U.S. Drug Policy: Archiac, Destructive and Embarssing

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Does it ever bug any U.S. residents here that we spend tax dollars on imprisoning small time pot dealers, breaking families? Or that we spend money on the DEA -- who ultimately end up doing things like arming terrorists, burning fields of drugs and contributing to Anti-U.S. sentiment and political/military turmoil. Why continue to pay for this rubbish? Who is okaying this time after time, and what can our generation do to stop it? Get informed. Drugs are a part of life, they will always be around, no matter who you are or where you live.

The way drug education is handled, all drugs are lumped together -- kids learn about Cannabis as a gateway drug, and as if it should be categorized with Heroin or Cocaine. It creates a discrepancy and hypocrisy amongst young peoples (those who smoke get prejudiced and begin to try to fulfill a stereotype more easily, those who don't begin to consider casual pot smokers demonic, tentacled heroin addicts from outer space).

It is my wide held belief that the majority of young people in this country who receive an education and aren't socially inept know that full legalization, regulation and taxation of Marijuana would not only benefit the economic well being of the nation but also foster a more realistic way of approaching substances. Emphasis on overall health and moderation instead of demonizing, and thus encouraging kids to, in turn, rebel through excessive substance abuse.

I truly hope that Obama and his cabinet (and excuse me if this bit of ranting sounds over the top) continues with his Senate record of voting and speaking primarily in favor of cutting back the DEA, improving drug education and relaxing national policy on the incrimination of small time pot dealers and smokers. (pot should not ever be lumped with powerful opiates or amphetamines, nor should those who smoke be labeled as problematic drug addicts or criminals.) I also realize this would require a great deal of congressional and grass roots support, which I don't think would be impossible to achieve if enough people speak up.

Those who preach against Marijuana seem to often be products of an unjust and imposed doctrine that you're somehow a drug addict if you touch the dreaded peace pipe (thanks church, thanks DARE, thanks conservative shithead parents). It's a bit ironic, because often it's those that receive the unfair education end up being potheads and drunkards themselves because they saw it as being such a rebellious act while growing up (due to irresponsible drug education).


tl:dr - Drug education and enforcement policy in the United States, particularly pertaining to Marijuana, is embarrassing, unethical, money wasting and hurts both internal and global relations, promoting violence, manipulation and masked imperialism, warfare, broken families and economic turbulence.

U.S. drug policy leads to an increase in dangerous substance abusers, harmful stereotypes, and global hostilities.

Why not adopt a system like those of which several European countries have embraced for decades -- one that focuses on the rehabilitation and reintegration of recovered addicts into society?

disclaimer: this is a thread which is reserved for intelligent discussion of drug policy, laws, and attitudes. If this makes you uncomfortable, or if you're unable to meaningful contribute to discussion or debate, please press the back button on your browser. This isn't a thread to brag about your personal drug experience nor is it a place to condemn all recreational drug users and spark an ethics debate in place of a political/logistical one. We don't care if you think Marijuana is for evil pot smoking hippies, we also sure as hell don't care about that fat blunt you smoked before that sick party you attended last week, so keep those things to yourself.
 
politics section! That was just on impulse to long post, now that I've read it; politics section!
 
No. This discussion isn't merely political, it's supposed to be viewed and considered by those who are interested not just in the governmental and authoritative problems, but also the sociological, psychological and emotional/personal reactions (or reflections) as well. I posted this is off-topic for a reason.
 
Well, yes. There's a whole area of the law and government policy which turns victimless crimes into vast horror stories with millions of participants.
 
Let's start with the government's rationale for maintaining the DEA and the war on drugs, including their justification for how they categorize various drugs. I'm sure it's on record somewhere (and someone can probably recite it from memory, saving me the two seconds to search for it on Google).
 
Also agreed on all points. If only the government would see it like that though.
 
Any war we start we seriously **** up both our side and theirs. maybe obama can change that however
 
This is yet another example of "Our Country Sucks".

I agree with you to the extent that we **** up pretty much every war we get involved in and the threat ends up being us.

Also, almost every genocide that's ever happened we didn't get involved in until it was either almost or all the way over.

We did almost nothing to stop and entire nation of people getting slaughtered in, oh, for example, Rwanda. 1/3 of the population was killed. Sure, we ended the Holocaust, but we were a little late to the party anyway. If we'd intervened earlier, we probably could have stopped all the killing before it happened.

Also, the thought that our drug policies are pushing out our war tactics makes us suck even more.
 
This is yet another example of "Our Country Sucks".

