Unreal creator : "PCs are good for anything, just not games?

[CptStern]

so says the company that couldnt make a successful unreal game for consoles if they're lives depended on it

TG Daily: Broken down, that means today?s mainstream PCs aren?t suitable for gaming?

Sweeney: Exactly. PCs are good for anything, just not games.

http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/36390/118/

what he's saying is that since most pcs bought at best buy have integrated graphics they cant run games with high demands as what they used to able to do ..well no shit sherlock, those pcs are not gaming pcs, they're for doing homework and looking at porn, that's why they have integrated graphics ..and your company is partly to blame ..look at UT3 ..same goddam gameplay as UT2004 with steep system specs ..no wonder it's a sales failure ..have you learned nothing from WoW and TF2? see the problem as I see it is that Epic is all about tech and has zero respect for design ..look to Valve, they'll show you a thing or two about using design to eliviate the disparity between high and low end pcs

 

[stemot]

Seems to be alot of devs slagging off the PC gaming scene lately, which is usually after their bug ridden piece of shit games didn`t sell very well.

 

[Kadayi]

No one gives a shit what the UT guys think tbh, save game journalists, and even they are pretty underwhelmed by the crap Epic have shoved out the door recently. The highlight at GDC for Epic was showing off a rolling cube of meat that looked like it was coated in plastic apparently...

The 1up guys think it's a case of certain name developers wanting to get that first 'call' in for the 'death of the PC', as if with the insane money to be made from even casual games and MMOs that's ever going to happen.

 

[StardogChampion]

UT3 was the biggest waste of money in 07 for me. The graphics aren't even nice. I've barely even touched the editor.

I hope the Red Orchestra team put the engine to good use with RO2.

 

[Gray Fox]

Lets look what Mark Rein has to say, because I just know this forum ,especially Samon, loves him.

http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/2008...alliance-means-for-gamers-disarray-dismissed/

Also I disagree that epic isn't good in design,
I think their games look amazing from an artistic point of view,
I love the Gothic baroque style in their games.

And I loved the unreal engine tech demo of this years gdc

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/30824.html

 

[DEATHMASTER]

look at UT3 ..same goddam gameplay as UT2004

Sweeney's a dumba$$ for saying what he said, but you lose all credibility for this comment.

 

[VirusType2]

Gears of War is NOT what PC gamers want.

How the **** would you know, and who told you that you could speak bitch?

That was my most anticipated game for that year. ****ing nobody, and speaking like the spokesman. That really makes me want to kick teeth.

 

[Mutley]

I think he means that the average consumers PC isn't good for games because the average consumers PC is much less powerful than the latest gen console.

 

[CptStern]

Sweeney's a dumba$$ for saying what he said, but you lose all credibility for this comment.

even on geo-political topics? :O


you have to read between the lines ..ut3 is an evolutionary version of ut2004? no? it cant be anything except evolutionary as it adds to the core gameplay of the UT franchise, no? therefore funamentally it's the same with more stuff added on. the biggest complaint is that it doesnt elevate the franchise into new territory, there's just more stuff

Also I disagree that epic isn't good in design,
I think their games look amazing from an artistic point of view,
I love the Gothic baroque style in their games.

imho their character models are derivative

and they can only do baroque for so long before it starts looking the same ..gears was nice at first but the drab enviroments eventually became ...even more drab

 

[Kadayi]

Not the cube of meat...No!!!!!

 

[Gray Fox]

The meat cube was great, I loved how it and the other fluids reacted.
Also why the **** don't you play TF2 anymore you son of a bitch.

 

[DEATH eVADER]

UT3 was the biggest waste of money in 07 for me. The graphics aren't even nice. I've barely even touched the editor.

I hope the Red Orchestra team put the engine to good use with RO2.

The graphical technology isn't the problem as a whole, its just there lighting is aweful

But the thing is its not the PC itself that is aweful, its the OS that games are run on. If you made a stripped down OS that only did games (dualboot option) you would get most out of your comp. Its just nobody has catched on to the idea.

 

[Korgoth]

I admit i didn't read the entire article his quote was taken from, but it did say mainstream PCs, do you think he may have been talking about the gimped set ups you buy at walmarts, and best buys that cost 5 or 600 dollars but don't come with anything in the way of graphics cards or ram? If thats the case then, I agree, mainstream PCs suck for gaming lol

 

[DEATHMASTER]

you have to read between the lines ..ut3 is an evolutionary version of ut2004?

