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panaticus

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Just admit it, your sitting there thinking this game is going to be just as good and entertaining as HL1 was back in the day, but it won't.

The chances of HL2 beeing just as revolutionary a gaming experience as HL1 was back in 1998 are extremely small.

How many sequels of true classics actually achieved the success of there predecessor? It can't be many.

So try to take a realistic look at this game, if it's anything more then great, if it's not you won't end up beeing disappointed.

Try to look at Half Life 2 as a next Metal Gear Solid 2.

We all expected that to be just as good as the previous MGS but the story sucked and you ended up playing with some naked blond dude, eventhough the graphics were great and the game on it's own without beeing in the shadow of it's predecessor, wasn't that bad.

It's healthier to not expect so much from this game and it's probably the only way you can manage not to come here every day and build up so much hype inside your head that whatever HL2 will end up beeing, your STILL going to end up beeing disappointed.

The mods will never be able to achieve the succes and popularity of HL1 mods, it's just asking for the impossible.
When HL1 mods were created we were in the middle of the internet boom, everyone was buying a PC to email and surf the web.
These people are not upgrading, they still play counterstrike and are happy and will probably continue to play counterstrike untill the end of times.
So far fewer people will show interest in HL2 mods, less players = less sales= shorter life span for HL2 as a whole.
 
You actually compared MGS2 to HL2, lol...

*COUGH* next generation graphics and game engine *COUGH*
 
A game is something to keep yourself occupied with if you have nothing else in your life to fill your spare time. As long as you remember that and don't get hyped about it, then it's all good.
 
Well said panaticus, there's a lot of truth behind all that.

Games are indeed just a form of entertainment. Very rarely should you treat a game as an artform worthy of being analysed to the core.

Often it's just shoot, run, press button, oo the story wow a bad guy, shoot run etc.:sniper:

Sometimes, very rarely, you become totally immersed and it becomes far more than just a form of entertainment. Knights of the old Republic --> oh yeah.

Before KOTOR it was Diablo 2. And before D2 it was HL.

From my experience i've found very few games that have that effect. It's a good idea not to expect a momentously amazing game. Just think of it as another first person shooter with....with physics!! :dozey:
 
panaticus said:
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I'd like to introduce two of my friends - "too" and "you're"! They are very helpful in sentence construction.
 
HL2 wont be all its made up to be, to the little kid expecting to much. for me? well im not expecting much just another FPS but obviously if its better it will be very welcomed.
 
I think its a bit too late for all that ;)
however I agree.
IM hoping its somewhat decent and isnt comparable to the
quake1 to quake2 fiasco
(I loved quake1, hated quake2)
 
panaticus said:
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The HL2 mod community is already the largest for a game that hasn't been released, more people have access to broadband than when HL1 was released, HL2 is more mod friendly than HL1, LOTR:ROTK succeded my espectations so why can't HL2 be to game sequals as ROTK is to film sequals, everybodys hype died a bit when it was delayed and leaked so expectations will be lower therefor easier to beat and less likely to ruin the game for the player, worrying about a game being crap is just stupid, I'v been disapointed enough times that I am now used to it.

It would have been best if I found out about HL2 a week before it's release and that I never saw one screen shot from it, but you can't have everything. It would also be best if i just treated it like another FPS but... it's not.
 
no chance in hell that this game is ever going to suck..
 
Well, why not just wait til the game comes out before commenting on how good it will be. Am I just insane or something, or is that really just an unimaginable concept?
 
How can you comment on how good a game will be when you have it.
 
So are we supposed to just close down the forums and never talk about the game then when its out enjoy it?


ahahahahah no.


There will be some who let the hype get to them but the vast majority have a more mature view of Hl2 and wont be drawn into the megga hype then utter dissapointment phase.
 
well, i started playing half-life a couple of weeks after i saw the e3 vids to hl2, and i kinda have to admint all my exspectations were based on that semi-long vid. and yes, to say that hl1 has "surpassed" my exspectations is a definate understatement
 
"So are we supposed to just close down the forums and never talk about the game then when its out enjoy it?


ahahahahah no."