I agree with you to the extent that we **** up pretty much every war we get involved in and the threat ends up being us.

Also, almost every genocide that's ever happened we didn't get involved in until it was either almost or all the way over.

We did almost nothing to stop and entire nation of people getting slaughtered in, oh, for example, Rwanda. 1/3 of the population was killed. Sure, we ended the Holocaust, but we were a little late to the party anyway. If we'd intervened earlier, we probably could have stopped all the killing before it happened.

Also, the thought that our drug policies are pushing out our war tactics makes us suck even more.

well heres my whole theory on that...we could have helped stopped Hitler way before he even tried to get all of Europe. we let everyone get tired and weak and pretty much came out on top because we waited for the right moment. also Pearl Harbor was known to happen. we let bad things happen so that we can have a strategic advantage...which is why we still have the largest military around. we may not have 5 million footsoldiers like China but our firepower is still the largest after all these years.

also we like to fight dirty, vietnam: napalm iraq: white phosphorous and i have no doubt in the next decade the military will be much more robotic. our wars are always called upon by freedom, but it never ends up that way. just ask the 100,000+ dead Iraqi people that
 
I think most people feel this way, but we are too apathetic to do anything about it. I sure as **** am.
 
Agreed. I have a story, though.

In my highschool, there is this kid who'se parents got angry for catching him high.
Well, his mom went on to the kids facebook and found the names of every drug dealer, and user in the city. So now the kid has death threats on him, and hasn't showed up to school in 2 months. Methinks he hightailed and left. Anyways, the moral of the story is...
...I don't know, but I feel bad for the kid and his families. Now one of my friends is being watched by the police, but i really don't think he's that much of a friend, so I think he got his just desserts.
 
Just go and watch Pineapple Express, you'll laugh and have a good time everyone
 
It's interesting to read how the replies differ based on the home country of the given poster.

Very interesting indeed!
 
Why don't we just legalise it. Then instead of paying to stop people from taking it, smuggling it and getting drug dealer rich, we get money of them though tax. And alot of these drugs are no worse than Cigarettes and Alcohol. If some one is determined to **** up their life with drugs then they are going to get it one way or another it's futile trying to stop them.
 
i prefer illegalizing smoking in general in addition to MJ.
 
I like dope.

Tis safer and feels better (this actually depends on who smokes it), and less harmful (you have to consume your body weight or some shit to die.. Basically smoke an amount that literally can't be smoked), and cheaper then alcohol.

Kinda stupid how alcohol is legal, yet pot is illegal even knowing what I just said.
 
I'm worried Dog, are you trying to say that you've smoked Marijuana?
 
1. Dope

People who do not do drugs call Marajuanna Dope.
People who do Marajuanna call Heroin Dope.
Word has also been used to describe how good somthing is.

So either no, he doesnt smoke MJ, or yes he does, but he also sometimes does heroin.
 
lol, everyone always yells at me for calling it dope.

My friends girlfriend actually slapped me (we were all stoned and drunk) for calling it dope.

Well guess what - Dopedy dope dope.
 
If it were up to me, I'd ban every single narcotic in the ****ing world, including tobacco.
 
Which is why your from Korea.

What? You guys and your elitism.
 
I don't care for drugs at all, but I can see the appeal in them.
 
I just saw a commercial for arthritis drug, and it said there's a possibility for cancer as a "side effect" :|
 
I never understand those commercials, The list of side-effects are worse then the illness like 90% of the time.
 
If they banned tobacco they could legalise MJ to use with vaporisers and I'd be quite happy. Otherwise it will only encourage people to cancer themselves all up in it. Tobacco is far worse than cannabis, it's a pity most potheads roll it with baccy.
 
This just in: U.S. policies are irrational, ineffective, and illegitimate.
 
lol, everyone always yells at me for calling it dope.

My friends girlfriend actually slapped me (we were all stoned and drunk) for calling it dope.

Well guess what - Dopedy dope dope.
You're a dope.
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It should come to no surprise that the US government does not give a shit about an individual's personal health. Drug enforcement is all about the tax dollars here.
 
It should come to no surprise that the US government does not give a shit about an individual's personal health. Drug enforcement is all about the tax dollars here.

???
If they legalized it they could tax it...
 
???
If they legalized it they could tax it...
How can the government tax something that's so easy to produce? Marijuana can be grown in a closet or a bathtub for crying out loud, and drugs like meth and crack can easily be made by anyone. Not that I'd know how. :upstare:
 
Ok WHAT THE SHIT
asthma medicine that "may cause asthma related death"
 
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