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TOOL NEWSLETTER,
DECEMBER, 2008 e.v.
Recently I received a rather lengthy e-mail from President-elect Barack Obama, and although I won't post it here in its entirety, the gist of it concerned a matter that he personally felt needed urgent attention. With the "turning of the page", meaning the coming new year, the new administration, and the new positive attitude sweeping the nation, one of the things high on his list of priorities as part of "the changes America needs" is to engage in serious dialogue in 2009 with Tool's content manager, or "a high level administrator of the Tool websites" to see about changing the format of the newsletters so that they would include more news about the band itself as opposed to the various subjects of interest to the four members and/or their close circle of friends. Now, as you might well imagine, with all that's going on in the world today, I was a bit flummoxed as to his concerns about the website, not to mention how Barack obtained my personal e-mail address in the first place! And although I could have responded that these are tough decisions, and that I'd have to think about it - being that I am the decider around here, to be perfectly honest, in that we are indeed "turning a page", I have to admit that I whole heartedly agree with Obama. Perhaps to highlight the gravity of the situation, the e-mail he sent ended with "we have a lot of work to do" in bold-faced type, to which I sent my immediate reply stating that I would be more than happy to comply with his request, offering then a warning about any possible "Hochstetters" out there.

TOOL

http://www.toolband.com/news/index.html
 
Is this a joke or does it mean Obama is a Tool fan? You shouldn't toy with my emotions like this.
 
Knowing Tool, this is just them changing their newsletters and creating some intrigue. It's just Tool being Tool.
 
In related news, Adam from Tool will be contributing to the new ISIS album out later this year. Justin did some bass work for ISIS a few times in the past and it sounded great, so I'm looking forward to hearing what a guitarist will do with them this time.

/leaves thread
 
Tool are hit and miss for me. I like them, but I don't see what the hype about Lateralus, or any of their albums for that matter, really is. An enjoyable band all the same.
 
TheAntipop said:
In related news, Adam from Tool will be contributing to the new ISIS album out later this year. Justin did some bass work for ISIS a few times in the past and it sounded great, so I'm looking forward to hearing what a guitarist will do with them this time.

/leaves thread
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Heh, I always thought their bassists had a similar style. Iiiiiinteresting.
 
Yeah, Jeff and Justin are pretty similar players. Tool were a huge influence to Isis - all members - so it's not surprising they've all worked together a bit. I'd go as far to say it's quite difficult to tell when Justin was playing bass for Isis on the track Altered Course as it sounds so much like Jeff.

****ing love it. All of it. Argrhrhrhg what a band.
 
Bad^Hat said:
Yeah, sure, and Maynard's a christian.
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Ding. The dude that writes news on the Tool website has always been weird and has no problem with spreading strange and/or ridiculous fabrications. At the least hopefully he's talking about just making their newsletter better.

Also, I ****ing love Tool. One of the best / most synergistic groups in history IMO. Seeing them live was a religious experience for me.
 
Tool do put on hell of a show, I'll give you that. I saw them headline the Download main stage in... 06 it must of been. It had been a ridiculously warm day of exams and I arrived at Download just in time to catch Deftones pull of a blinding set in the afternoon heat, then Tool took to the stage just as the sun was setting behind the gigantic stage set, so it was partially eclipsed against the framework. It was one of those evenings where there wasn't a cloud to be seen and everything just felt wonderfull.

They had the two big side screens showing Adam's photography and visuals that he makes for all the videos and whatnot. I think I liked them the most, but you need Tool's music to accompany them, which was there obviously, so it's all relative.

What a show.
 
The show I went to was in a big indoor sports complex arena type place and about halfway through their set they paused for 20 minutes with a weird Aenima-segue-esque staticy noise on loop (quite loud) while they filled the whole place up with smoke. The lasers after that were mindblowing, combined with the excellent video accompaniments to the songs. After NIN I'd say they have the most intense live show, in terms of total immersion, flawless band and kickass light displays.

Plus, they're artists. I hate waiting on them to come out with new albums, but everything they do is golden IMO. They have such an intense sonic identity and they work with one another perfectly, far above the extent of most groups. I think that doing psychedelics and playing together a lot for years has something to do with that, since Phish is another example of a band that, however you feel about the music, is undeniably synergistic to the extent that they seem like a single entity. And they do lots of LSD too.
 
Oh, indeed, I can tell they put alot of effort into their work as a group of musicians. They create a sound that gives them their identity which is most certainly a unique aural experience. I just can't really get much out of them myself. I do really enjoy them, but sometimes I feel that what I'm hearing isn't as special as it's often spelled out to be. But hey, horses for courses as I always say.