It's not, weapons have been tweaked, gravity, powerups etc. I wouldn't call that precisely evolution because a lot of players do still prefer UT2k4, or I suppose one thing that truely evolved is the graphics. Yes it is a changed version of the fundamental killfest that is UT, it can't be changed from something like that without it being a completely different game, in which case it wouldn't be UT anymore. But the gameplay itself is vastly different from UT2004. You would know that if you played either one enough.

 

[Eejit]

I admit i didn't read the entire article his quote was taken from, but it did say mainstream PCs, do you think he may have been talking about the gimped set ups you buy at walmarts, and best buys that cost 5 or 600 dollars but don't come with anything in the way of graphics cards or ram? If thats the case then, I agree, mainstream PCs suck for gaming lol

That's exactly what he was saying.
He frequently mentioned intel's integrated graphics solution.

 

[Asuka]

Lets look what Mark Rein has to say, because I just know this forum ,especially Samon, loves him.

http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/2008...alliance-means-for-gamers-disarray-dismissed/

Also I disagree that epic isn't good in design,
I think their games look amazing from an artistic point of view,
I love the Gothic baroque style in their games.

And I loved the unreal engine tech demo of this years gdc

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/30824.html

Mark Rein is a idiot!

 

[CptStern]

It's not, weapons have been tweaked, gravity, powerups etc. I wouldn't call that precisely evolution because a lot of players do still prefer UT2k4, or I suppose one thing that truely evolved is the graphics. Yes it is a changed version of the fundamental killfest that is UT, it can't be changed from something like that without it being a completely different game, in which case it wouldn't be UT anymore. But the gameplay itself is vastly different from UT2004. You would know that if you played either one enough.

I've played both ..please explain how they're vastly different in light of what you say here:

It's not, weapons have been tweaked, gravity, powerups etc. I wouldn't call that precisely evolution because a lot of players do still prefer UT2k4 ...

Yes it is a changed version of the fundamental killfest that is UT, it can't be changed from something like that without it being a completely different game, in which case it wouldn't be UT anymore.

 

[Krynn72]

I played the demo of UT3 for awhile and tbh it seemed just like UT2004. Yeah, Im sure if you look at the numbers, and the exact changes they made, it would look like its quite different, but it still feels and plays like UT2004.

 

[Kadayi]

The meat cube was great, I loved how it and the other fluids reacted.
Also why the **** don't you play TF2 anymore you son of a bitch.

I liked the fluid effects, but they just look a bit plasticly, plus I'd rather see AI advancement, and rendered complexity (not hundreds of people with the same model/skin) that lighting effects.

As for TF2. I seriously OD'd on it (50+ hrs as Soldier, let alone heavy etc). I peaked way too early, so I'm waiting for all the new stuff to arrive (the gold rush map sounds fun) before I return to it.

 

[redruM]

And I loved the unreal engine tech demo of this years gdc

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/30824.html

Wow, soft body physics + destructible environments look incredible, they are great improvements for realism in the gaming industry

 

[Kyorisu]

I've played both ..please explain how they're vastly different in light of what you say here:

May not vastly different and whilst I don't like UT3 graphically because half the levels look like arse in my opinion, but gameplay wise UT3 > UT2K4. I came second in a local 1v1 tourney recently

 

[CyberPitz]

He's an idiot, imho.

 

[DEATHMASTER]

I've played both ..please explain how they're vastly different in light of what you say here:

The gameplay is...it doesn't get much more basic than that. I can only conclude that you haven't experienced the games the way I have. You have to change you tactics for the same weapons depending on situation, I find the Bio-rifle to be a lot more easier to kill with in UT3 in most situation than in UT2k4 because it seems to be easier to hit people with it (kinda like it latches on even if you were a bit off, and not including lag cause it happens in offline too). Many examples of things that change is what gives the gameplay, and they're different from UT2k4.

 

[<RJMC>]

I allways considered games of epic games more focused on graphics that everything else

gears of wars is a example, the only thing that left me reminding of it was the graphics,the game was not that great after all and it felt like you didnt get the whole thing