Let me join in laughing at your ridiculous paraphrasing ;)
 
lol, he comes into a Half-Life 2 Forum, (which just so happens to have Half-Life 2 at the center) and says the game will suck, when I know for a fact he:

1) Has Not Played the Game
2) He Has No More Knowledge Than The Rest Of Us
3) He Compared It To....MGS2.....Ewww
 
I always wanted to play MGS2, but it appears I shouldn't bother :-/
 
Six Three said:
lol, he comes into a Half-Life 2 Forum, (which just so happens to have Half-Life 2 at the center) and says the game will suck, when I know for a fact he:

1) Has Not Played the Game
2) He Has No More Knowledge Than The Rest Of Us
3) He Compared It To....MGS2.....Ewww
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He Compared It To....MGS2.....Ewww

Thanks for supporting my opinion :)
 
Well it's not like Valve hasn't worked really hard to meet up with our expectations , is it ?

It's gonna be one helluva game , that's why it'll be cool. But some days my expectations for it get lowered and I hope the game will be released at one of those days.
 
Just like every other game in history. There will be people in this very forum the day after it comes out saying things to the effect... "this game sucks" or "we waited all this time for this?!?"

I'm definitely not saying I'll be one of those, I reserve judgement until I actually play. But if past games are any guide, not everyone will be happy. Then we'll all have to deal with the people who become so against it, they spend their whole day talking about how bad it is and ask people why they like it etc. Then the fanbois fire back, "if you don't like it why do you post here." Continuous cycle if you ask me.

Can anyone come up with one game in the past where this hasn't happened?
 
That this game is gonna suck is out of the question, it won't. But it could very well disappoint you, highly likely if you expect too much of it. I've seen people who seem to think Source is some kind of real life simulator where you can destroy and do whatever you want. To those people the game will be disappointing. But if you just expect a nice fps, a nice story and just general quality gameplay, you won't be disappointed. Don't expect the next revolution in gaming, the game that makes you quit your job/school and cooks your dinner and wipes your ass, because than I can guarantee you it will disappoint you.
 
someones a bit silly, he isnt comparing msg2 to hl2, hes saying that he thinks itll be like mgs2 was to mgs good looking but not as revoulutionary as the original was. i dont agree as hl2 WILL be the best game ever to date. and if he was comparing them then god help us all ;)
 
halflife 2 WILL meet most people's expectations...

Some people set their expectations so high that no matter what, there will be a complaint (example: this game looks too good, the story was done too well). But most of us should be floored.....this valve crew keeps lots and lots of secrets and really has not told us squat about the story, just some of the technical aspects of it. They have been keeping low profile for a reason, trust me they will succeed. Story is what made the last one and I hope story is what makes this one, plus some extra purks like graphics and gameplay.


oh and I thought quake 2 was better then 1.....which is contrary to what somebody else said, but A good game is all about story to me at least in a single player atmosphere....and quake 1 was all technology and no story what so ever.....now people may enjo it better because of multiplayer, but thats a whole different set of computer users......multiplayer and singleplayer don't mix
 
im hoping that what ive seen is a tid bit of what is to be expected of the final release. I love the story. and playing through that is just worth it, to see what happens to gordon next... :)... expectations too high for the game playablity maybe yes. expectations too high for the depth of story . no i dont think so because we dont know what to expect there :) . thats what makes HL good. really. the set up of everything. the playing experiance just binds it all together
 
Six Three said:
lol, he comes into a Half-Life 2 Forum, (which just so happens to have Half-Life 2 at the center) and says the game will suck, when I know for a fact he:

1) Has Not Played the Game
2) He Has No More Knowledge Than The Rest Of Us
3) He Compared It To....MGS2.....Ewww
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I'm not saying it will suck, i'm saying that if you expect it to be something that it's not then you will end up being disappointed.

If you expect hl2 to be just as enjoyable as hl1 was back in the day, you might end up being disappointed because the chances of it reaching that level are just small.
Hl1 was probably the greatest game ever released, how can you expect Valve to reach that again with hl2? It's probably unfair to even think it ever could.

MGS2 was also hyped everyone expected it to be just as classic as MGS was , but it ended up disappointing everyone because it just didn't reach that level.
Even though if expectations of the game weren't based on MGS it would have been a pretty good game.

I also know it's asking the impossible , and if anything i was talking to myself trying to not let this game get so hyped up inside my own head with expectations that are just unrealistic to expect.

