700 Club-ish man in his mansion reaping in millions who says "Sure, I'd give this all up in a heartbeat if God told me to", but lies safe and secure in the knowledge that such a God will most likely never ask him to do such a thing.
"Real" Christians (if there even is such a thing) act without some go-call from God. They prove themselves to be Christian (with compassion and tolerance, hopefully). The man above does not.

I had to agree. Im not going to say anything about this "Ludah", even if you say anything bad about him, he is still doesn't bothered to put his brain back on his head.

And YOU are in no position to lecture me about trolling or anything for that matter, considering you are the one who flew off the handle at me in the other topic.

But go ahead. Get touchy.

 

[spookymooky]

I think the biggest problem with Christianity I've encountered (mainly Catholocism) is that the church tends to replace God.

 

[Ome_Vince]

I think the biggest problem some christians, muslims and Atheists have is that they dont show "tollerance" towards other people's beliefs.
They all seem focussed on destroying/converting/rediculing each other.
This goes for fanatical people, and like i mentioned before you have those in all sizes, including people that hate each other because they are from a different soccer-team...
And for the majority of normal man who dont give a shit, the world goes on.

 

[Remus]

I think the biggest problem some christians, muslims and Atheists have is that they dont show "tollerance" towards other people's beliefs.
They all seem focussed on destroying/converting/rediculing each other.
This goes for fanatical people, and like i mentioned before you have those in all sizes, including people that hate each other because they are from a different soccer-team...
And for the majority of normal man who dont give a shit, the world goes on.

Well I for one belong in that later category of people that don't give a shit . I don't care what other people believe, they can believe in in Roman gods for all I care, but when they look at me like a freak just because I don't think like them, well that just pisses me off:angry: .

 

[Double_Blade]

Blegh. That's another thing that pisses me off. People of my own religion criticizing what I do for my entertainment. It's not like i'm harming people, i'm not going out there sexing people up. I'm just playing video games... and even if there are demons and monsters in there... it's not affecting my religion. I'm not being 'converted' to devil worship... so just stop bitching about it and let me have my fun, please...

I agree... Especially even worse when your parents are fanaticial christians (I hope not). If your parents are fanaticial christians, then be prepared to face up the pain you are going through, your fanaticial christians parents will surely force you to go to church, don't allow you to go out with friends to watch movies and even worse, you will lose out all your friends when your parents keeps on forbidding you to go out and play with them.

I am a christian and I love playing video games but when people of my religion criticizes me as devil worshipper, then beware! I can prone to violence if someone pisses me off when they call me a devil worshipper playing video games.

And finally, if those fanaticial christians think that they are a true worshipper of God, then prove it by doing good deeds as Jesus had taught us, instead of sitting on a bench like a old man raving and ranting above the sky and criticizing people's interests.

 

[dream431ca]

I can relate to that article. I've seen some christans that make the entire christian religon look bad. That's what the author is talking about; the christans that constantly say "your going to hell!" or "God is going to strike you down!". To me that's complete bullshit, and I'm a christian. To bad a few bad apples has to affect the entire religon and make the christian religon look bad to a lot of people around the world. I don't consider those kind of people part of the christian religon.

 

[CptStern]

I can relate to that article. I've seen some christans that make the entire christian religon look bad. That's what the author is talking about; the christans that constantly say "your going to hell!" or "God is going to strike you down!". To me that's complete bullshit, and I'm a christian. To bad a few bad apples has to affect the entire religon and make the christian religon look bad to a lot of people around the world. I don't consider those kind of people part of the christian religon.

hmmm I wonder where I've seen that before