My main gripe with Tool is that I don't often find their music very consistent, which is what I expect from such creatively driven forces. Others may, and that's fair enough, but I often find myself going into certain parts of an album then elsewhere instead of being able to actually sit down with Lateralus and enjoy it start to finish. It's a good album, they just didn't quite hit my expectations when I started listening to them based off of the postive press they gained with each and every release.
 
tool

this is were tool get in the phase were they kick off another album and release there tour dates sooo its gonna be a sweet year :bounce:
 
TheAntipop said:
My main gripe with Tool is that I don't often find their music very consistent, which is what I expect from such creatively driven forces. Others may, and that's fair enough, but I often find myself going into certain parts of an album then elsewhere instead of being able to actually sit down with Lateralus and enjoy it start to finish. It's a good album, they just didn't quite hit my expectations when I started listening to them based off of the postive press they gained with each and every release.
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I have the same sort of thing, with 10,000 Days for example. Some really great songs on there, but it seems to go through too many "dips" that break the flow of it a bit. Like, Vicarious is the best opening track/single they could have picked. It's straight-forward, heavy, it draws you in. Jambi is a good follow-up. But then putting Wings for Marie and 10,000 Days right after that just completely grinds it all to a halt. Not to mention they're right before the Pot which is another really energetic song that instantly grabs your attention, which is followed by... chanting? Okay.

But then I seem to remember a Tool fanatic telling me that their albums weren't meant to be listened to in the official order, and you had to make your own tracklist based on some obscure mathematical formula or something, so... whatever.
 
Gosh, I hated the Pot, the worst song of 10,000days in my opinion. I have no gripes about Lateralus though, way more consistent than 10,000 days which I find myself skipping a few songs then and when rather than listen to the whole album through.

Is Tool going to release anything new soon?, they took 5 years for one album, so I guess its a long wait from now.

As for Isis, I need to check out more of their stuff..ive only heard Panopticon and Oceanic, I'm not sure if they have any albums. Not fully grown into these yet, but the post rock with the screaming kind of grabs me in a few songs.
 
Isis have four full lengths; Celestial, Oceanic, Panopticon and In The Absence of Truth, aswell as an unnamed fifth studio album. They've got a whole bunch of EP's and live albums, too, all of which are equally stunning. I think the best place to start is In The Absence of Truth as it's pretty mellow compared to past releases, though I use the word slightly - it's still incredibly crushing towards the end, just not as fuzzy as, say, Celestial.
 
Bad^Hat said:
I have the same sort of thing, with 10,000 Days for example. Some really great songs on there, but it seems to go through too many "dips" that break the flow of it a bit. Like, Vicarious is the best opening track/single they could have picked. It's straight-forward, heavy, it draws you in. Jambi is a good follow-up. But then putting Wings for Marie and 10,000 Days right after that just completely grinds it all to a halt. Not to mention they're right before the Pot which is another really energetic song that instantly grabs your attention, which is followed by... chanting? Okay.

But then I seem to remember a Tool fanatic telling me that their albums weren't meant to be listened to in the official order, and you had to make your own tracklist based on some obscure mathematical formula or something, so... whatever.
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Haha, it took me a while to figure it out. Then I realised that the chanting is part of a suite of tracks, just like Wings/10,000 Days and Intension/Right in Two/Viginti Tres. Lipan Conjuring is a religious drug ceremony, where the "character" of the songs takes LSD (likely, given Lost Keys' reference to Hofmann), Mescaline (has spiritual Native American roots, so it fits the chanting), or a different drug. Lost Keys (Blame Hofmann) is the doctors finding the character lost in his drug trip. Rosetta Stoned is the nonsensical recounting of the character's drug trip.

Also, the alternate tracklists work really well and give the album really unique flows. Kind of like that "01 and 10" playlist for Radiohead's OK Computer and In Rainbows.
 
The alternate tracklist for Lateralus is amazing. It flows great and makes you feel good inside.

That is, if you believe in Sacred Geometry.
 
For the longest time I thought Sacred Geometry was an absolute load of honky, but I've been reading up on something called "quantum configurations", and now Sacred Geometry seems like it could be the high-level pattern representation of quantum configurations, i.e. a plausible concept.

What alternate Lateralus tracklist did you use?
 
The book "Nothing in this book is true, but its exactly the way things are" covers that a bit. I started reading the book, then I got into Tool and found out its on their recommended reading list.

The one that follows the Fibonacci sequence.

Parabol, Parabola, Schism, Ticks and Leeches, Mantra, Lateralus, Faaip De Oaid, The Grudge, Triad, Eon Blue Apocalypse, Reflection, The Patient, Disposition.

How many are there?
 
I believe there are three. The Fibonacci Sequence, The Holy Gift, and something else. I think the one I listened to was The Holy Gift, but it's been a while.
 
I wouldn't say that a song about a mysterious man on an acid trip would fit into HL2.
 
Noobs that I don't like:

+nofreeman

I'm not implying you're the only one, the list is just far too long to type out
 
All of you 07s are still noobs in my eyes :p
 
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