It will have great graphics it will be a enjoyable FPS it will have some great mods ,but it probably won't be hl1.
If it is you won't hear me complaining, but if it's not im not going to be disappointed either.
 
Ya know what? All this talk about Half Life makes me remember how awsome it was. I think I'm gonna whip out HL and Opposing Force and finish both of em. i need to relieve and take my mind back to Black Mesa!

True I agree with many people in here. Source is not the "Ultimate" engine, its just a damn good one and I'm just expecting really polished gameplay with a sweet stoyline. (I bet the story will be good because we know nothing about it!)

If all else fails, just take a look at the Valve team...they seem very proud of the work they've done over the past 5 years and I bet their just as excited as us to see it on store shelves.
 
Well, the MGS series is my favorite - even above Half-Life. I thought MGS2 was a great game, although not quite as good as the original (for it's time, in a direct comparision MGS2 is better). MGS1 was of course much more original and had a better story. Although MGS2 had, IMO, the best gameplay of any action game to date - the story was lacking compared to the original. It got too conspiracy theory and sci fi for my tastes.

Honestly, I don't see how HL2 could have worse gameplay than the original and we all know it will have better graphics. Story isn't as important to HL as it is to MGS, and I'm sure they won't totally mess it up. I respect what you're saying about not getting overhyped, but I really do believe this game will surpass the original.

And just as a pre-emptive strike to the PC fanboys who are going to pitch a hissy fit because someone likes a console game - shut the f**k up.
 
panaticus said:
I'm not saying it will suck, i'm saying that if you expect it to be something that it's not then you will end up being disappointed.

If you expect hl2 to be just as enjoyable as hl1 was back in the day, you might end up being disappointed because the chances of it reaching that level are just small.
Hl1 was probably the greatest game ever released, how can you expect Valve to reach that again with hl2? It's probably unfair to even think it ever could.
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i said this exact thing right after the stolen build fiasco and i was generally replied to by fans that were so hyped about the game that it was like a balloon.. filled with air to the max.. and just one needle or another round of air pumping and it would burst in ur face..

i think what panaticus is saying is important to keep in mind.. if we are expecting a HL1 like experience where we were blown away.. pple are probably in for a disappointment..

also.. other games like MP2, Far Cry and soon to be released titles all have some of the tech that most of us are looking forward to in HL2.. whether u wanna admit it or not, that does take a little bit away from seeing it in action in HL2 its almost like "seen that, done that, NEXT!" scenerio.. i hope thats not how some of the tech thats going to be featured in HL2 will be rememberd..


if u just take it as around good fps, a squeal to a good game but not comparing it to anything else, ur not setting urself up for a disappointment.
 
panaticus said:
I'm not saying it will suck, i'm saying that if you expect it to be something that it's not then you will end up being disappointed.

If you expect hl2 to be just as enjoyable as hl1 was back in the day, you might end up being disappointed because the chances of it reaching that level are just small.
Hl1 was probably the greatest game ever released, how can you expect Valve to reach that again with hl2? It's probably unfair to even think it ever could.

MGS2 was also hyped everyone expected it to be just as classic as MGS was , but it ended up disappointing everyone because it just didn't reach that level.
Even though if expectations of the game weren't based on MGS it would have been a pretty good game.

I also know it's asking the impossible , and if anything i was talking to myself trying to not let this game get so hyped up inside my own head with expectations that are just unrealistic to expect.

It will have great graphics it will be a enjoyable FPS it will have some great mods ,but it probably won't be hl1.
If it is you won't hear me complaining, but if it's not im not going to be disappointed either.
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What I got out of your first post, is that it will suck. Please, stop judging games before they hit store shelves. It doesnt really matter about the past, and about past sequals. Yes, some games have been over hyped, but what we're (Or atleast me) are ecited about, is what we KNOW for a FACT that source can achieve. Saying it will suck is just stupid. It doesnt make any sense, HL is one of my favorite games of all time, and I personally think H-L2 will aslo. And, to say that the mods wont be as great is also stupid. How do you know? Have you plaed them? How do you know they wont surrpass the ones before. Yes, CS is a classic, as is TFC and DoD. But, to say they wont be equally great is wrong, you dont know that for a fact. I hate it when random ppl decide to come in here and state negative comments, no matter if they can support them or not. But, what you have just said, makes no sense, nor does it matter. As, you dont know. We know just as much about the game as you, we've heard the same questions and answers, and have seen the same videos.
 
Dr. Freeman said:
i said this exact thing right after the stolen build fiasco and i was generally replied to by fans that were so hyped about the game that it was like a balloon.. filled with air to the max.. and just one needle or another round of air pumping and it would burst in ur face..

i think what panaticus is saying is important to keep in mind.. if we are expecting a HL1 like experience where we were blown away.. pple are probably in for a disappointment..

also.. other games like MP2, Far Cry and soon to be released titles all have some of the tech that most of us are looking forward to in HL2.. whether u wanna admit it or not, that does take a little bit away from seeing it in action in HL2 its almost like "seen that, done that, NEXT!" scenerio.. i hope thats not how some of the tech thats going to be featured in HL2 will be rememberd..


if u just take it as around good fps, a squeal to a good game but not comparing it to anything else, ur not setting urself up for a disappointment.
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Its not about the damn graphics people!!!! Its about the story!!
graphics is all people seem to judge a game these days...pretty sad....im gonna guess most of those people are pretty young... under 20...story rules enough said
 
The think that I like best about Half-Life is the "feel", no other game gives you that "in the world" feel that the Half-Life engine seems to. Most other games feel like you're controlling a puppet in a virtual world through a complex system of levers and pulleys that have been coated in treacle. Playing HL just feels natural however. It looks to me like HL2 has kept that feel, and that's good enough for me.

People in this thread keep saying 'if you're looking to be blown away you'll be disappointed'. Frankly, a spruced up version of HL1 with physics and better graphics would be enough to blow me away, and HL2 is going to be a LOT more than that!
 
panaticus said:
Just admit it, your sitting there thinking this game is going to be just as good and entertaining as HL1 was back in the day, but it won't.

The chances of HL2 beeing just as revolutionary a gaming experience as HL1 was back in 1998 are extremely small.

How many sequels of true classics actually achieved the success of there predecessor? It can't be many.

So try to take a realistic look at this game, if it's anything more then great, if it's not you won't end up beeing disappointed.

Try to look at Half Life 2 as a next Metal Gear Solid 2.

We all expected that to be just as good as the previous MGS but the story sucked and you ended up playing with some naked blond dude, eventhough the graphics were great and the game on it's own without beeing in the shadow of it's predecessor, wasn't that bad.

It's healthier to not expect so much from this game and it's probably the only way you can manage not to come here every day and build up so much hype inside your head that whatever HL2 will end up beeing, your STILL going to end up beeing disappointed.

The mods will never be able to achieve the succes and popularity of HL1 mods, it's just asking for the impossible.
When HL1 mods were created we were in the middle of the internet boom, everyone was buying a PC to email and surf the web.
These people are not upgrading, they still play counterstrike and are happy and will probably continue to play counterstrike untill the end of times.
So far fewer people will show interest in HL2 mods, less players = less sales= shorter life span for HL2 as a whole.
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Wow, are you trying to make people upset or are you just very pesimistic?
 
nothing wrong with pessimism. at least you're never dissapointed becuase the situation either meets your expectations or it exceeds them :)
 
im getting the feelin that people are just generally starting to repeat themselves. gosh... its been a long wait. ive heard all of this atleast twice , maybe three times before
 
frances_farmer said:
nothing wrong with pessimism. at least you're never dissapointed becuase the situation either meets your expectations or it exceeds them :)
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People who think like this make me want to ****ing puke.
 
*whistling* always look on the bright side of life!...alwayls look on the briiight side of your life! duim dum dum dum dum dum....Oh dear, it's stuck in my head
 
I'm going to direct your attention to a quote made by Shigeru Miyamoto. I know many of you are biased towards Nintendo, but Shigeru is an experienced man when it comes to making games. While I do not know the exactness of the quote it goes something like this:

"A delayed game will eventually come out, a bad game is bad forever"

If HL2 is destined to suck, then it will suck no matter how long they spend developing it. But I think rest assured when a company like VALVe spends 5 years developing new technology to create an immersive game experience, we will all come out winners.
 
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